LOLOLOL Good luck with that....
No shit, what a fucking joke. Sorry Yiffy
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
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08-24-2006 15:51
No shit, what a fucking joke. Sorry Yiffy _____________________
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Lost Newcomb
Registered User
Join date: 23 Jun 2006
Posts: 666
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08-24-2006 15:56
Hey Yiffy, e-mail Torley directly, that helps faster usually... and wtfbbq kind of response is that on answers.
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Margaret Mfume
I.C.
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 2,492
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08-24-2006 15:58
OMFG as if i hadnt already done this.. Cmon lindens i need a answer... /139/7d/132415/1.html Sorry Yiffy. We do not discuss abuse issues publically. You really do need to cantact [email]abuse-manager@lindenlab.com[/email] for more information or to dispute the action. _____________________
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
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08-24-2006 16:00
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Margaret Mfume
I.C.
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
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08-24-2006 16:03
I added this question to Answers as well: /139/5a/132489/1.html#post1248725/139/5a/132489/1.html#post1248725 What kind of question is that, Cris? You clearly stated that you already know the answer in your previous post.  _____________________
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Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
Join date: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 2,802
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08-24-2006 16:10
Hey Yiffy, e-mail Torley directly, that helps faster usually... and wtfbbq kind of response is that on answers. Ah yea i forgot about that hehe EDIT: <Hours later> Torley must be asleep.  _____________________
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Musicteacher Rampal
Registered User
Join date: 20 Feb 2004
Posts: 824
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08-24-2006 20:22
...and closing the forums will ensure that "we" do not discuss this or any other issue we have with LL's policies and procedures publicly, eh Kelly? this is what scares me about the forum closures. We won't be able to get help from e/o about what to do, and we will have less options for getting help and responses from the Lindens. |
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viggo Matzerath
War Monger
Join date: 10 May 2006
Posts: 50
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08-24-2006 23:24
I think it's the hat.. way out of season!! \ rofl |
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Macphisto Angelus
JAFO
Join date: 21 Oct 2004
Posts: 5,831
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08-25-2006 00:27
this is what scares me about the forum closures. We won't be able to get help from e/o about what to do, and we will have less options for getting help and responses from the Lindens. Agreed. We will all die of old age before they admit a bug is real once it goes to a blog system. Help Dept: Nope, that is just being experienced by you. Clean the cache and bake those cookies. Blog: Nope, that is not something we have an issue with in world. Customer: Well, I guess it IS just me experiencing this. Mission accomplished. _____________________
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Lewis Nerd
Nerd by name and nature!
Join date: 9 Oct 2005
Posts: 3,431
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08-25-2006 01:05
I can see Linden Lab's telephone system getting swamped when the forums are obliterated.
Mind you, I've never managed to get a human yet whenever I've called, and of course they never call me back, possibly because I'm overseas, possibly because they never actually listen to the messages and action them. Customer service must improve in so many ways it's not even funny. When people are paying for a service, ie playing the game, we are entitled to support, and if it isn't there people will just either quit, or give up trying to fix it - both losing much needed revenue for Linden Lab. It is in their own interests to keep us happy. One dissatisfied customer can do a lot of damage if they have contacts in the right places to spread it. Lewis _____________________
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CJ Carnot
Registered User
Join date: 23 Oct 2005
Posts: 433
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08-25-2006 01:41
I'm sure there's nothing wrong with your profile, but if Linden Lab won't tell you what exactly they think was offensive, how do they expect you to know what to change it to make it acceptable ? Good grief. Kafkaesque indeed.
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Jessica Elytis
Goddess
Join date: 7 Oct 2005
Posts: 1,783
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08-25-2006 05:21
This may sound like a joke, but I'm quite serious in this.
