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"Responsible" W-Hats stand up please!

Ingrid Ingersoll
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10-26-2005 13:12
You know if you actually wore a "W" hat it would actually end up looking like an "M" on your head.
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Masakazu Kojima
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10-26-2005 13:12
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W-hat or :w-hat: came shortly after the ‘what’ craze in FYAD/GBS. The image was at first a clever way of saying ‘what’ and later a way of saying ‘what’ without a ban... for a while.
Ingrid Ingersoll
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10-26-2005 13:20
You know if you actually ever wore a "W" hat it would end up looking like an "M" on your head.
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Dianne Mechanique
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10-26-2005 13:40
From: Memir Quinn
Well I can't claim to know-know any (knowingly anyway), but Huns Valen I think is a w-hat or very closely associated with them and does seem to make a resoundingly positive contribution to the SL flying community at large.

I mean, that auto-gyro of his (Its for sale at Busy Ben's or Abbotts)? Completely nifty, his burning life build equally nifty.

I've also heard of others (from friends of friends) whom seem to have equal capacities for creative and positive contributions. Not saying they are the lion's share or even the status quo for that group... but there does seem to be a few good apples in the bushel...

Whether or not that justifies retaining said is a wholly different story. *shrugs* But I think there maybe more than a grain of truth to the oft repeated lament that not all condone or support the actions of the rest (majority?).
Yay! :) :)

Mem wins the prize for closest to the actual answer I was looking for.

Not the heroic altruist I had hoped for perhaps, but a constructive member of the community that has *some* kind of loose association with W-Hat. It would be cool to know what she/he thinks themselves though.

I am seriously into the autogyro.
I will have to check it out, especially if it's a "Juan de la Ciervea type."
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Wade Baldwin
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10-26-2005 13:52
My original goal was to supply a steady stream of Warhammer-related merchandise for the populace, but then my connection and old computer puttered out on me. That was six months ago. Been trying to come back to start making War40k merch again, but Dawn of War kinda did it for me already. Ran a record store prior to that called Exiled Japan records which sold a grand total of one record.

What have I contributed? Nothing overly positive, nor anything remotely negative. I was too busy to bother with scripting (can't make anything malicious) and was only just getting better at modeling. So what does that make me? I'm an SA-goer, and I got along marvelously with people like Masa and Huns. The W-Hat bases (the old ones) were hilarious trainwrecks of comedy, extreme bad taste, inside jokes and talented modeling. Why wouldn't I have stuck around with this bunch? Don't read too much into things that are more dada-ist nonsense and less meaningful metaphors.
Aliasi Stonebender
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10-26-2005 13:55
From: Dianne Mechanique
Yay! :) :)

Mem wins the prize for closest to the actual answer I was looking for.

Not the heroic altruist I had hoped for perhaps, but a constructive member of the community that has *some* kind of loose association with W-Hat. It would be cool to know what she/he thinks themselves though.

I am seriously into the autogyro.
I will have to check it out, especially if it's a "Juan de la Ciervea type."


There's quite a few more. WoccaWocca Kuhr has organized several fun events (Battlebots and some Thinker's meets). Several of the 'hats have a flair for making unusual and fun items, many of which are for sale at the Arcolith Project, although many have opened stores elsewhere (such as BAZ).

It's just, as always, bad news gets more press than good news. I'm not by any means saying that the 'hats are a bunch of saints, but they range from rational to raving.

Also, most of their builds are actually kind of amusing if you don't have a stick up yer end. (Not implying anything about you specifically, Dianne; just that I find more wry amusement than shock and awe over 90% of the W-hat builds I've seen.)
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Renault Clio
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10-26-2005 14:27
From: Cocoanut Koala
W-hat IS a synonym for asshat.

To hell with them all. At this stage, none of them gets any sympathy from me, except by dissociating themselves entirely from this group which HAS no point except to discomfit others.

Since the bitching is rising up here, and because I'm too lazy to find a proper thread...

Here we go again. All SL being upset again and having a field day. All because of a theoretically really simple safeguard, accidentally (not) triggered by some screwery (a.k.a. it failed), because it's buggy as hell and ineffective. How hard can it be to implement a goddamn generations counter? Oh wait, I forgot... it takes LL a freakin' lifetime to implement a rather minor patch, and still hasn't managed to get downtimes below the 12hr mark either. Gee, why am I surprised?

