What did I do to deserve BOMBS at The Free Dove??
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Min Unsung
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Join date: 30 Mar 2005
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08-16-2006 09:05
From: Merlyn Bailly Oh, YES, thank the Lindens for enabling all the poor foreigners (who can't use a credit card to register) to log in and firebomb the grid. You just are incapable of saying anything without comming off like a complete and utter ass. You made the whole conversation about something it wasn't.
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Coyote Momiji
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08-16-2006 09:16
From: Palomma Casanova well, all I know, is that his comment was kinda racial to me too. Not only he bombs my place from next door land, when I tell him to speak english because I didn't understand his language, he took my comment bad and even called me dumb)&^ because I needed to learn French. It is just an abuse in either way. Kinda racial to me and also behavior abuse. I do know two languages (Spanish and English) and I am proud of it. Because I don't know French that doesn't make me a dumb)*(&  & Oh, I agree. I just find Merlyn personally repugnant. And French is bloody DIFFICULT.
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Palomma Casanova
Free Dove Owner
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08-16-2006 09:31
From: Coyote Momiji Oh, I agree. I just find Merlyn personally repugnant.
And French is bloody DIFFICULT. Well, I wasn't insulting foreign people like you did.
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Psyra Extraordinaire
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08-16-2006 09:32
This is why I set my preferences -> Max Particle Count to 128.
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Coyote Momiji
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08-16-2006 09:37
From: Palomma Casanova Well, I wasn't insulting foreign people like you did. ...Excuse me? I don't believe I was the one who was insulting foreign people?
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Palomma Casanova
Free Dove Owner
Join date: 5 Apr 2004
Posts: 635
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08-16-2006 10:12
From: Coyote Momiji ...Excuse me? I don't believe I was the one who was insulting foreign people? Ahh ok, sorry, someone did...  not you
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Coyote Momiji
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08-16-2006 10:12
From: Palomma Casanova Ahh ok, sorry, someone did...  not you It's okay. I was just really, really confused. 
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Carl Metropolitan
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08-16-2006 11:15
Sorry to hear that--the Free Dove is a great resource for new players. I send people there from New Citizens Incoporated all the time.
We have had similar attacks at NCI, too. Generally, they are just hit and run. If push restriction is set to "on" for your land, they bombs can do no real harm--just lag things for a bit. However, you can IM Live Help over a griefer, too. That may (depending on the load) get you an immediate Linden response.
If you do, also file the Abuse Report. And encourage other people there to do so, as well.
I wish I could offer more suggestions.
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Kamilah Hauptmann
Um, what?
Join date: 10 Nov 2005
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08-16-2006 16:04
From: Yuriko Muromachi Then again, considering that statement came from you, I shouldn't be too surprised. Oh Yuriko, just ignore this one. She's sooo far beneath your notice. :| Feed them and they keep coming back. Ignore them and they'll go where people will feed them. ~Kami
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VolatileWhimsy Bu
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08-16-2006 16:06
From: Palomma Casanova I was attacked at The Free Dove !!!!!
Newbies were there, changing and grabbing freebies, all quietly when suddenly fumes of fire all over the store full of newbies. Nobody could see anything. Everything was yellow, orange, black... ALL in the store!!!!!!!!
Everyone was surprised. Tons of Duck Bombs by this strange person that wanted to play a stupid kid game.
Now, I immediately banned him but guess what? The guy had a huge weapon and was shooting from outside my land to inside my store. So he kept doing it and doing it, non stop for around 10-15 minutes.
What do people get from this?
I IMed the person to please stop it!, and suddenly he started talking to me in french. I said, I dont know what he meant in French, to speak english. He said to me, "Learn French Dumb.(*&#&!!!!
Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.... I IMed a Linden but they didn't get to me after 45 minutes later to tell me to report the abuse.
Hmmm, of course that is the main thing I did along with all the other people that reported it.
Would something be done about griefers like this? NO!!!!! why do we have to put up with such a behavior?
I am tired of griefers that don't have anything else to do but bother people.
Would a Peacekeeper Team help on this situations? Reports dont do anything. But you get a "nice" generic email, so you feel that something is been done... RIGHT!!!
Anyway, I dont know what to feel anymore about stuff like this. It is a shame new people that come to SL have to do thru this. New people that really want to play the game right.
If you desire the name of this griefer, please IM me in world, so you can ban him from locations. if im on next time im me and i'll play chase with them, im sure they'll come after someone that is shooting them 
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VolatileWhimsy Bu
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08-16-2006 16:07
From: Nyoko Salome xenophobic jerk.
poor palomma - yadni's junkyard was also griefed up nasty this morning. you're not alone. what does xenophobic mean?
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VolatileWhimsy Bu
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08-16-2006 16:09
From: Merlyn Bailly Oh, YES, thank the Lindens for enabling all the poor foreigners (who can't use a credit card to register) to log in and firebomb the grid. you are a complete ass.. -.-
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Kris Ritter
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08-16-2006 16:24
From: VolatileWhimsy Bu what does xenophobic mean? that you're scared of Galaga clones
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Cow Hand
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08-16-2006 16:39
From: Palomma Casanova Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.... I IMed a Linden but they didn't get to me after 45 minutes later to tell me to report the abuse.
Actually, there are already some IW police forces that would have been happy to respond. Go to search, groups, and type "police". Lock 'em up!
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VolatileWhimsy Bu
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08-16-2006 16:52
From: Kris Ritter that you're scared of Galaga clones ack!
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Leilany LaFollette
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08-16-2006 16:54
From: Merlyn Bailly Oh, YES, thank the Lindens for enabling all the poor foreigners (who can't use a credit card to register) to log in and firebomb the grid. Gawd, you're an idiot. 
