LL will do things in their own self-interest and in the interest of their "favorites" in SL. LL is not unbiased, even towards it's largest single customer.
Thats bull honkies.
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12-14-2005 16:39
LL will do things in their own self-interest and in the interest of their "favorites" in SL. LL is not unbiased, even towards it's largest single customer. Thats bull honkies. |
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12-14-2005 16:42
Thats bull honkies. Bull Shit. I know from first-hand experience buddy! ![]() |
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12-14-2005 16:46
Bull Shit. I know from first-hand experience buddy! ![]() Example? Better yet, think about that person. Think about what that person does for SL, or for the community in gerneral. Then think about how LL acknowledges that person. Now think annalize yourself, same questions. SL is a community game, and those that are helping or furthering the community might get an extra pat on the head. Unless of course, you have an example that says otherwise. |
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12-14-2005 16:54
Example? Better yet, think about that person. Think about what that person does for SL, or for the community in gerneral. Then think about how LL acknowledges that person. Now think annalize yourself, same questions. SL is a community game, and those that are helping or furthering the community might get an extra pat on the head. Unless of course, you have an example that says otherwise. Having my own land (half a sim) taken from me and having me removed from a group that I founded (actually co-founded, but technically founded). Linden lab worked in conjunction with with a group of residents to have me removed and have hundreds of USD$ stolen from me. LL has their favorites, and will go to any length to help them. They are called the FIC (Feted Inner Core). Now, be prepared to have their friends slander me and pummel me into the ground. |
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12-14-2005 16:57
LL will do things in their own self-interest and in the interest of their "favorites" in SL. LL is not unbiased, even towards it's largest single customer. There's a word for firms that ignore their largest customers: bankrupt. _____________________
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12-14-2005 16:57
Thats bull honkies. BULL HONKIES! hahah! ![]() _____________________
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Tren Neva
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12-14-2005 16:58
Gigas, Adam Zaius and Nexus Nash, having my own land (half a sim) taken from me and having me removed from the Gigas group that I founded (actually co-founded, but technically founded). Linden lab worked in conjunction with Nexus Nash, Adam Zaius, and the whole #secondlife IRC gang to have me removed and have hundreds of USD$ stolen from me. LL has their favorites, and will go to any length to help them. They are called the FIC (Feted Inner Core). Now, be prepared to have their friends slander me and pummel me into the ground. Well, not sure its possible to an unbiased side of the story from this, as I'm sure there was alot of drama involved. Did LL really agree with everyone in the group because they were "FIC", or did they agree because they were the majority of the group and it was concidered group land? |
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12-14-2005 17:04
Well, not sure its possible to an unbiased side of the story from this, as I'm sure there was alot of drama involved. Did LL really agree with everyone in the group because they were "FIC", or did they agree because they were the majority of the group and it was concidered group land? Well they certainly didn't agree with me. A Linden took ownership of my land, and gave it to them. Then a Linden forcibly removed me from the group as an officer (not possible back then without a recall vote). All god-requiring actions to take, and not a word to me about it from Linden Labs. Robin Linden said she'd look into it, but nothing ever came of it. As for Anshe's perdicament, well they are not supporting their best customer. Interesting that. They support folks that aren't their best customers, but are their close friends in RL. |
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12-14-2005 17:10
Well they certainly didn't agree with me. A Linden took ownership of my land, and gave it to them. Then a Linden forcibly removed me from the group as an officer (not possible back then without a recall vote). All god-requiring actions to take, and not a word to me about it from Linden Labs. Robin Linden said she'd look into it, but nothing ever came of it. The Gigas folks sit back and enjoy special access to Linden Lab developers, and win many LL contests. Interesting. As for Anshe's perdicament, well they are not supporting their best customer. Interesting that. They support folks that aren't their best customers, but are their close friends in RL. Or rather, one person that isn't LL said a mall looked bad, which it may or may not. I agree that it shouldn't be in a list, but it has nothing "LL likes these people more". Personally, I don't see anything wrong with supporting people that try to make SL a better place and a better game, not some buisness venture. As for your example, there really is no easy answer for it. You were in a group and shared land, a risk that shouldn't be a risk. Such a person could destory the group and pretty much all of their land. LL went with the majority, and you lost your investment. It has nothing to do with "these people are more popular", it has to do with "these people are more people then you". |
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12-14-2005 17:17
Or rather, one person that isn't LL said a mall looked bad, which it may or may not. I agree that it shouldn't be in a list, but it has nothing "LL likes these people more". Personally, I don't see anything wrong with supporting people that try to make SL a better place and a better game, not some buisness venture. As for your example, there really is no easy answer for it. You were in a group and shared land, a risk that shouldn't be a risk. Such a person could destory the group and pretty much all of their land. LL went with the majority, and you lost your investment. It has nothing to do with "these people are more popular", it has to do with "these people are more people then you". If that is true, then LL should be ashamed of themselves. I call on LL to explain themselves. |
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12-14-2005 17:25
If that is true, then LL should be ashamed of themselves. I call on Robin Linden and Philip Linden to explain themselves. Ashamed of themselves? This just came out like a few days ago, and it shows that it should be filtered by LL rather then it being community created and ran. Personally, I think we're in a bad state if we have to rely on LL for things that should easily be community handled. |
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12-14-2005 17:46
I know this list might be bad,
But the more you talk about it, the more the people will know about it. Many people did not even know a "Bad list" existed, or knew about it but never looked. I still think its wrong and they should remove it, but making this big fiasco wont get anything solved. _____________________
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12-14-2005 18:01
Ashamed of themselves? This just came out like a few days ago, and it shows that it should be filtered by LL rather then it being community created and ran. Personally, I think we're in a bad state if we have to rely on LL for things that should easily be community handled. Yes, they should be ashamed of themselves. |
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12-14-2005 18:04
Yes, they should be ashamed of themselves. No, but everyone else should be. |
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12-14-2005 18:08
No, but everyone else should be. Everyone here should be ashamed of what exactly? ![]() |
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12-14-2005 18:13
Everyone here should be ashamed of what exactly? ![]() Of your face. |
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12-14-2005 18:42
You know what everyone, I give up. I quite SL. Who give a fuck about this world anyways. I fight and fight and fight against injustice, about people being abused, about myself being abused by those favored by LL and I'm getting no where. Fuck SL. It's been a good 3 year run. Screw it all. I give up.
