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Margaret Mfume
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06-26-2005 01:13
Mercy killing is not allowed in my state; just ask Jack Kervorkian.
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Loco Nino
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Join date: 26 Jun 2005
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06-26-2005 01:15
Pretty soon it wont be allowed in sl either... looks like you're enjoying this? Get up and Ride the Pink Poney everyone.
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Margaret Mfume
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Join date: 30 Dec 2004
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06-26-2005 01:15
Ouch... hides lighters from Marg... I think that's enough burning. But it feels so good when it stops! _____________________
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Margaret Mfume
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06-26-2005 01:18
Pretty soon it wont be allowed in sl either... looks like you're enjoying this? Get up and Ride the Pink Poney everyone. Spelling alert! please note that pony was not spelled correctly. Be careful, that will likely get you a ton of posts in this forum. It makes you look bad. You really should use spell check if you want to be in my inner circle of friends. _____________________
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Loco Nino
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Join date: 26 Jun 2005
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06-26-2005 01:19
What can I say? I'm a sleepy boy?
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Margaret Mfume
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Join date: 30 Dec 2004
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06-26-2005 01:22
I guess we should sleep then. But think of all the time zones we could be tapping into for attention? You know, LL doesn't pay near enough attention to the Europeans.
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Loco Nino
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Join date: 26 Jun 2005
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06-26-2005 01:26
yep sleepy time time time
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Margaret Mfume
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06-26-2005 01:27
Before you go, how much $ would you spend on a Lordfly house?
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Loco Nino
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Join date: 26 Jun 2005
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06-26-2005 01:28
First... I'd have to know what a Lordfly house is.
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Margaret Mfume
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06-26-2005 01:29
Say goodnight Gracie.
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Loco Nino
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Join date: 26 Jun 2005
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06-26-2005 01:32
Goodnight Gracie.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
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06-26-2005 01:43
Mmm. Forum griefers.
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Chik-chik-chika-ahh
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Margaret Mfume
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Join date: 30 Dec 2004
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06-26-2005 01:52
No. Show's just over and you missed last call.
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Loco Nino
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Join date: 26 Jun 2005
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06-26-2005 02:06
Pink Pony!
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Kevn Klein
God is Love!
Join date: 5 Nov 2004
Posts: 3,422
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06-26-2005 04:55
How does one add a poster to the ignore list to block a ton of off-topic filler in forum?
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Pendari Lorentz
Senior Member
Join date: 5 Sep 2003
Posts: 4,372
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06-26-2005 06:16
If I'm not mistaken, I get one warning, then a ban. I may be misaken on that point. It is actually not so simple as that. Here is a post from Jeska Linden in the announcements section of the forums. This was the 2nd post in the thread Forum Policy Change /3/ae/50540/1.html Jeska Linden wrote: clarification ---------------------------------------------- I wanted to post further clarification on the new Forum Policy Changes, as there seems to be some confusion surrounding the above announcement. Disciplinary Actions Due to the unification of the in-world and forum discipline policies, forum discipline is now using a similar matrix as is used in-world. This means when a Resident violates the Community Standards or Forum Guidelines, points are recorded and tabulated much as on a driver’s license. The severity of the action and the previous history are both taken under account when assigning points. Much as it is in-world, discipline for the forums is escalated as follows: Warnings 3-Day Suspension 7-Day Suspension 14-Day Suspension, Review for Ban This means that one or more warnings will normally be issued to forum violators before any further disciplinary action is undertaken. Suspension/Banning Clarification If a Resident receives a two-week suspension, Linden Lab automatically initiates a Review for Ban. This escalation to a Ban Review then goes to the Resident Review Panel (read more here ). Very few Residents ever reach this stage of the disciplinary process. Previously Banned Residents To clarify, previously when a Resident was banned solely from the Forums, they were still able to view some of the forums, including the Linden Announcements and the Classifieds. Also, Residents banned from the forums are able to post to the classified forums, although that is a privilege and will be immediately revoked upon any misuse. All previously banned SL Forum Residents will retain these settings going forward. _____________________
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Pendari Lorentz
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Join date: 5 Sep 2003
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06-26-2005 06:22
Did I read the wrong threads? Then please mail to [email]anshe_sb@yahoo.de[/email] Accusation without proof is slander, so please provide proof. Proof is found all over the forums. I don't think you read the wrong threads. You may not have read them all, but I doubt even if you did that you wou would see what many, many others see. So I don't see the point of anyone *trying*. Everything is there in black and blue if you want to form your own opinions. No one can *make* you understand their viewpoint. _____________________
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Ellie Edo
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Join date: 13 Mar 2005
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06-26-2005 06:30
Ulrika can say what she wants - call people trolls, talk about their good or bad English, name people even though it's against the rules to name people - and all that is OKAY. It is "good-natured." It's cute! Why, it's even the GOOD Ulrika. But if I ..... Normally I judge most of your complaining to be groundless, borderline paranoid, Coco. But I think you do have a point here. It is true I have substantial areas of agreement with Ulrika, and find her tone cooperative and friendly. That I have substantial areas of disagreement with you, and normally find your tone uncooperative and aggressive. But this doesn't mean I should apply different standards to you. I hope you can see that I criticised you both equally for flogging on about "bees in the bonnet" which I thought had been well dealt with. And that you noticed me criticise Ulrika when she sank towards personal abuse. What I would feel useful is for us ALL to show more respect, and stop doing these things. We cannot ask for this only from those we disagree with. Fair is fair, and in this instance, Coco, your complaint is I think largely valid. |
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Pendari Lorentz
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06-26-2005 06:30
You're all bark and no bite Ulrika (and I mean that in the best of ways). Even when you were public enemy number one and taking way more than your fair share of abuse you rarely resorted to flat out ad hominem attacks. It's one of the many reasons I admire you. You beat people over the head with logic often, but rarely with invective. Well said Chip! And it was one of the reasons I was able to stand by Ulrika and fight off some of the fire (not that all was underserved... hehe). She gave me a lot of strength during some of those times, and she didn't even know she was doing so.  _____________________
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Pendari Lorentz
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06-26-2005 06:35
In fact, Ulrika should be able to gather a group of like-minded players to help her moderate people on the supposedly much better grounds of deciding whether they want to let said players speak, rather than anything as flimsy as those rules she breaks. Are you refering to Ulrika's post where she gave a "pre-made paragraph" that she urged people to use to inform the Lindens about your posts in this thread? Did anyone actually do this? All I saw was most posters in this thread saying they didn't agree with Ulrika on that suggestion. I know I didn't agree either. I'm sure *most* did not (though a couple may have - though I can imagine they were already thinking it themselves without Ulrika's help). _____________________
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Chip Midnight
ate my baby!
Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 10,231
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06-26-2005 07:53
Before I go, I want to leave you with this portion of the definition of "troll" from the Wikipedia, a portion that rarely gets quoted: "As a pejorative, the term 'troll' may also be a slander of opponents in heated debates, a tactic often used by trolls and non-trolls. Many times a person will post a sincere message that they are emotionally sensitive about and trolls know that the easiest way to upset them is to falsely claim that they are a troll." I'd say the term can also apply to someone who takes a rational and reasoned debate and personalizes it to try and turn it in to a heated debate. _____________________
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Jonquille Noir
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Join date: 17 Jan 2004
Posts: 4,025
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06-26-2005 08:18
Are you refering to Ulrika's post where she gave a "pre-made paragraph" that she urged people to use to inform the Lindens about your posts in this thread? Did anyone actually do this? All I saw was most posters in this thread saying they didn't agree with Ulrika on that suggestion. I know I didn't agree either. I'm sure *most* did not (though a couple may have - though I can imagine they were already thinking it themselves without Ulrika's help). Whether others agreed with Ulrika or not is beside the point. She still did it, and it was still a shitty thing to do. _____________________
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Ellie Edo
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Join date: 13 Mar 2005
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06-26-2005 08:49
Whether others agreed with Ulrika or not is beside the point. She still did it, and it was still a shitty thing to do. Maybe I have a moral blind-spot on this, Jonquille. it seems to me that any of us can suggest anything we like to each other, and to LL, ouside these forums. Inside these forums, where rules apply, things are a bit more restricted, but any suggestion backed up by an even semi-reasonable justification can surely be put up for consideration. To suggest some sort of "punishment" for a claimed badly behaving player may not be a crime, but more an attempt to get the group to collectively discourage anti-social behaviour. This might happen quite naturally if we were all sat round a table. Remember these can never be more than suggestions, unless you think we are all sheep. As hitting the AR button can never be more than a suggestion. It is this "suggestion only" element that stops it being so "shitty" in my opinion. If someone is regularly pissing off most people in a group, maybe its not so bad to suggest ways for the group to make that clear to them, and ultimately to maybe suggest they go somewhere else. Only "suggest" mind you. No-one but the management can decide. Please note these are general comments on forum behaviour, triggered for consideration by, but otherwise unrelated to, the specifics of Ulrika v Coco. |
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Kevn Klein
God is Love!
Join date: 5 Nov 2004
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06-26-2005 09:15
I don't think anyone needs to be told to report another. If it appears someone is disruptive, those who feel the urge to AR a forum poster will do it without a call for a group attack. Worse yet, the suggestion even includes exact wording to use in a complaint. As if the others in a forum are too dumb to know when and how to report a disrupting poster.
It seems to me anyone calling for others to AR a poster believes we need her/his prodding to know when to report. Then to give exact wording is an insult to the intellegence of others posting here. I'm sure some people think they are smarter then everyone else, and that us lowly posters need assistance understanding the need to report other people. It's arrogant at the very least.... but that's only my opinion. I doubt my opinion matters though |
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Jonquille Noir
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Join date: 17 Jan 2004
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06-26-2005 09:18
It is this "suggestion only" element that stops it being so "shitty" in my opinion. If someone is regularly pissing off most people in a group, maybe its not so bad to suggest ways for the group to make that clear to them, and ultimately to maybe suggest they go somewhere else. Only "suggest" mind you. No-one but the management can decide. My opinion differs. When someone tries to get others to gang up on one person, it's schoolyard bullying, and it's shitty. If you have a problem with someone's posts that you consider to be a violation of the forum rules, report them. If you think someone needs to shut the hell up about how mistreated they were and stop being such a damn crybaby, then tell them so. Posting a public suggestion for others to report them, including a handy little speech to use in the process, is an intimidation tactic to try and silence them, and a transperant one at that. You may have been fooled, but I wasn't. _____________________
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