Copy/Paste the e-mail onto an Abuse Report and AR the Abuse Team for harassment. From all I can see, it's either one big mistake, or harrassement from not doing thier job to find out the real facts. I'm betting someone doesn't like furries, or that you happened to tick some idiot griefer group off by getting them banned, and they filed false AR's agaisnt you. I'm thinking that a vast number of AR's on the same thing are looked at by the AT and those are the ones they act on. If so, they really should look into things better. Quite frankly, I think LL needs to take a "hands off" attitude toward profiles and group information. If a person is offened by such, don't read it again ffs. We're all 18+ anyway, right? *looks at the Open Enrollment policy of LL*  And before LL, or LL advocates state that the profiles and group info go to the internet....well, stop that!! Geeze! How hard would it have been to fix that "Mature" option in profiles rather than just deleting it? ~Jessy _____________________
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Luthien Unsung
Registered User
Join date: 13 Feb 2005
Posts: 409
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08-25-2006 06:15
Oh Yiffy you naughty thang! What did you have hidden in there is some kind of encrypted code that someone worked out?
lol! Support Second Life: Notice of Disciplinary Action Inbox Dear Yiffy Yaffle, Linden Lab individually investigates the circumstances of every Abuse Report we receive. Following a careful review of our server records and logs, we have determined that your recent actions violated the Second Life Community Standards or Terms of Service. The violation in question occurred on July 16, 2006 in the region of Dore. Violation: Indecency: Global Standards: Profile Resident profiles, as a global feature visible to all users, must adhere to the community standards that are defined for a PG sim. Please ensure that your profile is in compliance with the PG standards. The rules of conduct are interpreted with the broadest meaning possible. Discipline No additional action is being taken at this time. Recourse If you believe that this notice has been sent in error, or that the details of this incident have not been adequately examined, please address your concerns in an email to [email=abuse-manager@lindenlab.com]abuse-manager@lindenlab.com[/email] We will not disclose the identity of Residents who file Abuse Reports. Sincerely, Linden Lab --- Yiffy Yaffle Can you explain to me how my profile violates TOS? I do now have anything rude or sexual on it as far as i know. O.o --- Yiffy Yaffle It also puzzles me how whatever i did wrong voilates the TOS when you let griefers run around causing mayham without any punishment what so ever. --- WTF is Linden Lab doing? My profile is clean. I never have voilated any TOS... Get your heads out of your <Butts> LL... _____________________
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Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
Join date: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 2,802
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08-25-2006 07:16
Second Life being free now doesn't excuse it from having to have customer support. I give away a free vendor kit in world. I still offer support on this free vendor kit reguardless to the fact i gain nothing from it. The only difference here is that my kit is open source and second life isn't.
I'm still putting my neck out to help people set this vendor up. It was a promise i made in the help files that came with it. Most the time it's a simple fix. Once in a while i have to fix a code or two. But atleast "I" give people customer support about my products. I still have yet to hear from LL about this issue. _____________________
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Tremaine Chamerberlin
Registered User
Join date: 9 May 2006
Posts: 18
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08-25-2006 11:42
Second Life being free now doesn't excuse it from having to have customer support. I give away a free vendor kit in world. I still offer support on this free vendor kit reguardless to the fact i gain nothing from it. The only difference here is that my kit is open source and second life isn't. I'm still putting my neck out to help people set this vendor up. It was a promise i made in the help files that came with it. Most the time it's a simple fix. Once in a while i have to fix a code or two. But atleast "I" give people customer support about my products. I still have yet to hear from LL about this issue. That is the answer right there... you helped someone with a problem and ticked off some anonymous person who doesn't like helpful people. |
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jrrdraco Oe
Insanity Fair
Join date: 28 Oct 2005
Posts: 372
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08-25-2006 15:05
Perhaps it's the name "Yiffy" and the connortations attached to it? Broccoli No, I am sure the problem is the word "Profile" and all the connotations attached to it. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
Join date: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 2,802
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08-25-2006 15:59
It must be my last name. Yaffle.
Yaffle meens Woodpecker. And well Pecker is a bad word.  _____________________
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Toni Bentham
M2 Fashion Editor
Join date: 26 Jan 2006
Posts: 560
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08-25-2006 16:01
It must be my last name. Yaffle. Yaffle meens Woodpacker. And well Pecker is a bad word. But Linden Labs created your last name, so if that was the problem, surely they'd all have to ban themselves......ahhh! This is turning into a metaphyiscal issue! _____________________
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VolatileWhimsy Bu
Registered User
Join date: 27 Jun 2006
Posts: 1,492
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08-25-2006 16:04
well you do have alot of ratings, maybe they are talking about that?
