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nimrod Yaffle

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08-09-2006 15:01

http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=113088

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Ginge Reymont

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08-09-2006 15:06

Lol, the sad thing is someone will see that as true art

I guess I was never born with that artistic sight.

Kalia Meiklejohn

You make me itch

Join date: 20 Jun 2006

Posts: 258

08-09-2006 15:08

Well art is subjective.
But hey, pay me half that and I'll fashion you something rather similar.
Any takers?

Phedre Aquitaine

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08-09-2006 15:11

*shakes her head*

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Hugsy Penguin

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08-09-2006 15:11

Is this an experiment to see how valuable something will get just because it is one of a kind?

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Lorelei Patel

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08-09-2006 15:12

Sweet! As soon as the grid reopens, I'm gonna buy it and hold onto it so I can reap a "huge prophit" on it later.

That sculpture has "passiion," man.

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Lillyana Hoffman

DJ/Designer/Flirt

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08-09-2006 15:12

This is a joke right? I could make that in 3 seconds! I call it a scam! Burn it, its not that creative nor thought out. Passion is lacking and for 35K he can BITE ME!

Richie Waves

Predictable

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08-09-2006 15:13

well its certainly reasonably priced. thats where starax went!! he's gotten an alt >.<

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JR Breed

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08-09-2006 15:14

I think he has the price wrong.. typo probably. He ment to type in 35L.

Aodhan McDunnough

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08-09-2006 15:14

Bleh.

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Lil Carducci

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08-09-2006 15:17

thats my design... wtf

Annah Zamboni

Banannah Annah

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08-09-2006 15:18

I'm gonna make a clone of it and sell it for $1 at newbie stores. I'm gonna be rich biatch!

ArchTx Edo

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08-09-2006 15:27

It may be rare and hard to replicate but that doesn't make it art. We could get into a long discussion about what is art, I am not interested in going there. But in my opinion (Bach. Fine Arts & Master of Architecture) this object has little artistic merit.

In addition his offer to sell you the original is false. He writes:

<<This original piece by xxxx xxxxx is a well thought out, well balanced piece of work, made from one prim. many have tried to copy it but none have suceeded in replicating the passiion and expression shown in this piece. be the ONLY PERSON in SL to own the original. RESELL it later for a huge prophit as it appreciates!>>

He could sell you the original directly in SL if he never took it into inventory. How will we ever know if he did or not?

He can't sell you the original thru SLExhange because in order to put the object into his SL box he had to take it into inventory. So the original is or was in his inventory, all he could put in his SL Exhange box is a copy. He may have deleted the original that was in his inventory, there is no way for us to know that. But what he is selling is still at best a copy.

I am not sure it is even possible for him to set the SLExhange box to sell you the copy that is in the box, it will probably keep that copy in the box and sell you a copy of it. So what the buyer is getting may be one more step removed away from the original.

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Erin Talamasca

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08-09-2006 15:27

From: someone

This original piece by Axel Truss is a well thought out, well balanced piece of work, made from one prim. many have tried to copy it but none have suceeded in replicating the passiion and expression shown in this piece.

be the ONLY PERSON in SL to own the original. RESELL it later for a huge prophit as it appreciates!

why wait?

Prims : 2

Ok, OK I *know* it has a base, but still.

But full marks for trying!

Oh yeah, also

From: someone

RESELL it later for a huge prophit

Do you think they mean a huge prophet? Cos I'd much rather have one of those in the first place. Think of the conversation starter it would be!

Dustin Pomeray

that airplane guy

Join date: 14 Sep 2005

Posts: 66

08-09-2006 15:28

Nobody said you had to buy it... lol
Just a guy who can't spell having some fun..who cares?

nimrod Yaffle

Cavemen are people too...

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08-09-2006 15:32

From: Dustin Pomeray

Nobody said you had to buy it... lol
Just a guy who can't spell having some fun..who cares?

It's lagging the sim.

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Robin Laffer

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08-09-2006 15:33

From: nimrod Yaffle

http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=113088

Atleast you cant complain, they've listed how many prims it uses

nimrod Yaffle

Cavemen are people too...

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08-09-2006 15:34

From: Robin Laffer

Atleast you cant complain, they've listed how many prims it uses

That guy was an ass. All I did was ask how many prims and he went ballistic.

