Just when I thought I had seen it all

"BUT HERES THE KILLER... WATCH IT WHILE DANCING ON OUR HOT NEW FREE MONEY DANCE JAM PADS!! GET PAID 3L PER 10 MINUTES USING OUR HOT DANCE PADS RIGHT CLICK ON IT AND BOOM!! YOUR LOOKING FINE DANCING THE DAY AND NIGHT AWAY AND GETTING PAID FOR IT!!"

Now you can get paid to DANCE????? WTF?

I guess it's more entertaining than getting paid to sit down in a chair.

To get the traffic number up, some are willing to pay to keep people on their land. The higher the traffic numbers, the higher up on the search list a parcel will be.

I don't get out much in SL, so I'm a little confused about this whole business. It seems like people are paying small amounts of money for other people to sit, dance, etc on their land? I guess this is to generate dwell, which must pay out more than what they're spending on the "visitors"? Or is it something else?

The most confusing part to me is the amount involved. 3L for 10 minutes means 18L an hour. The current minimum wage in the U.S. is $5.15 an hour. Let's say you pay a bizarre amount of taxes, and only take home $3.35 an hour. Currently on the Lindex that would buy you 768L$. Which is the equivelant of about 42 hours of dancing on someone's pad. So I have to assume there's something I'm missing.

As long as it stays on that island, I'm happy

They wanna lag out their sim with every game imagineable and have games and have people dancing all over the place, fine. Please don't bring all that resource hogging to the main grid! I know, it's probably too late for that...
I was going somewhere with this, but my train of thought took off without me

I imagine people do this when they are away from the keyboard and let the numbers build up over time. In one day, if someone actively plays SL for 4 hours (and doesnt do anything else with their computer), that leaves 20 hours to camp out while they're away. That would be 360L which isn't bad for doing nothing.

You'll have to download a program to keep you connected to SL so you don't time-out and, of coarse, have your computer on and connected to the internet the whole time.

HP

Side note/question: I left SL running the other day when I went to take a nap, thinking I'd be logged out for inactivity. I came back about an hour and a half later and I was still logged in! I was sitting in a chair when I left the keyboard - does that somehow get around the auto-logout?

Of which the electricity costs alone would negate any partial benefit you would have by macroing your avatar on a fucking dance pad.

Fer God's sake, just use Lindex.

LF

I can see how it would seem like a better deal if you didn't actually have to be present. Still, L$360 is only $1.73. I know I'd rather have a part time job and a virtual fortune (by these standards), but I guess for other people it seems worth it.

One thing does strike me as weird though. I see a lot of references in the forums to the need for free accounts to act as consumers to drive the economy. And I'm guessing people with free accounts are the ones sitting and dancing all day for a trickle of L$. But they're being paid by people earning dwell, and Linden Lab is paying the dwell, and the non-free accounts are paying Linden Lab. In that case it would seem like nothing is being added to the economy.

...and higher on the list for the development bonus they will be as well.

1.73 us per hour LOL sorry but that is bs wages. there ought to be a law against paying slave wages...oh wait I think there is.

Lindex charges you 5 bucks a transaction extra for every time you take out money....If i have a CC with only 30 bucks to make my living in sl and they charge me that extra 5 how heck can i pay that off?

I'm the lazier sort, rather just be at that club being paid for being afk or just wait out week for stipend even now how cheap it is. But i got no reason for really caring to buy lots of crap, rather just buy unique stuff i like.

I mentioned this in another thread, and I think it's doable.

If you have a spare computer that can run SL, and run multiple instances of SL, you could keep 5 alts logged in 24/7 in these chairs. You would end up making $345.60 USD per month by doing this.

Pypo - It looks like Linden Lab only charges 30 cents to buy L$. The $5 fee is for receiving payments for L$ by a check or through PayPal. (I haven't used it myself but was curious and checked out the web page).

If land owners can get publicity and even developer awards from this in addition to dwell, I can see how it could pay off for them. But now I wonder if I am, as a paying subscriber, the one ultimately paying these people to dance AFK.

Doesn't address your specific question, but here's a thread about stopping the away time-out.

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Good point. But, some people keep their computers on 24/7 anyway.



It's still free money that you don't have to mess around with Lindex, credit cards, and PayPal to get. Do it everyday and you're making five times as much as premium stipend.

