Pre-emptive 1.7 warning: new users and others, read this :)
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Lordfly Digeridoo
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Join date: 21 Jul 2003
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10-23-2005 15:43
Right, so, another point release is upon us. 1.7 will be released on Monday. For those of us who are new, let's go through some pointers: 1) A point release is a Big Deal. It's so big that the Lindens take the entire grid down to work on it. They say it takes about half a day, but from my previous experiences, usually takes the majority of the day to finally get it up and running. 2) Even after the grid is back up, it takes anywhere from 24-48 hours to come back to "normal". this means that textures will load slower, your av will fly more sluggishly, things won't rez as fast, and so forth. It'll be back to normal by Wednesday, barring any horrible crashes on the Grid. 3) Take this time to uninstall SL fully from your computer, including the cache (Located in C:\documents and settings\USER_NAME\Application Data\SecondLife\cache). Also, make sure your video card, motherboard, AGP, and sound drivers are up to date (windows update helps a lot too). This will solve most of your crashes with the new version, as invariably there are new conflicts introduced between the old versions and the new. A reinstall doesn't always get rid of the old version entirely. 4) Be patient. The world was not created in a day, and neither was The Grid. Lindens will be more frazzled tomorrow than normal, so cut 'em some slack. In conclusion, relax, have a beer, enjoy a day without SL.  LF
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Torley Linden
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10-23-2005 15:45
Good advice, LF! And get this ready for 1.8 too! |
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Enabran Templar
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10-23-2005 15:47
Awesome, Lordfly. Good of you to post all of this now. There's a whole hell of a lot of new folks since 1.6. I imagine 1.7 troubles would be pretty intimidating without some expectation setting.
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Oz Spade
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10-23-2005 16:00
Also Teleporting is BOUND to be broken. If it isn't broken, something's wrong.  Almost every point-release has broken teleporting (except I think 1.6). So be prepared to be unable to teleport or to crash or get stuck during teleporting. Also, this doesn't mean you shouldn't bug-report things you find wrong. Please do continue to report any bugs you find. Just don't spazz out.
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Torley Linden
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10-23-2005 16:09
From: Oz Spade Also Teleporting is BOUND to be broken. If it isn't broken, something's wrong. In in awe of how much better Teleporting has been recently, with the Cancel button too. I've had some dreaded stops when the progress bar just goes on FOREVER (more realistically, five minutes) and then knocks me out into a blue void, necessitating a relog—wish it could detect those beforehand. But those have been few and far between, and being someone who TPs frequently, I'm amazed at the improvements. I hope for more. Maybe someday, TPing will be as quick as blinking twice! |
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Eggy Lippmann
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10-23-2005 16:10
Also, as with every major software release, there will be bugs. Heaps of them. Spare us the OMG IT CRASHES threads, we know it's going to crash at least sometimes, but it will get better after a couple of patches. Expect about a patch a week.
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Torley Linden
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10-23-2005 16:13
Fear is understandable. Reactions of fear, on the other hand, can be varied. Might be nice to have a big happy dancing hand-with-eye wearing a top hat and, er, holding a cane, winking in a friendly fashion and encouraging all that things will get smoother.
Hmmm... that's really good idea for an av.
One prob is the MOTD font is way too small. If it was big and in blinking colors, and more casual, it could jive like a krumper.
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Eboni Khan
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10-23-2005 16:34
From: Eggy Lippmann Also, as with every major software release, there will be bugs. Heaps of them. Spare us the OMG IT CRASHES threads, we know it's going to crash at least sometimes, but it will get better after a couple of patches. Expect about a patch a week. You never miss a chance to sound like a pompous asshat. If people want to post threads about crashing and being trapped somewhere, shit not rezing, permissions changes and the like, let them. It is their right. Just dont read the threads. And 1.6 whatever has prepared us for 1.7 today by teleporting 1/2 ass working. |
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Zapoteth Zaius
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10-23-2005 16:39
From: Eboni Khan You never miss a chance to sound like a pompous asshat.
If people want to post threads about crashing and being trapped somewhere, shit not rezing, permissions changes and the like, let them. It is their right. Just dont read the threads.
And 1.6 whatever has prepared us for 1.7 today by teleporting 1/2 ass working. But remember newbies, we're kind, friendly people Spare a thought for us doing the LiveHelp shift tomorow guys  
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Jamie Bergman
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Join date: 17 Feb 2005
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10-23-2005 16:45
Also, everyone should be prepared to field forum posts from impatient and confused nOObs who will scream, "OMFG!!! SL IS TEH WROST AND SOOOOOO BROKE!! WTF!!!"
Those, too, will pass in time.
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Michal Milosz
Amateur Piercer
Join date: 22 Oct 2005
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10-23-2005 17:37
I ponder what will happen tomorrow as the game was struck by a malicious script some 30 minutes ago... Lindens have to clean it up and then follow with an upgrade.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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A Good Day To Chill And Try To Help And Soothe
10-23-2005 17:43
People who have events scheduled should be prepared for some troubles, emotionally prepared, that is.
