Teleport This

Well, it might be a little different from what you said.

My concern is that people not be able to instantly appear at any X,Y location on the grid at will. Even if I enable my parcel as a teleport location, I would want people to appear in my driveway, not my kitchen. I want to be able to control that. I am not comfortable with the idea that somebody could look at our now highly detailed map, click on any spot of interest, and instantly appear there. And I think the default status for any parcel of land should be that P2P teleports are not permitted. It should be explicitly enabled by the parcel owner. It would also be helpful if P2P telehubs were marked on the map.

No, but it makes it a lot more difficult. Unrestricted P2P teleporting makes it virtually impossible for anybody to find a place where even a modicum of privacy is available. And I really don't see this as a government imposed limitation. Instantly teleporting to any location, while technically possible, has no real life analog - and thank God for that!

P2P teleporting to me is a shorthand, it would of course need to not allow people to teleport into someone's VR bedroom while the owner is doing something private, need to have ban lists and allow lists and a bunch of qualifications.

Perhaps just having a public telehub in every mainland, not owned by one person sim would be sufficient.

As an answer to your first question, my opinion is yes. A security script that keeps people from getting to their location is abuse. Security scripts should have a timer, to keep flyers from incorrectly being teleported on their way to a target past that land. I see scripts blocking a location from access as being no different then the known abuse of building walls around a location to block it off.

Also push scripts that are not on the person's land are definately abuse. Pushing someone from neighboring land is a form of assault with a push script. If I can report someone pushing me with an attachment then I can report their object pushing me while I'm on my land.

Now it is best to talk to your neighbor first to see if it was unintentional. From what I understand, the Lindens only warn a person to stop their actions at first anyway. Often people will move the offending script or change its settings to not be obtrusive anymore after a simple request, but if they don't fix the problem, there is nothing wrong with reporting them to the Lindens.

OMG I am laughing hard here with is remark not because the way he wrote it. But i do undertsand your concern 1000m! thats nuts! I feel for you.

if you look at it, you will se that we have already P2P teleporting , its called "offer teleport"

and why is it working like this, its very simple, you need the person where you want to teleport to actually AGREE that you materialise near you

seems totally logic.

get more friends to tp you, work too

Personally, and this might seem slightly kooky, but if the Lindens won't allow us to teleport where we want to (that's available to teleport to - addresing privacy issues) then they should have their ability to do exactly that removed

Let them rely on offer teleport and telehubs

wow thats a month full.but never the less a good point. they are the law and problem solvers in the game and should be allowed to tp any where freely . But why keep the ability tolindens only? why not make the system less complex and allow all to use it.Well maybe with in time it well happen when is anotehr story.

My idea was pretty tongue-in-cheek to be honest. I just thought it might highlight to them how painful it is to get around the world if they didn't have the ability. They might not even realise because they have P2P themselves.

Maybe let's start with a Linden 'No P2P Teleporting Week' and see how they hold up

Great idea. Force feed them their own dog food

My problem with the teleports is they can affect people who aren't on your land at all. The teleport does fail because they don't have permission to teleport people off of *other* parcels. But the victim still gets a very annoying dialog box every 5 seconds which they must click on before they can continue.

I was at a store today trying to look at the goods, but there was a teleporter 'Radar' on some neighboring land that made it impossible to stay there.

What people say they want and whether they'd be happy with the consequences of having it are two very different things. Without forcing you to travel, you're much less likely to serendipitously see something interesting or explore new things outside of your expectations. Instant point-to-point teleportation makes the world less interesting.



In FL, you never pay for gas or a cab or a bus to drive to a store? You just instantly appear at the store and then instantly bamf back home? Or do they send a car for you, gratis? If so, you're not shopping where I shop.

I wouldn't mind being able to instantly teleport to any land you own, as it's a little repetitive to fly the 400m from telehub to my testing lot, but I can live without it, too.

Here's an opposing view to that - 99.9% of the world actually isn't that interesting and I'd like to get to the interesting parts without having to fly for ages past the crud. As I said earlier I'd be much more likely to go and see something interesting, or explore somewhere I've heard about or found through Find if I could get there straight away. I bet people might be more inclined to go to events as well.



OK, I don't quite know how to put this without coming across as rude, but that argument is on such pointless, shaky ground it really doesn't count. Can you jump up in the air and fly in real life? Can you take your wardrobe around with you in real life? Can you dive without breathing apparatus (OK, Big Blue fans, we'll ignore the obvious here)? Can you build airplanes or construct a building in an hour? Can you.... can you.... can you.... (the list is endless).

You see, this isn't real life, so why should not being able to do that in real life have any bearing over the argument as to whether we should be able to do it in Second Life. I can't see the thought process there.

Usually when I am working, I'm not chilling with friends and I stilll need to go to my different lands. Maybe I should befriend a poor newb and have him be my teleport mule. I can send him ahead to waste his time travelling and have him tp me when he getes there. Oh, if I should want to go purchase something, do most stores now staff up in order to provide teleport service for their potential customers?

I would think that the biggest waste of time for event givers has to be being the person designated to give tp's.

Oooh, I like this idea. Jobs for new players to earn some extra cash by being teleport mules - you've just invented a new industry in Second Life!

I shouldn't have to ask for some idiot's permission to travel somewhere I want to go. My reasons for going to a place are my own, and I rarely travel with anyone else.

Eh...

Make P2P teleport privileges part of the Premium Account


It's deliciously well rounded. Benefits:

- No different than a website selling its "No Ads" membership.
- Nets LL more Cash
- Provides the solution bundled with the problem
- User base is mostly made up of Basic Accounts; impact is minimal on telehub advertisers.


It's pretty much this way already. If users are mostly concerned about their homes, and have their Home Location set there, it follows that they're usually spending time teleporting back home.

Furthermore, Premium Accounts have a far higher chance to be located near/at a telehub, due to land purchasing privs.

Pretty simple concept.

I shouldn't have to impose on my friends. Then again, I'm the kind of person who doesn't expect my friends to cater to me much less strangers.

Well, glad we agree then.

Yes we do, I was just adding on to your thought.

Btw, adding an "l" to the end of your first name would make it very appropo for laggy times in SL.

This is so elegant, I posted it here as a formal feature proposal.

I've had all my votes backing a teleport proposal since day 1 and will be going in to switch over to this. Without commenting on the usefulness of the proposal system, I'll go with the symbolic guesture for now.

I didn't add it to the votes page. Pinpoint Teleporting (Prop 89) is already fifth on the voting list sorted by number of votes and number of voters. I just posted this in the Feature Suggestions forum for further, hopefully serious, discussion.

Sorry...I don`t really have anything to add...I do agree with khamon....the freedoms are being exploited by the steaming piles of griefers and our illustrious hosts have yet to provide a necessary (did I say necessary?? I meant :absolutely needed and we can no longer live without)fix to the griefing and tresspassing upon My rights and of course the "teleport to a random telehub in a given sim" problem........

but seriously...."blingtard with a twitch"......that`s classic...omfg I am still laughing....it says it so well!!!!!!!!

WellI took as suck hun But as a few said why should`nt the let it be free since its in the system already. They can always do work around in the provitcy thingy. Well they need the ability to fly to any point, but why not let EVERYONE HAVE IT

Sorry to hear your frustrations... Although I have one of those scripts and love it.
Mine is on a plat 700m in the sky.. I use it to create, and get away... but the way I see it is, if you are up 700m+ you are just being nosey anyways.
But I understand how you feel, they shouldn't be on grounded plots, it can make it very hard to get where you wanted to go.