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Erin Talamasca

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08-09-2006 15:35

From: ArchTx Edo

But in my opinion (Bach. Fine Arts & Master of Architecture) this object has little artistic merit.

And though you may have had a slightly different curriculum, with that degree you surely had it drilled into you that nobody is better 'qualified' to judge art than anybody else ;D The definition is within the viewer, no?

I am *not* trying to start the 'is this art?' argument because it makes me want to tear my eyes out! Just thought it was funny that you'd bring that out as a back-up when most such courses place heavy emphasis on tearing down the 'qualified critic'.

Anyway... I wouldn't buy it cos I think it's pretty ugly

That's as deep as I like to take it.

Iris Ophelia

Blue-Stocking Suffragette

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08-09-2006 15:37

My favourite part:

"... made from one prim."

then at the bottom "Prims : 2 "

Dustin Pomeray

that airplane guy

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Posts: 66

08-09-2006 15:38

hahaah

Wolfstanus Blackmun

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08-09-2006 15:39

Well thats modern art for ya.

Joannah Cramer

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08-09-2006 15:41

From: Iris Ophelia

My favourite part:

"... made from one prim."

then at the bottom "Prims : 2 "

Am guessing it's one prim for the "art" and the other is the stand for it ^^;

VolatileWhimsy Bu

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08-09-2006 15:45

uhmm... lets remember one mans trash is anothers treasure, and just cause you don't like it doesn't mean someone else wont

like splattering paint.. that i don't really get, i feel i could do that as well.. but their stuff is art and mine is just splattered paint..

VolatileWhimsy Bu

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08-09-2006 15:46

ahhhh... i see its that darn blue strawberry who started this!