Right after a new version is a good time to take it easy in SL, chill and chat and try to calm people's nerves, don't expect to build and script and hold events and have it work out like you want.
Good post, Lordfly.
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Sitearm Madonna
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10-23-2005 18:30
ur now my Tech Support Hero... message Noted, Printed, and Posted... ty! From: Lordfly Digeridoo Right, so, another point release is upon us. 1.7 will be released on Monday. For those of us who are new, let's go through some pointers: 1) A point release is a Big Deal. It's so big that the Lindens take the entire grid down to work on it. They say it takes about half a day, but from my previous experiences, usually takes the majority of the day to finally get it up and running. 2) Even after the grid is back up, it takes anywhere from 24-48 hours to come back to "normal". this means that textures will load slower, your av will fly more sluggishly, things won't rez as fast, and so forth. It'll be back to normal by Wednesday, barring any horrible crashes on the Grid. 3) Take this time to uninstall SL fully from your computer, including the cache (Located in C:\documents and settings\USER_NAME\Application Data\SecondLife\cache). Also, make sure your video card, motherboard, AGP, and sound drivers are up to date (windows update helps a lot too). This will solve most of your crashes with the new version, as invariably there are new conflicts introduced between the old versions and the new. A reinstall doesn't always get rid of the old version entirely. 4) Be patient. The world was not created in a day, and neither was The Grid. Lindens will be more frazzled tomorrow than normal, so cut 'em some slack. In conclusion, relax, have a beer, enjoy a day without SL. LF
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Blueman Steele
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grey days ahead
10-23-2005 18:40
oh man lets see how long the "grey days" are this time.. maybe not at all??
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Usagi Musashi
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10-23-2005 18:50
From: Torley Torgeson Good advice, LF! And get this ready for 1.8 too! well thats some sound advice heheheh
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Mystic Soothsayer
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maybe we will get lucky!
10-23-2005 18:51
Maybe we will get lucky and they will apply the patch tonight while cleaning up the griefer guy's mess so we dont have to be without our digital world tomorrow...
<Grins impishly>
ok so I am a true noob, and eternally optomisitc
Mystic
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Hypatia Padar
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10-23-2005 18:57
Thanks for the advice LF!
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Hank Ramos
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10-23-2005 19:02
From: Blueman Steele oh man lets see how long the "grey days" are this time.. maybe not at all?? Grey skies are gonna clear up! Put on a happy face! Spread sunshine all over the place.. And just put on a happy Put on a happy face!  |
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Lordfly Digeridoo
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10-24-2005 06:37
Bump for 1.7 day
ZOMFG WHATS
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Margeaux Mirabeau
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10-24-2005 06:46
Good post Lordfly
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Siobhan Taylor
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10-24-2005 06:47
... and remember, 1.7.1 and maybe 1.7.2 will be out on Tuesday
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Richie Waves
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10-24-2005 06:51
From: Siobhan Taylor ... and remember, 1.7.1 and maybe 1.7.2 will be out on Tuesday LOL! Heres hoping for a smooth update though! Now havent slept in 27 hours time to do some
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Doc Nielsen
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10-24-2005 06:53
Hmmm, does this mean today wouldn't be the best day to install and test my new shiny network vendor system?
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All very well for people to have a sig that exhorts you to 'be the change' - I wonder if it's ever occurred to them that they might be something that needs changing...?
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Lacey Fardel
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10-24-2005 07:02
From: Lordfly Digeridoo Right, so, another point release is upon us. 1.7 will be released on Monday. For those of us who are new, let's go through some pointers: 1) A point release is a Big Deal. It's so big that the Lindens take the entire grid down to work on it. They say it takes about half a day, but from my previous experiences, usually takes the majority of the day to finally get it up and running. 2) Even after the grid is back up, it takes anywhere from 24-48 hours to come back to "normal". this means that textures will load slower, your av will fly more sluggishly, things won't rez as fast, and so forth. It'll be back to normal by Wednesday, barring any horrible crashes on the Grid. 3) Take this time to uninstall SL fully from your computer, including the cache (Located in C:\documents and settings\USER_NAME\Application Data\SecondLife\cache). Also, make sure your video card, motherboard, AGP, and sound drivers are up to date (windows update helps a lot too). This will solve most of your crashes with the new version, as invariably there are new conflicts introduced between the old versions and the new. A reinstall doesn't always get rid of the old version entirely. 4) Be patient. The world was not created in a day, and neither was The Grid. Lindens will be more frazzled tomorrow than normal, so cut 'em some slack. In conclusion, relax, have a beer, enjoy a day without SL. LF Just need clarification. I should uninstall SL and then install it again? When should I do the reinstall? |
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Lordfly Digeridoo
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10-24-2005 07:17
From: Lacey Fardel Just need clarification. I should uninstall SL and then install it again? When should I do the reinstall? I recommend it. SL has a tendency to leave weird bits about your hard drive during crashes, wonky Sim events, and so on. Reinstall when the grid comes back up. LF
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