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Coyote Momiji
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08-16-2006 17:31
From: Kris Ritter that you're scared of Galaga clones *wipes tea off her screen*
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CrazyMonkey Feaver
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08-16-2006 19:47
Sorry if this was mentioned before but.. Turn off outside scripts if at all possible. The bullets are scripted, so if its off... no boom. (Temporarily I mean, untill bastard dude leaves)
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Merlyn Bailly
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08-16-2006 21:14
From: Yuriko Muromachi And what makes you so sure he's French? I'm not American or British but I can speak English. I can also understand a bit of Spanish and well as Nihonggo, but I'm neither a Spaniard or a Japanese. I also understand that Canadians also can speak/have studied French as well and I'm sure there's more than one American out there in SL who can speak French. Heck that guy could just be spouting Babel Fish crap for all you know. Regardless of that, that doesn't excuse you or justify that remark against 'poor foreigners'. Then again, considering that statement came from you, I shouldn't be too surprised. The OP said he was -- READ THE FREAKIN' THREAD BEFORE YOU SCREAM AT ME.
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Puck Goodliffe
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08-16-2006 21:14
From: Kris Ritter that you're scared of Galaga clones *snort*
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Trimda Hedges
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08-16-2006 21:32
From: Yuriko Muromachi And what makes you so sure he's French? I'm not American or British but I can speak English. I can also understand a bit of Spanish and well as Nihonggo, but I'm neither a Spaniard or a Japanese.
I speak french. Quite fluently when I'm not self concious about it. Does that mean I'm from france or a "frenchie"? Absolutely not! I do speak English too, does that make me from America or England, errrr, wrong. That aside, imho, the original comment about people being allowed into SL without a CC card is absolutely not the issue. Infact the statement is quite ignorant. People wonder why there's such a shnitzle storm in the world today? Ignorant people making ignorant judgements. Now that aside, want to know what drives griefers? From my own experience, griefers have a very low entertainment threshold. For them, the shear reaction is good enough. To see people freaking out provides a great deal of entertainment. These forum posts alone no doubt are creating some good hefty belly chuckles amoung a few individuals. How to deal with a griefer? Well, AR, then straight to Live Help. If a Linden can't come right away, guess you're out of luck. If one can, awesome. For me, I've always been able to get a quick response when griefers causes me trouble. As for "Do I deserve BOMBS ath The Free Dove". Absolutely not but on the other hand, this is not a case of normal behaviour. Aborrant behaviour from individuals like this will always never make sense to the general populous. IMHO, the moment you run an event, get noticed or own an island, you do become a target. Its a risk of doing something big or good. How you deal with the problem will eventually make you either a bigger target or become undesirable. Having said all this, my observations come from operating Spittoonie Island. For the first month, I had daily encounters with griefers, both mild and wild. After the first month, it stopped. Why? I held a 0 tolerance policy and ensured that I kept a direct line with the Lindens if I required their aid. Only once did I call apon them. After dealing effeciently and refusing to give them their much desired reaction, Spittoonie was no longer a desirable target as we both would give them no joy nor give them slack. For those saying "There's more griefing", my response is, you're wrong. Having been in the community as long as I have, and others can attest to this, they've always been around. Who here can remember all of these events: WHat, WWIIOLERs, Mr Fairplay, Jessie Wars and the countless small operators that there were out there over time. Griefers are inherit to the platform. By giving us the tools and the flexibility to create, Linden Lab also empowers the griefers. The rules are there, but there will always be a griefer to either skirt them or break them. This new "Push" toy is only a temp fix, particle bombs (one of the oldest griefing tools around) are back. The moment an easy fix is in place, the next tool will be picked up and used. As for particle bombs, if you enable the debug menu, you can disable particles from there. Just my two cents. My heart goes out to those who suffer from griefers, but once you've experienced them, its up to you on how to learn how to deal with them best.
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Yuriko Muromachi
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08-16-2006 22:48
I IMed the person to please stop it!, and suddenly he started talking to me in french. I said, I dont know what he meant in French, to speak english. He said to me, "Learn French Dumb.(*&#&!!!!
Duh. I did. Did you? She said the guy was speaking in French and told her to learn French. Which part here again said he was French? I know English isn't my first language but geez...is it that bad? Besides even if she did, that still DOES NOT JUSTIFY your earlier statement.
From: Merlyn Bailly The OP said he was -- READ THE FREAKIN' THREAD BEFORE YOU SCREAM AT ME. As usual another not so surprising type of response coming from you. ---As for griefers, there's no real way to do deal with them except use the tools we have right now. I've had my fair share of griefers as of late, but so far my magic formula of make a report, send report, call Linden hasn't failed me yet. Of course it's also twice as effective when you have the sim officer helping to get rid of the griefer. 
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Sybex Wormser
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08-16-2006 22:57
This is exactly why I started an anti rgeifing militia to stop these greifer attacks! just look at my thread to hear another story we must reshape and bring back SL Lindens dont help much so WE must!
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cinda Hoodoo
my 2cents worth
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
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08-16-2006 23:19
A couple weeks ago, a person stopped by our rental area, started spewing racial slurs as i have never heard before. As this is a def TOS violation, i called live help, they said to file an abuse report, i said so you all can bury it for weeks ? A Linden was called in, she said nothing could be done unles an abuse report is filed, this is all in IM, i said come on over you can catch him in the act...she says file the report with copy of the chat..grrrr
Next time i plan on freezing the lil bastards, calling in all the tenants that have weapons and use them for target practice.
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Fade Languish
I just build stuff...
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08-16-2006 23:22
From: Merlyn Bailly The OP said he was -- READ THE FREAKIN' THREAD BEFORE YOU SCREAM AT ME. WE DID THAT'S WHY WE'RE SCREAMING AT YOU.
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