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Designer with an attitude

Sue Han
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08-21-2006 00:35
It just takes one over inflated ego to cause some great, talented and helpful designers to be painted with the same broad brush. Such a pity.


http://crying-rose-studio-design.blogspot.com/

http://crying-rose-studio-design.blogspot.com/2006/07/warning-my-friends-list.html

http://katanablade.net/ I particularly like the comment she makes here about how her worldwide online influence has caused others to enjoy and take the coveted Katana name.

If you dig around her site a bit you will see more of the same egotistical bullshit.
Allana Dion
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08-21-2006 01:02
Well I have a feeling this thread is going to be locked fairly quickly.

But yea, I love how in two seperate incidents she uses a person's lifestyle against them in business dealings. When a person does this it is the ultimate in unprofessionalism. I have had people try to use it against me and it instantly turns me off ever wanting to deal with the person again.

From: Business owner in question
you are very argumentive for a submissive, that is very disrepectful
do you have a Master, because i would like to speak with him
From: Business owner in question
Get over your I'm a Dom attitude that I should bow down to you.
This is why I have zero tolerance for arrogant online dominat males, they treat women like trash.
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Lost Newcomb
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08-21-2006 01:04
Kinda like yesterday's thread.

But one question I have to ask is.

Who the hell killed Jesus and made these people God?

I mean who do they think they are?! People this stuck-up don't deserve customers.

Edit: Reading this site, I am quite sure now that is a guy. Why do men want to pretend to be women?!
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08-21-2006 01:07
If you're going to post stuff that reflects on someone's reputation, even if it is their own words, it's only sporting that you back it with your own reputation, rather than what appears to be an alt, with its one post and August join date.
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Lost Newcomb
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08-21-2006 01:11
From: Fade Languish
If you're going to post stuff that reflects on someone's reputation, even if it is their own words, it's only sporting that you back it with your own reputation, rather than what appears to be an alt, with its one post and August join date.


Great and have the victim further vitimized by this God of a designer who'd put him/her on that awful SLAM list.. bang bang.. your banned from 90% of SL.

Anyone can see reading that blog what an ass that designer (??) .. person who made some stuff in SL ... is.
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Albion DeVaux
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08-21-2006 01:11
Quite why she has copied the chat onto her blog is beyond me. Does she not realise it is her who comes out of it looking bad? She is rude from the first moment. I'll never buy anything from her.

Albion
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08-21-2006 01:18
From: Lost Newcomb
Great and have the victim further vitimized by this God of a designer who'd put him/her on that awful SLAM list.. bang bang.. your banned from 90% of SL.

Anyone can see reading that blog what an ass that designer (??) .. person who made some stuff in SL ... is.


Sure the words speak for themselves. Doesn't make this fair though. And since they do, why hide?
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PetGirl Bergman
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08-21-2006 01:26
I say as I always have - Customer service are as IRL as in SL very important..

That can of course be diff made - but if a customer dont feel as she/he did get it.. why shall he/she come back?

To shop are so much more than get what you paid for..

/Tina
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Lost Newcomb
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08-21-2006 01:28
From: Fade Languish
Sure the words speak for themselves. Doesn't make this fair though. And since they do, why hide?


Cause it might possibly be someone else making the post (here)? And that someone else don't wanna get thrown into a trap with this so called designer?
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alice Pinkerton
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hmmm...
08-21-2006 01:32
This is becoming more and more frequent in SL. Rude shop owners/ Designers/ builders need to realiser that if they upset their customers, they will lose future sales. I have read her blog and have made a decision to steer well clear of her stores as I believe she is aggressive without reason.
Also... if she doesnt want to pay rent, she SHOULD pick up her stuff and move. It will become obvious before long that it is her attitude, not the mall that is causing the problem. Good designers with good shops/designers/ builders generate their own traffic and return buisiness.

As to the point about this thread not being "fair"... nah. She has publicly posted a private conversation on her website... people SHOULD read it!
Allana Dion
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08-21-2006 01:38
From: Lost Newcomb
.. person who made some stuff in SL ... is.
Hehe. This made me smile because it's true. I have been making stuff in SL since, well since the first time someone showed me how to make a prim and mangle it. (Thankyou "K", you know who you are :) )

Because I have a store and people buy stuff from me I can fall under the category "Designer". But the fact is I just make stuff. I spend hours obsessing in Paintshop until my eyes are burning and catch myself zooming in on someone I see wearing one of my outfits to see if I can catch any flaws (yes more obsessing lol). But that doesn't make me any more special than someone who puts all their time and energy into hosting a great event, or running a club, or just spending time being a good friend to their friends, or any of the other thousands of things people do every day.