And lets not even cut into the general douchbaggery that happens in this game. The freakin' game is all about virtual sex. Est. 50% are furries, est. 33% is all about BDSM, yet people are getting permabanned because some douchebags in this game can't stand some out of the ordinary creativity. On a mature sim. On the adult grid. Inbetween their breaks from humping a sexball with some furry avatar with 7 scripted cocks.

Most of you need to get fucking outside once a while!

A luck I prefer to bother with EVE Online meanwhile, short of SL rebooting my machine all the time because it hates ATI cards. At least I can shoot the hemorraging retards in EVE.
Adohan Zephyr
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10-26-2005 14:38
Sup Ren?
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10-26-2005 14:38
From: Renault Clio


And lets not even cut into the general douchbaggery that happens in this game. The freakin' game is all about virtual sex. Est. 50% are furries, est. 33% is all about BDSM, yet people are getting permabanned because some douchebags in this game can't stand some out of the ordinary creativity. On a mature sim. On the adult grid. Inbetween their breaks from humping a sexball with some furry avatar with 7 scripted cocks.

Most of you need to get fucking outside once a while!


Ehh... this is why it's suprising when you find out teens can read these forums.
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10-26-2005 14:41
From: Renault Clio
Since the bitching is rising up here, and because I'm too lazy to find a proper thread...

Here we go again. All SL being upset again and having a field day. All because of a theoretically really simple safeguard, accidentally (not) triggered by some screwery (a.k.a. it failed), because it's buggy as hell and ineffective. How hard can it be to implement a goddamn generations counter? Oh wait, I forgot... it takes LL a freakin' lifetime to implement a rather minor patch, and still hasn't managed to get downtimes below the 12hr mark either. Gee, why am I surprised?

And lets not even cut into the general douchbaggery that happens in this game. The freakin' game is all about virtual sex. Est. 50% are furries, est. 33% is all about BDSM, yet people are getting permabanned because some douchebags in this game can't stand some out of the ordinary creativity. On a mature sim. On the adult grid. Inbetween their breaks from humping a sexball with some furry avatar with 7 scripted cocks.

Most of you need to get fucking outside once a while!

A luck I prefer to bother with EVE Online meanwhile, short of SL rebooting my machine all the time because it hates ATI cards. At least I can shoot the hemorraging retards in EVE.


Um, yeah, OK. :rolleyes:
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Iridian Oz
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10-26-2005 14:46
From: Gabe Lippmann
Um, yeah, OK. :rolleyes:

It's actually a good thing Gabe, when they let a little light slip through the cracks...
Harris Hare
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10-26-2005 14:56
From: someone
People are getting permabanned because some douchebags in this game can't stand some out of the ordinary creativity.
Remember kids: breaking the TOS is okay, just as long as it's creative! Protip Get!
Rimble Rampal
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10-26-2005 15:16
I am not in W-hat anymore. I was but I left due to very hard pressure from a few "friends." (Who I don't even talk to anymore). I am not some altruistic person who gives out free stuff to people (unless I am cleaning my inventory!). Still, I own over 8k meters of land and have been IW for about 18 months. Never been banned, got one warning because I was online at the same time as someone in a group was doing jerky things (NOT W-hat go figure hey). I still hang out on SA daily, group with SA people in EQ2, and chat with W-hat people once in a while (not in game much lately). Is that "good enough" for you Dianne?

Don't judge a group by a few people who are in it. Do you know how many members of W-hat there are? Probably not since it is a unlisted group. Heck, I don't know. But if say...2 people do something stupid/griefing/blah blah out of say 400 (based on the number Maza used in a different thread), that means there are still 398 members who AREN'T griefers. The KKK comparisons are ridiculous. W-hat is formed as a social group of people who have something in common, a website they belong to. SA/goons do this is many many games. Not just SL by any means.

As to their humor, yes it can be lowbrow at times. Not everything has to be kittens and sunshine or old paintings in an art museum. I find somethings on SA hilarious and others lame. Just like I find some builds in SL stupid and others brilliant, regardless of the group that made them. I think this is what Ren was referring too. Not the person who crashed the game. W-hatters who are making silly builds.
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Margaret Mfume
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10-26-2005 15:18
From: Renault Clio
Most of you need to get fucking outside once a while!

A luck I prefer to bother with EVE Online meanwhile, short of SL rebooting my machine all the time because it hates ATI cards. At least I can shoot the hemorraging retards in EVE.


