Wait, so profiles have to be PG?

I thought player profiles on SecondLife didn't have to be PG... Is this a new rule?

I've always been under the impression that they have to be PG because they may be seen by everyone, not just people hanging out in mature sims. I've seen many profiles that definately weren't PG with nude photos in them for example, but since it never bothered me one way or the other, I never really paid any attention to the rule.

I think the idea is that every part of the Second Life service, inworld or on the website, that is not explicitly designated M is PG.

I think this has been the stated policy at least as far back as December of 2003.

I've absolutely nothing against that, I was just curious since I've also seen handfuls of mature profiles, and I never thought it against any rules

LL's entire concept of M vs PG seems to consist of the presence or absence of naughty bits.

At least as far as the forums are concerned; I don't know about in game.

coco

As a Rule Ma Chere, ANYTHING that is up for General Display Must conform to PG standards. This Includes Items or signage on Mature sims that can be seen from neighboring PG sims AND Your Profile, which can be accessed by anyone, anywhere, anytime.
I play in an Alternative Lifestyle, and have Never had any difficulty conforming to this standard. I see no reason why it should be a problem for anyone else to do so.

Angel.

Just like the rest of America

What is non-PG language?

Are we talking the infamous F-Bomb? I see that on the forums all the time!

Profiles must be read with parental guidance.



"Mom, can I look at Willow Zander's profile please?"

Damn you, now I am going to have to go put something MATURE there to live up to this post.

You'll get yours!

Sorry, but I prefer European profiles to Fundy American ones. There should be more sex and nude pictures redily available. It's healthier and doesn't create raving psychopaths that get put in the White House.

I am European (well I prefer to be called English, but that's not the point).

I have no sex or 'mature' stuff on my profile, my land, my property, my business interests, or anywhere else.

Why is it such a problem to some people that many of us do NOT want to be bombarded with porn everywhere we turn in SL? After all, if you are claiming that you want to have the freedom to have such stuff around, why are you unable to respect our choice not to?

The rule exists. Until it changes, comply with it or suffer the consequences. It's that simple.

I would much prefer LL tighten up on the rules - or at least enforce them - than loosen them.

Lewis

Hey you forgot your closing statement moonbat screetch

Because the Internet is for porn.

My profile used to be a long joke about how I was the head of a vast criminal empire consisting of pimping, gambling, etc. that rivaled Al Capone. Someone, no doubt, could have found something offensive in there. Feminists could have complained about the pimping reference, for example, or the Sim Mafia could have disliked how I lightly treat the subject of organized crime, etc.

When you start pandering to people who find "offense," you enter dangerous ground because someone could find something offensive about just about anything.

It's a lot more mature to say, "I'm an adult and I have no desire to read this profile anymore" than it is to tattle like a 5 year old.

I assume this is applys to your RL as well, which explains an awful lot

and its rather immature to say 'stop whining, if you don like it don read it'.

I've never reported a profile for profanity etc but if i do see one i will tell the owner that by putting it in there, they are opening themselves up to someone else doin it.

In general the notion that 'you are an adult what to you care' is very much burned out of someone by the time they have hit their mid 20's, tho obviously individual mileage may vary

Was this really necessary?

To be honest, that is actually none of your business. Let's just leave it at the fact that I know where things belong, and how to handle them.

And to add to Luciftias' comment, no, it wasn't necessary. It's just the old thought that anyone who happens to have some set of standards in their life or takes a moral standpoint on an issue that a lot of people disagree with, simply "isn't getting enough", disregarding the clear proof in today's world that sex creates more problems than it solves. Step away from your computer for a while and have a look at reality for a change.

Lewis

actually youbunch of twits its called snide sarcastic humor which aperently is lost on certain un-named tight asses

Actually no that's not the problem. The problem is that you are an adult and you reside on the adult grid and you have the ability to turn your eyes away if you find something offensive. No one asked you to look that profile and if it happens to be offensive to you no one asked you to continue to read it. Yet, despite the fact that what offends you is a very personal choice and may not offend other people around you, you want a rule that will prevent people from doing what they choose. Furthermore said rule will result in more LL resources being used and directed away from fixing stuff that needs to be fixed, banning people that actually are griefing, and doing actual useful work.

I just read a post by you in another thread where you bitched about LL not fixing things. Maybe one of the reasons they aren't is they are too busy running around being the morality police for you. Because, as we all well know, SL would be just a whole lot better if we all lived according to your standards.

Furthermore, I find it reprehensible that you think that reporting someone for having something offensive in their profile -- thereby netting them a possible suspension and ruining their day and just generally spreading ill will -- is a more palatable solution for you than simply closing the offending profile and moving on.

I think you may be the one needing to step away from the computer to have a look at reality.

Depends on who complains. Some of my friends had R-rated nudes in their profile but ARs were filed and LL made them take them down.

Others who were never AR'd still have their pics up.

Personally, I don't mind nude shots, but I wouldn't like X-raded profiles, to be honest... but sadly the difference is lost on both ends of the spectrum. I don't see why profiles can't be at least PG-13, seems like a fair balance.

I do not understand why all "strong" words would be profanity or all nudity porn.

It seems to me people do not see the difference. One can say very rude things to another using pnly PG words, as one can use "M" words praising another.

Go to a nudist colony and call them pornstars and you will offend them deeply.

Nudity should not offend anyone, but i see how porn might upset some hipocrits.

Why? The fact is, we have a choice. We signed up for SL as adults and we ought to know that in any given place on the web where adults gather there is bound to be mature content that may be offensive to someone.



True. It should be "you can close your eyes and/or have a working neck, what do you care?" We are adults. We have a right to choose what content we permit our eyes to view and what content we are opposed to. I don't like the sex clubs in SL, but rather than seethe and complain about it, I avoid going to such places, don't bother to look at their adverts and live in a controlled community where such things are not going to open.

yup, in a way, you have every 'right' to put whatver you want in your profile, and then the world, and other people, have every right to censure and rebuke you for it.

Free speech does not mean free get out of jail free card, it entails plenty of very real social consequences. You have a right to say whatever you choose and express yourself however you want, and everyone else has a right to think less of you for it.