Is this art, or a scam?
nimrod Yaffle Cavemen are people too... Join date: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 3,146	08-09-2006 15:01 http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=113088 _____________________ "People can cry much easier than they can change." -James Baldwin
Ginge Reymont Registered User Join date: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 190	08-09-2006 15:06 Lol, the sad thing is someone will see that as true art I guess I was never born with that artistic sight.
Kalia Meiklejohn You make me itch Join date: 20 Jun 2006 Posts: 258	08-09-2006 15:08 Well art is subjective. But hey, pay me half that and I'll fashion you something rather similar. Any takers?
Phedre Aquitaine I am the zombie queen Join date: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 1,157	08-09-2006 15:11 shakes her head _____________________ From: Billybob Goodliffe everyone loves phedre (excluding chickens), its in the TOS
Hugsy Penguin Sky Junkie Join date: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 851	08-09-2006 15:11 Is this an experiment to see how valuable something will get just because it is one of a kind? _____________________ -- Hugsy Penguin
Lorelei Patel was here Join date: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 1,940	08-09-2006 15:12 Sweet! As soon as the grid reopens, I'm gonna buy it and hold onto it so I can reap a "huge prophit" on it later. That sculpture has "passiion," man. _____________________ ============ Broadly offensive.
Lillyana Hoffman DJ/Designer/Flirt Join date: 24 Nov 2004 Posts: 166	08-09-2006 15:12 This is a joke right? I could make that in 3 seconds! I call it a scam! Burn it, its not that creative nor thought out. Passion is lacking and for 35K he can BITE ME!
Richie Waves Predictable Join date: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 1,424	08-09-2006 15:13 well its certainly reasonably priced. thats where starax went!! he's gotten an alt >.< _____________________ no u!
JR Breed Registered User Join date: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 49	08-09-2006 15:14 I think he has the price wrong.. typo probably. He ment to type in 35L.
Aodhan McDunnough Gearhead Join date: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 1,518	08-09-2006 15:14 Bleh. _____________________ Aodhan's Forge shop at slurl.com/secondlife/Rieul/95/213/107
Lil Carducci Registered User Join date: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 62	08-09-2006 15:17 thats my design... wtf
Annah Zamboni Banannah Annah Join date: 2 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,022	08-09-2006 15:18 I'm gonna make a clone of it and sell it for $1 at newbie stores. I'm gonna be rich biatch!
ArchTx Edo Mystic/Artist/Architect Join date: 13 Feb 2005 Posts: 1,993	08-09-2006 15:27 It may be rare and hard to replicate but that doesn't make it art. We could get into a long discussion about what is art, I am not interested in going there. But in my opinion (Bach. Fine Arts & Master of Architecture) this object has little artistic merit. In addition his offer to sell you the original is false. He writes: <<This original piece by xxxx xxxxx is a well thought out, well balanced piece of work, made from one prim. many have tried to copy it but none have suceeded in replicating the passiion and expression shown in this piece. be the ONLY PERSON in SL to own the original. RESELL it later for a huge prophit as it appreciates!>> He could sell you the original directly in SL if he never took it into inventory. How will we ever know if he did or not? He can't sell you the original thru SLExhange because in order to put the object into his SL box he had to take it into inventory. So the original is or was in his inventory, all he could put in his SL Exhange box is a copy. He may have deleted the original that was in his inventory, there is no way for us to know that. But what he is selling is still at best a copy. I am not sure it is even possible for him to set the SLExhange box to sell you the copy that is in the box, it will probably keep that copy in the box and sell you a copy of it. So what the buyer is getting may be one more step removed away from the original. _____________________ VRchitecture Model Homes at http://slurl.com/secondlife/Shona/60/220/30 http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&MerchantID=2240 http://shop.onrez.com/Archtx_Edo
Erin Talamasca Registered User Join date: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 617	08-09-2006 15:27 From: someone This original piece by Axel Truss is a well thought out, well balanced piece of work, made from one prim. many have tried to copy it but none have suceeded in replicating the passiion and expression shown in this piece. be the ONLY PERSON in SL to own the original. RESELL it later for a huge prophit as it appreciates! why wait? Prims : 2 Ok, OK I know it has a base, but still. But full marks for trying! Oh yeah, also From: someone RESELL it later for a huge prophit Do you think they mean a huge prophet? Cos I'd much rather have one of those in the first place. Think of the conversation starter it would be!
Dustin Pomeray that airplane guy Join date: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 66	08-09-2006 15:28 Nobody said you had to buy it... lol Just a guy who can't spell having some fun..who cares?
nimrod Yaffle Cavemen are people too... Join date: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 3,146	08-09-2006 15:32 From: Dustin Pomeray Nobody said you had to buy it... lol Just a guy who can't spell having some fun..who cares? It's lagging the sim. _____________________ "People can cry much easier than they can change." -James Baldwin
Robin Laffer Boogie mans daughter Join date: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 75	08-09-2006 15:33 From: nimrod Yaffle http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=113088 Atleast you cant complain, they've listed how many prims it uses
nimrod Yaffle Cavemen are people too... Join date: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 3,146	08-09-2006 15:34 From: Robin Laffer Atleast you cant complain, they've listed how many prims it uses That guy was an ass. All I did was ask how many prims and he went ballistic. _____________________ "People can cry much easier than they can change." -James Baldwin
Erin Talamasca Registered User Join date: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 617	08-09-2006 15:35 From: ArchTx Edo But in my opinion (Bach. Fine Arts & Master of Architecture) this object has little artistic merit. And though you may have had a slightly different curriculum, with that degree you surely had it drilled into you that nobody is better 'qualified' to judge art than anybody else ;D The definition is within the viewer, no? I am not trying to start the 'is this art?' argument because it makes me want to tear my eyes out! Just thought it was funny that you'd bring that out as a back-up when most such courses place heavy emphasis on tearing down the 'qualified critic'. Anyway... I wouldn't buy it cos I think it's pretty ugly That's as deep as I like to take it.
Iris Ophelia Blue-Stocking Suffragette Join date: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 138	08-09-2006 15:37 My favourite part: "... made from one prim." then at the bottom "Prims : 2 "
Dustin Pomeray that airplane guy Join date: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 66	08-09-2006 15:38 hahaah
Wolfstanus Blackmun Registered User Join date: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 46	08-09-2006 15:39 Well thats modern art for ya.
Joannah Cramer Registered User Join date: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 1,539	08-09-2006 15:41 From: Iris Ophelia My favourite part: "... made from one prim." then at the bottom "Prims : 2 " Am guessing it's one prim for the "art" and the other is the stand for it ^^;
VolatileWhimsy Bu Registered User Join date: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,492	08-09-2006 15:45 uhmm... lets remember one mans trash is anothers treasure, and just cause you don't like it doesn't mean someone else wont like splattering paint.. that i don't really get, i feel i could do that as well.. but their stuff is art and mine is just splattered paint..
VolatileWhimsy Bu Registered User Join date: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 1,492	08-09-2006 15:46 ahhhh... i see its that darn blue strawberry who started this!

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