Does get fucking outside once a while now mean playing online games like EVE and WOW? I had images on a beach at first. Just trying to keep current here.
Lecktor Hannibal
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10-26-2005 15:28
Hey don't knock fucking outside now!!
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Mulch Ennui
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10-26-2005 15:28
From: Cocoanut Koala
To hell with positive contributions.

You could make positive contributions till the cows come home, but any credit you get for them is wiped out entirely as far as I'm concerned with a single act of griefing.

It isn't necessary to become a social do-gooder in SL. It IS necessary to refrain from actively trying to make other people miserable.


Coco, not to be obnoxious, but you are in tight with the biggest griefer in all of SL. As a matter of fact, you were once considered and accused of being one of his/her 2,438,943 Alts. With that many alts, that surely qualifies as a gang!

and you can say the person has done good, and I would agree with you, but I could list many many many many many people who are on the recieving end of his/her rage.

From: Seth Kanahoe
What does this mean? "Actually contributes"? "Tangible way"? I can think of ten different definitions of these criteria that demonstrates that W-Hat contributes, and you do not. And ten others in which the reverse is the case.

I like W-Hat for the following reason: They take the pathetic, business-oriented, socially-sustained, "creator-class" mentality in SL and stand it on its head.

I dislike W-Hat for the following reason: They're amateurs who use sledge hammers when stilettos would be far more effective. Learn2play the game.


And I second Seths statement, a pretty decent breakdown of why they are NEEDED here.
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Cheyenne Marquez
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10-26-2005 16:06
From: Mulch Ennui
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I knew it wouldn't be long before we got input from Mulch "Incognito W-hat" Ennui :)
Mulch Ennui
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10-26-2005 16:09
From: Cheyenne Marquez
I knew it wouldn't be long before we got input from Mulch "Incognito W-hat" Ennui :)


I gotta join SA forums and wait 3 months before i can join =(
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Cheyenne Marquez
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10-26-2005 16:11
From: Mulch Ennui
I gotta join SA forums and wait 3 months before i can join =(


I would say you have pretty much earned "honorary" w-hat status by now :)
Mulch Ennui
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10-26-2005 16:21
From: Cheyenne Marquez
I would say you have pretty much earned "honorary" w-hat status by now :)


If so I wish they'd let me know

and a free membership to SA forums wouldnt hurt either
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TXGorilla Falcone
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10-26-2005 16:21
I would actualy like to ask why do many ppl and this is not just saying whowver in the W-Hat group hate Furries? True we may be everywhere by now in SL and Im not gonna say that none are greifers coz ive seen some but we usualy leave yall to yalls own self.
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Rimble Rampal
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10-26-2005 16:29
Personally, I think the SA "hate" of furries is overdone. It is more of a forum joke at this point. Same as the forums will raze you for spelling ridiculous "rediculous" or how sciencetology is looked down upon. There are people on SA who like furries or are a furry (and W-hat members for that matter).

I think a lot of people's perception is based on that one CSI episode. So yeah, that would turn a lot of people off. Just like basing BDSM from their one episode would be (not that they are similar necessarily at all!).
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Margaret Mfume
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10-26-2005 16:29
From: Lecktor Hannibal
Hey don't knock fucking outside now!!

I most certainly am not. I'm the one who was thinking beach (not bitch) which is outside. Then I remembered the source and realizing that the likelihood of his having intimate knowledge of such pleasures either in or out of doors were nil so he must be using it in the "I'm a big boy now, you can tell by the way I say douchebag" sense. So do you know if get fucking outside once a while is a euphenism for getting out of one online venue and into to another? Also, when they open a new window, do they think they're letting the fresh air in?
Nauv DeFarge
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10-26-2005 17:41
From: TXGorilla Falcone
I would actualy like to ask why do many ppl and this is not just saying whowver in the W-Hat group hate Furries? True we may be everywhere by now in SL and Im not gonna say that none are greifers coz ive seen some but we usualy leave yall to yalls own self.


Because they are furries man shesh.
Cocoanut Koala
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10-26-2005 18:55
From: Mulch Ennui
Coco, not to be obnoxious, but you are in tight with the biggest griefer in all of SL. As a matter of fact, you were once considered and accused of being one of his/her 2,438,943 Alts. With that many alts, that surely qualifies as a gang!

and you can say the person has done good, and I would agree with you, but I could list many many many many many people who are on the recieving end of his/her rage.



And I second Seths statement, a pretty decent breakdown of why they are NEEDED here.

What total crap.

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