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12-14-2005 18:55
You know what everyone, I give up. I quite SL. Who give a fuck about this world anyways. I fight and fight and fight against injustice, about people being abused, about myself being abused by those favored by LL and I'm getting no where. Fuck SL. It's been a good 3 year run. Screw it all. I give up. ![]() Oh come on. ![]() I wish I could do that in real life sometimes. That would get rid of my traffic ticket I guess. ![]() I was not speeding I swear. But my opinion doesn't matter to the athority of a police officer. ![]() Thats life I guess. Kind of intersting how SL adapted that stuff too. ![]() If that even makes any sense. Now I'm lost. What were we talking about? _____________________
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12-14-2005 18:58
You know what everyone, I give up. I quite SL. Who give a fuck about this world anyways. I fight and fight and fight against injustice, about people being abused, about myself being abused by those favored by LL and I'm getting no where. Fuck SL. It's been a good 3 year run. Screw it all. I give up. ![]() Fighting made up battles by yelling at them does nothing. |
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12-14-2005 19:06
Of your face. This should be the new general purpose reply to anything on the forums. _____________________
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12-14-2005 19:21
This should be the new general purpose reply to anything on the forums. It would make arguements go faster. And it would award the person who said it first the whole "I win, ninner ninner" prize. |
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12-14-2005 19:27
This should be the new general purpose reply to anything on the forums. Was thinking some "your momma" jokes could work as well. Holy crap this thread has turned into an entire FARM of drama llamas! edited: because I just realized I could take this thread, combine it with the JEVN whatever thingy thread and start a damn petting zoo |
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12-14-2005 19:39
you are lowering the average intelligence of the sl community ![]() Just like you dear. Anshe does too by trolling this public forum with personal problems. Poor little crybaby ![]() |
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12-14-2005 20:14
Yeah, it's under a sign that says Linden information. And one could defer that this was Linden Information. Well until you actually use it, then the disclaimer makes it abundantly clear that it's written by residents and Lindens don't claim responsibility for it. I was talking to Persephone when I said "did you even read the article?", though I should ask if you did too since you seem to believe that the article was pointing out the worst places in SL. But it was actually pointing and sleezy and obtrusive business tactics such as gigantic signs and "people-scoop" malls, then had pictures of certain malls including anshes and signs that did this. I honestly don't see the travesty here. I see Anshe getting in her classic huff because it effects her indirectly (though isn't it interesting that no one else who owned a mall mentioned in that article has as of yet seemed to give a damn?), and then a few people calling it horrible because it's Libel or for unexplained reasons but both of which seem to link back to Anshe getting in a huff in the first place. Who wouldn't get in a huff over it? How would anyone like the Lindens putting their own information in the welcome areas and telehub areas and then having that same sign include who and what to avoid? Would Flipper like it if someone got to slam SLBoutique on the "Linden Information" sign, disclaimer or no? Would Cubey like it if someone decided to write about his vehicles in a negative way? Would Aimee like it if they decided to say Midnight City was the pits? Or is it all okay because it's just Anshee? Plus other people that no one seems to care about? As for Dionne, last time I looked her NAME was still there, under a negative heading. Infonet hasn't been the slightest bit cooperative in removing these things, by the way. They were still there last I looked. It is outlandish that this sort of thing - or ANY sort of private company or private resident communication - should appear on a sign that says "Linden Information." Anyway, who ARE these people with such power? And why do they have it? They clearly and absolutely should NOT have it. I don't care who they are. This is such a complete no-brainer. It doesn't matter what they say on Infonet. It doesn't matter what lists or articles they do or don't have. They shouldn't be there at ALL. The Lindens should have their own sign for their own information, not piggyback on top of any other private resident or concern. Others should be put on the sandwich board, or in other equal fashions. I'm certain the Lindens can manage their own dispenser for their own information. The question is - why don't they? coco _____________________
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12-14-2005 20:34
As for Dionne, last time I looked her NAME was still there, under a negative heading. Infonet hasn't been the slightest bit cooperative in removing these things, by the way. They were still there last I looked. Yeah, Dione's is still there with <deleted> put before it and a new notecard explaining why it was removed. --------------------- Second Hell Tourbus First Stop: Dione's Designs --------------------- Due legalities and unclear facts, this article has been removed from circulation. --------------------- Disclaimer: InfoNet Systems is not responsible for articles relating to the Second Hell Tourbus as they are controlled by a third party publishing group. As a result, InfoNet Systems is unable to answer any queries relating to the Second Hell Tourbus. For compliments, queries and complaints, please see the article 'Welcome to Hell'. |