The bad behavior of one customer is simply part of doing business and up to the store owner to deal with, it is not a problem for the next customer to have to be held responsible for. If thats too difficult for you to accept and work through then you need to be in a different line of work where you'll be happier. If customer service makes a person so miserable, why do it?

(edited for length)
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08-21-2006 01:38
From: alice Pinkerton
As to the point about this thread not being "fair"... nah. She has publicly posted a private conversation on her website... people SHOULD read it!


Sure they should read it. I think by posting that chat the designer only damaged themselves. That's pretty clear to anyone. I don't really wanna argue with people about it, I just see it as a bit unfair to use an alt to point it out. If others see it different, fine, they see it different.
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nimrod Yaffle
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08-21-2006 01:42
Watch from post 25+, also go to the SLX link in there (http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=discussions&ItemID=74355):
/108/11/109227/1.html
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Lost Newcomb
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08-21-2006 01:45
From: nimrod Yaffle


Yeah I saw that guy, what an asshole. BTW he can be banned from slx for making those anti-gay remarks. I think there must be some policy about something like thait?!

Also if you want a starax fish... I got a goldish heh!
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Jack Harker
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08-21-2006 01:48
From: Sue Han
It just takes one over inflated ego to cause some great, talented and helpful designers to be painted with the same broad brush. Such a pity.


http://crying-rose-studio-design.blogspot.com/

http://crying-rose-studio-design.blogspot.com/2006/07/warning-my-friends-list.html

http://katanablade.net/ I particularly like the comment she makes here about how her worldwide online influence has caused others to enjoy and take the coveted Katana name.

If you dig around her site a bit you will see more of the same egotistical bullshit.


I was reading the first one. It doesn't look like she's unreasonable at all, it looks like somone's being pushy and can't wait a day to get work done on an outfit that cost them an entire $L1000, which is about $3 in real money.

Sorry, but this is the sort of thing that is really a pain in the ass to most designers, that they're expected to be on call 24x7, for people who can't read directions.
Lost Newcomb
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08-21-2006 01:49
From: Fade Languish
Sure they should read it. I think by posting that chat the designer only damaged themselves. That's pretty clear to anyone. I don't really wanna argue with people about it, I just see it as a bit unfair to use an alt to point it out. If others see it different, fine, they see it different.


I'm just trying to think what kind of drunken/drug endused state would make someone post a blog entry like that, incriminating herself, and quite possibly sending customers away from her store and those of her buddies.

If I were her, I'd post another entry about being hacked and someone posting some bs.. but reading the other stuff there it just looks like this person just is not happy being in SL ?
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08-21-2006 01:51
From: nimrod Yaffle


That guy had deep-seated issues that went beyond being a 'designer'.
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08-21-2006 01:58
Lost and Fade, I'm feeling some tension between you two.
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08-21-2006 02:00
From: Lost Newcomb
I'm just trying to think what kind of drunken/drug endused state would make someone post a blog entry like that, incriminating herself, and quite possibly sending customers away from her store and those of her buddies.

If I were her, I'd post another entry about being hacked and someone posting some bs.. but reading the other stuff there it just looks like this person just is not happy being in SL ?


Mmm yeah it's one thing to have said it, I'm sure people have bad days and get off on the wrong foot with customers, no matter how good their general intentions. It's another to look at it in hindsight, publish the chat in a blog (which was a bit OTT anyway and not exactly nice to single out a customer in that way), get indignant about it, and not even realise that your own communication is lacking and really the whole incident could have been avoided.
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Allana Dion
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08-21-2006 02:02
From: Jack Harker
I was reading the first one. It doesn't look like she's unreasonable at all, it looks like somone's being pushy and can't wait a day to get work done on an outfit that cost them an entire $L1000, which is about $3 in real money.

Sorry, but this is the sort of thing that is really a pain in the ass to most designers, that they're expected to be on call 24x7, for people who can't read directions.


She started out openly hostile and it got worse from there, then she dragged the woman's lifestyle into it asking to speak to her "Master" instead.

The entire thing could have been resolved very simply with something along these lines that I myself have used before....

"What time are you planning to be online tomorow?....
I'm hoping to be online around (such and such) time but I can't guarantee it exactly. Tell you what, why don't you send me an IM when you come online to remind me and I'll contact you back and we can set an exact time for you to come over for your fitting. We'll both know more by then about how our days are going to be."