HP

Still can't afford it cadroe, hard nuff affording community college x.x No way want to pay for RL to fake cash, rather just mooch off you rich peoples ^_^ or wait till the item goes down in price

I finally caught up with my train of thought!! All these camping chairs and dance pads are for is to increase dwell. It's really quite embarrassing that we are in control (for the most part) of the game content and all people seem to be able to come up with to increase dwell are cheap ploys to get people to hang out on their land and not really DO anything.

For crying out loud, I know that I've spent more than my share of time at a Tringo board - but I like games like that, if I win or not, no big deal. It is nice to win - and I am DOING something when I'm playing. Not like I'm just camping my avvie in a chair and leaving it there to make a couple of Lindens. I don't like to sit in one place for too long and do NOTHING: I have not explored the entire map yet - there is MUCH more to SL than malls, casinos, night clubs, and x-ingo. Think I'm gonna go to Numbukulla - I haven't done that yet.

*bing*

Someone finally put it in to words. We, the paying subscribers, are the ones subsidizing the free accounts, the developer awards, and the camp chairs, dance pads, or whatever other trick someone comes up with.

I'm not sure what the answer is... I have ideas for builds that I could never realize on my little 1024m plot, but I can't spend the money for the land or for the tier to move up to larger builds.

There DOES need to be a way for "non-selling" developers to make money to offset their tier fees. I firmly believe that. While a camp chair may be an outright bribe to get people to spend time on your land, it just means the rest of the people who are "seriously playing" will have to step it up to find new ways to stay in the game.

Maybe. Maybe some of them are just using SL as a chat system, or waiting for a friend to come online. When I just got on and was exploring I found quite a bit of chatter at these dwell holes, and people coming and going all the time. I don't get it... there's better chat systems just for chat... but it takes all kinds.

Oh... and some of us with Basic accounts spend hundreds of US dollars on stuff other than land.

Oh I didn't mean that all or even most people on free accounts are getting money this way. For all I know most of them never do. I was just guessing that of the people who do find it worth their while, many of them are on free accounts, for obvious reasons.

It takes a decent computer with a good graphics card and a high speed internet connection to even participate in Second Life. But there are people in SL who think $0.38 an hour is worth their time. You wouldn't really spend your time and money on a video game if a few dollars was real money to you, not if you had to pay for a computer and rent and food. (I know - when I was spare changing in RL, I was also sleeping in my car and spending my money on bread ends and beans). So who would have a decent computer, a high speed internet connection, a place to sleep and food, but little spare money and would rather spend their time making pennies in a chat room than work a crap job? College students. Maybe it's just that there's a heck of a lot of college students in SL, and that's what makes the economy so weird. I mean you've got LL touting Anshe's six figure income to Fortune magazine, while other people are using high-end graphics cards to dance like robots for pennies an hour. That is an odd juxtaposition.

Just to point out that there are people who cannot, for one reason or another, find a RL job. Also, that doing this isn't necessarily instead of a RL job. If you can leave yourself sitting or dancing on your computer while earning your US$10/hour in your first life, what you're really doing is giving yourself raise to $11.73/hour, which most people would be happy about.

I constantly see the argument put forward that instead of earning L$s in game at a low hourly rate, people should just work (more) hours in RL and put that income through LindeX. However, not all of us are in the happy position of being able to say "I need another ten bucks right now - I think I'll work an extra hour today". RL work hours are limited, for the most part.

(Actually, spending time in a chat room rather than work a crap job? Many people would rather do that!)

Are you sure it's not your fancy new couches causing lag?

At the rate listed in this example of 3 L$ per 10 minutes (18 L$ per hour) and a decent exchange rate of 1000 L$ for $4 USD, you'd be making 7.2 cents an hour. It would take you 13.9 hours to make $1 USD (250L$). How much does it cost in utilities to keep your computer on for that long?

What couches are you talking about??

oh.. nm - you think i'm the alt of the person who made those fancy couches apparently.

Lisse - I think some people want to be in chat rooms more than others! And a bunch of them seem to be in my college physics class, if an obsession with text messaging is any indicator.

I see what you're saying about people not necessarily being able to work as much as they want or add hours at any time. I wonder about how many people that accounts for though.