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Cocoanut Koala
Coco's Cottages
Join date: 7 Feb 2005
Posts: 7,903
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08-25-2006 16:12
I would like to know what the problem with your profile is. I haven't been able to access it myself yet to try to find out.
But I am SICK TO DEATH of this whopping people over the head with punishments for things that they won't even tell you what the thing you've supposed done wrong IS. How this EVER got considered a good system by ANYONE with the capacity to think at ALL is a complete mystery to me. I have never heard of a system where you get punished so vaguely - or where, when you ask what it was, they refuse to tell you. (Well, I've heard of some, but they are in societies not considered good.) I hope you get this cleared up. coco P.S. They need to change their policy - instead of always replying, "We can't discuss discipline actions in the forums," they ought to just be honest and say, "We won't even discuss your discipline action with you. Ever. Don't ask. Whatever you were doing, just stop doing all of it. That way you'll stop doing the wrong thing." grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr _____________________
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Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
Join date: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 2,802
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08-25-2006 17:01
Yea it definatly needs to change. I meen lets say John Doe (made up character) gets a email from linden lab saying he has voilated the TOS. John never leaves his own sim he pays for. He barely has any visitors. He logs in once a day to make sure his friends that share the sim are ok. When he reads his email he wanders what he did wrong. Any linden he asks cannot help him and tell him to talk to abuse_manager.
He attempts to email the abuse_manager and nothing comes back in replies for several days except the automated reply and a servey. He calls LL, and finds they can't tell him what he did and tell him to email abuse_manager again. At this point john is tearing his hair out. Now hes worried about losing his account so he sells his sim to one of his friends and gives away his stuff before it's lost. A month later he gets a breif email from LL saying his case was resolved and no action is being taken. He still doesn't know what he did, and he never will. How is john suppost to learn from this if he doesn't know what he did wrong? In a way it's kinda like Killing someone as punishment for a crime. That person will never "learn their lesson" since they wil no longer be alive to do it. The problem here is we have a abuse report system that anyone can use as a weapon against anyone. Same as Negative Ratings used to be. I remember griefers used to pay newbies to negative rate random people all over the grid. Perhaps the same thing is going on with abuse reports? Since abuse_manager is automated and brainless it just goes with the flow and sends out emails. _____________________
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Frost White
Second Life Resident
Join date: 3 Nov 2004
Posts: 44
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08-25-2006 17:09
AbuseManager Linden: Hey i'm not brainless! o.o 001110101001111111010101011
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Lost Newcomb
Registered User
Join date: 23 Jun 2006
Posts: 666
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08-25-2006 17:15
Yea it definatly needs to change. I meen lets say John Doe (made up character) gets a email from linden lab saying he has voilated the TOS. John never leaves his own sim he pays for. He barely has any visitors. He logs in once a day to make sure his friends that share the sim are ok. When he reads his email he wanders what he did wrong. Any linden he asks cannot help him and tell him to talk to abuse_manager. He attempts to email the abuse_manager and nothing comes back in replies for several days except the automated reply and a servey. He calls LL, and finds they can't tell him what he did and tell him to email abuse_manager again. At this point john is tearing his hair out. Now hes worried about losing his account so he sells his sim to one of his friends and gives away his stuff before it's lost. And with the lack of the forums, imagine how many John Doe's would silently just cease to exist. _____________________
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Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
Join date: 18 Jun 2003
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08-25-2006 20:06
Personally, I think LL has stopped taking it's medication.
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Nyx Divine
never say never!
Join date: 11 Dec 2004
Posts: 1,052
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08-25-2006 21:54
this is what scares me about the forum closures. We won't be able to get help from e/o about what to do, and we will have less options for getting help and responses from the Lindens. I can only assume that is the goal _____________________
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