Age Play should NOT be banned

Hi, my name is Beth Brokken, and all I do is design for the Child Avatar market.

I know some people are passing around a notecard in game to form a petiton to get rid of all forms of Ageplay, because a small few are having sexual activities while in child form.

I believe thats morally wrong its wrong in RL, and we have RL laws against it. We're all 18+ here(or at least should be). It's fun to relive our childhoods and act like children... go on sugar highs, run up to our adopted familes, put on a halo, and act all cute, and be forgiven because were cute. Theres nothing wrong with that. Age players who do sexual activites should be banned. Adults who want child avies or age players to do sexual activies should be banned and brought up on charges in the RL court systems. This is a GAME where we can BE who we WANT in a certain limitations. Now because of a select few, that is ruing the enjoyment of the game for me and my family. But if this petition does go through, I know me and my husband are both leaving the game. When we go so does that big huge tier we pay each month to play. And i know a few others who will leave.

I understand the concern of those trying to push the peitition through, but to remove an element of roleplaying (which is not violating any laws) just because a select few are, is rather idiotic. It's punishing the whole for the actions of a few. I like being in child form to relive my childhood. I also like interracting with my two foster sons that I ageplay with my husband alex. There's absolutely nothing in our interractions that wouldn't be perfect for a "leave it to beaver" episode, so why should we be punished? Why not just get rid of all other alternative lifestyles too while your at it, since there is always a bad element giving the lifestyle a bad name. Or let's take it to the extreme and give us all perma-underwear and perpetual PG sims.

Sorry all, I needed to Vent. This is just my rambling against this newly sprung up oppsition to ageplayers.

-Beth Brokken

P.S I can't seem to edit my poll... I'm sorry for using a negative. Basically say "YES" if you want to keep Ageplay in game, or NO if you want to see it removed along with all child avies.

This will not end well.

Hehe someone had to say it. ^.^

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I am in agreement. If any culture or lifestyle in SL gets banned it makes the company look even worse in the eyes of the residents. So i hit yes for NOT being banned.

The wording of your poll is clunky. Can you restate it?

The sexual is not the only issue to some people when it comes to age play. Personally, the concept of 50 year olds pretending to be a child is a bit troubling to me. Personally, it annoys me that said 50 year olds think 7 year olds talk like broken amazons, such as "Me thinks that cookie are loves. I are 7 and 19/74ths year olds." Basically, it's not just about the child sex.

But don't worry. It doesn't matter how many people sign a petition, it won't be banned.

:hakes his head.:: not this shit again.

What confuses me is that the OP says on the one hand that ageplay should not be banned and then turns around and says that some ageplayers should not only be banned but thrown in jail. I really don't have a clue what she's asking.

I think that was done on purpose, to confuse people.

*giggles*

I had this notecard sent to me and refused to 'sign it.' I think it was specifically geared towards sexual ageplayers, but my concern was more practical. Uh, it's a notecard. First of all Linden Lab isn't going to give a flying fuck how many people 'sign' that card, and besides, I could just punch up Search and 'sign' down every name that pops up. Anyone who thinks the signatures on that are all authentic is loopy and Linden Lab, if they have an ounce of sense, is just going to chunk it in the trash anyway. Nobody's going to (and possibly can't) independently verify all those 'signatures' on a bloody notecard.

So I wouldn't worry too much.

I never attribute malice where incompetence would suffice

It can't be. Just pretend you're both adults and do the rest via IM.

Hhmmm...that is a very good point.

I was just thinking as I posted that, that "never" is a bit overambitious. I sure try to live up to that, at any rate. Not saying that all people are morons, but oopses overwhelm acts of evil any day, I'd imagine.

Hehehehe, so then you made an "oops" in the first post?

I agree, I wouldn't worry too much. I think its more likely that Linden will take Age Play on a case-by-case basis, and take action only if the specific situation warrants it.

I don't believe many (or most) Age Play situations warrant Linden attention, and I disagree that Age Play always == Paedophilia, even in some quasi-sexual situations. Are some situations immoral and/or illegal? Sure. But the same could be said for other forms of roleplay too.

Oh, and I also agree that this wont end well

Either that or I'm evil. You decide

Hi Misses Brokken - it's been a while since I've seen you about.

This has been discussed a lot on the board before, and it usually doesn't go well. More flames than a gorean furry weenie roast.

My worry about those petitions - aside from them being inflammatory as well as ill-prepared (sign them and do what, exactly, and don't we have a voting system already?) - is that a lot of folks assume that all kid avatars are doing sexual age-play.

I'm sure that whoever started this petition had good intentions, and I don't disgree that the actions of sexual age play turn my stomach - I just hope people aren't throwing the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak. I know it gets tiresome for me to always have to explain that, no, that isn't what I'm doing.

Likewise, every time this gets brought up, I find myself having to deal with griefers, I suspect there is a correlation. As if shooting up kid avvies is somehow a better option than them having sexual contact.

On top of that, I wonder if all the discussions of the topic haven't actually backfired on those who lambaste it so. I'd suspect there are more into that sort of activity on the system now that people having given it so much publicity

Mari

Ya, I play a kid an, um, that annoys me too. I've never known a RL kid who uses "me" in place of "i."

So do those darned noisy pacifiers, especially when it's a kid older than me using one. I can't stand that.

Then again, we all get to make our own Second Life. Who am I to complain?

Mari

I not only didn't sign it but also defriended the sender.

I thought the forums were closing?

Everyone has the right to their own opinions on this topic that is going on.

I'm going to take a guess and say at least 90% of the people that play in game are 18+, and I say 90% because after reading some of the other topics in the forum going on, and finding out that there are actually underaged kids playing, it's kinda scarey.

I to from time to time play in little girl mode. I'm a little girls clothes maker in game, and I have to shrink down to little girl form to make clothes. Yes I have game parents like most kids in the game, and I've been known to role play being alittle girl. But the thought so of a sexual relationship when I'm in little girl form is very disturbing to me. I realize for the most part we are all consenting adults in a game world, but taking into consideration that there could be underage kids playing kids in the game, it makes it more disturbing to me to even think that some adult, not knowing that that person playing that kid, could actually be a child in rl and who knows what that person would feel like if an adult in the game come on to them.

I realize the game is called Second Life and you can be anything you want to be in your second life. But I don't think that banning kid avi's in the game is the way to go. After reading other forums and finding out that with all those recent free accounts and no age verification being done on them, you can never tell who's a kid and who's an adult, unless someone is willing to give out their rl age, but even then you take the chance of someone lying about it. So my thoughts on this is, if your going to play a kid in the game, then play a kid and don't get into the sexual side of the game, if your going to be an adult then play an adult and be responsible, because what you do in game at some point will catch up to you, if you decide you think that it's cool to have sex in game with someone that chooses to be a kid. Yes we all role play, I role as a kid to, but the thought of having sex while in little girl form doesn't appeal to me. It's just down right freaking ass gross.

--Angelina Marquez

I'd stop to discuss the topic but I'd rather try to get an invite to a gorean furry weenie roast.

When you get one, can u please send one to me too lmao j/k

-Ang

Yeah those guys sound more like Jar Jar Binks than a kid.

There is a misstatement of truth in that notecard to begin with; ageplay is not against the law in real life, or else you wouldn't see nearly so many older women buying schoolgirl outfits.

I've seen it circulating. It's a big load of bullshit. What are you going to do? Ban avs under a certain height? Way to screw over avatar makers (even those of us who don't make child avs). This is a thought crime, and frankly, I would prefer my brain to remain unpoliced.

They'd trip over the tentacles and chains, anyways.