There problem solved, happy customer happy designer. The woman said a couple of times that all she wanted was an appointment, an estimate of the time frame. Thats not hard to give.
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Lost Newcomb
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08-21-2006 02:03
All this reminds me of that dude who was a blogger, wrote about killing kids and did it. Anyone know a link there? I've been trying to search for his blog for a while.. remember it being up even after they caught him. Yet another reason why BLOGS are EVIL.

No tension nim.. just discourse.
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Fade Languish
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08-21-2006 02:06
From: nimrod Yaffle
Lost and Fade, I'm feeling some tension between you two.


I don't think so. I didn't really sense any from Lost, and I'm certainly not fussed we see something differently. I'm Australian remember, which means a high threshold for give-a-fuckedness. :D
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08-21-2006 02:27
From: Sue Han
It just takes one over inflated ego to cause some great, talented and helpful designers to be painted with the same broad brush. Such a pity.


http://crying-rose-studio-design.blogspot.com/

http://crying-rose-studio-design.blogspot.com/2006/07/warning-my-friends-list.html

http://katanablade.net/ I particularly like the comment she makes here about how her worldwide online influence has caused others to enjoy and take the coveted Katana name.

If you dig around her site a bit you will see more of the same egotistical bullshit.



--- Wow...

What a whining bitch....She should rename herself to crying baby studio designs...

One designer I won't go see to buy things from.

In fact, I feel sorry for her customer. And I personally will send her 250 L$ for her obvious patience, courtesy while being treated poorly by that designer.

In the end the customer was the wise one: returned the item, as I see it without getting a refund and no longer needing the services (or lack thereof) of that particular designer.

I encourage others to do the same ...
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08-21-2006 02:28
From: Sue Han
It just takes one over inflated ego to cause some great, talented and helpful designers to be painted with the same broad brush. Such a pity.


http://crying-rose-studio-design.blogspot.com/

http://crying-rose-studio-design.blogspot.com/2006/07/warning-my-friends-list.html

http://katanablade.net/ I particularly like the comment she makes here about how her worldwide online influence has caused others to enjoy and take the coveted Katana name.

If you dig around her site a bit you will see more of the same egotistical bullshit.


CUSTOMER SERVICE is imperative within business hours and in her defence i can clearly see on her website her business hours, i would imagine the same hours are displayed within SL to so we should also respect that. Also she is suffering from RL health problems and maybe her temper is just a bit frayed, she also has a young child and they are time consuming and wont adhere to the hours we need them to not that that is an excuse for bad customer service as u can create an alt for play if u need an escape as do i :)

For me if someone gives me a bum deal in business i will do everything in my power to ensure all my friends and contacts are aware and ask them to pass the info round. The designer here seems arrogant but then people call me arrogant for knowing exactly what i want from life and knowing that i will achieve it within the times i set ;)

Though for me her comment (quoted below) on her website does it for me as her name is the name of a sword thats been around a loooong time and the assumption that its her name lol now thats arrogance:

"Let me start off my saying I have been Kxxxx Bxxxx (Name Xd out cos of SL rules) on the net and as a RL dancer for more then 6 years back then it wasnt a very used name by any means on the net unless it was sword releated. So apparently my time on the net has made my name likable and people think oh cool name i'm going to use it. HELLO?! lets get real here people it is not a common name. Last time I look now there is a PORN STAR using my name lmao which is rather funny because I danced for 13 years under that alias but now I am retired some poor slut wants to use a beautiful alias and make it a Whores name! True dancers never slept with a man for money not even on film Whore is still a Whore when put money in your hands and let that man slip it in lol."

However i would always put my customers/clients first as long as it was within my business hours, outside of business hours then my time is my own and if i was free i would then help or arrange a convienient time for them later.

Caveat Emptor or buyer beware seems to be forgotton here in SL where its needed more than ever, where quality is not the only issue as in addition to the quality of the merchandise, this phrase also applies to the return policy. In most jurisdictions, there is no legal requirement for the vendor to provide a refund or exchange. In many cases, the vendor will not provide a refund but will provide a credit.

Moral of the story is check out the designer before u commit L$'s to a purchase, ask about them their returns and refunds policy customers etc etc first and if they fit into what u expect then purchase from them, if not vote with your wallet :)

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Raquel Montagne
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08-21-2006 02:44
glad to see this idiot is finally being found out for the abusive pest they are.
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