Telehub Taxi?

SL has a lot of vehicles; it has space for one more taxi. Traven has explained himself nicely.

Also, this idea of having a bunch of taxis is pretty silly. Sure, it might come to pass, and it might be a problem when it does. But it's kind of silly to prevent something just 'cause it might cause harm.

I've got a big kitchen knife.

Traven, I am curious, when people take the taxi, and it takes them to your land, what's on your land?

My 'Wonkavator' has been near the Isabel hub long before this issue came to the forefront, and I haven't heard anything but positive comments about it. Some people fly back and forth between the Shelter and the Isabel Hub just to ride the damn thing.

Because I live in the sim it operates in, it was designed to be as lag-free as possible. The Wonkavator itself sits passive unless someone interacts with it, and uses no Physics, sensors or listeners. (The first incarnation of it did use a listener, so folks could 'call' it).

Agreed about the potential Tragedy of the Commons. But it's not uncommon to find an army of shuttle busses at Airports in RL. Why don't we have a tragedy of the commons there? I think that's because only a smaller subset of buisnesses actually benefit from having a Shuttle Bus at the airport. I think something similar holds true in SL.

I think that if it does get out of control, the invisible hand (Linden) will step in and correct the situation through either regulation or restriction. But I don't think we're anywhere close to being there yet.

Oh no! Are there a bunch of mad scientists running experiments at the hubs now! (hehe, sorry, couldn't resist)

1. If it really is causing lag, that's a valid concern.

2. Last I saw it whispered and was no worse than the nearby Tringo shouts.

3. Taxis shouldn't block your passage. On the ground that could become an issue. As for the sky, it's big and they move fast.

As for the constant flow of these things:

1. I believe they pop straight up, then go across sim, then go straight down. That's how all of these should work. Don't go through other people's structures. Flight at 1000m is fine.

2. It's telehub land. Isn't telehub land bought because it's expected to be busy and not because the buyer wants some nice, quite, out of the way little corner? Sure, buyers expect it to be busy with people and not taxis, but I don't see how its anymore laggy, chatty, or annoying then *ingo neighbors.

HP

and it runs to whos land ? So your saying I can rez one on my land and have it fly to your place and pick people up...what a lovely idea! My Taxi will soon be visiting your land

Bri - Just to head off a potential AR - you really can't do that, man. Linden Land is considered 'The Commons' - which means that it belongs to everyone, and no one at the same time.

Sending a taxi onto private property wont help your argument, and might only serve to get you abuse reported as a griefer. Same goes with passing out unsolicited notecards, unfortunately.

However...

If I were in your situation, and frustrated like you are - I would be making my own taxi that picks folks up at the telehub, and brings them to your location. Have it rez right next to (but not interfering with) the taxi that's already there.

Because you *are* in the same sim, you have the luxury of using a much simpler, and less laggy script to accomplish this. For that matter, you could even send a passive "Teleporter" to your location from the hub - providing you're within 300m.

If you make yours cooler looking, and more compelling - your customers will be more apt to ride/use it.

Also, just from my own experience:

Taxi's don't bring much in the way of additional people to my place that didn't already intend to go there in the first place. In my case at least, its primary function is to make travel easier for those who are already trying to get to my destination.

For this reason, I don't think your customers are going to get pulled away by this thing. If your customers are at that telehub, its because they're trying to get to *you*.

And a taxi of your own might just help facilitate that.

Governor Linden's Land.....

Gasp! HERE IT IS FOLKS! He let it slip... now we know who the real Governor Linden might be!!

/sarcasm off

Causing lag? When it's in the process of llSleep(45) at the hub? Explain how please. I'm always willing to learn something new. I've been told that it causes no appreciable server load even when in motion, by someone I've absolute faith in - A Linden (no names).



Which telehub is your store at and what's it caled Angel. I'd be happy to adjust the unit so that it's quieter or perhaps silent depending on how close you actually are to it. As to just putting objects there - that's not possible - and if my taxi stayed longer than 45 seconds it would be in danger of being returned to my inventory (assuming autoreturn is enabled at the hub).



More power to them! LOL!



And a welcome 2 cents it is... like I said - I'm always willing to learn

Lets see... a big tower with apartments for rent (for which I charge very little)

.... about 8 vending machines with odds and ends I sell..
.... a huge 2560m park with birds and butterflies, trees, a couple fountains, flowers.... for people to relax in....
... MORE TAXIS's that go elsewhere.... LOL
... somehere around 700m ABOVE the taxi stand is my helipad where I keep different piloted vehicles I like to fly in.

... depending on the time of day.... ME I'm usually in world between 5pm and 11pm SL time btw.

Frankly what I'd like to do is remove the 'Taxi Stand' from my place and build a stand alone taxi station, but for now its convenient to have it there. I'm actually considering putting it up in the air someplace so I'm not always watching the taxis take off and land - it is intended to be more of a transfer point than anything else

Then I'd have a better chance of getting to the someplace else without having to wait for 3000 textures from all the shops around the telehub that I'm never going to actually visit to finish downloading, so I can see my way around all the shops and skyboxes and get the heck out of there.

It'd be nice if the taxi itself wasn't so butt-ugly, though.

Yeh, that stuff pisses me off, too. PLUS it's using llSensor so it's adding to lag. I get that stupid wecome notecard every time I go anywhere near Ahern because the nearest telehub is in the Welcome Area and ... hold on, isn't that run by the Lindens?

If they're passive llSitTarget-based teleporters (of either type) with no active listens and touch-only controls they won't lag you any more than so many unscripted prims.

If they do get to be a clutter problem, then organize a "taxi rank" off to the side of the telehub.

Depends on how you do P2P. If you P2P to a landmark, a landmark is a 3-dimensional location. If you want more control... maybe you should have to drop a prim and have a script in that prim call "llTeleportTarget(string targetName, vector targetOffset, rotation targetRot)" and when someone does a P2P teleport they get a list of nearby targets or go to the closest... they only go direct to the spot if there's no targets in range. that way you can put a target at your front door to keep people from teleporting into your living room.

Check the teleporters at Abbots Aerodrome, too. I love the way they crumple you up into a ball. I believe both the Ring System and the Abbots Aerodrome teleporters can be purchased.

Argent - if you want to take a shot at designing a low prim model that you think looks nice - do so and send me a full mod/copy version of it and I'll toss an engine in it and use it for some.

The ones at Abbots are the cubey terra model and they're FREE! Check SLExchange.

Oman your just too smart...pffftt I'm slowly buying up the entire sim for one purpose.

TO KEEP A LAG FREE HUB. Do you see any HUGE mall ?...NO

Will there be a HUGE LAGGY MALL WHILE I OWN THE LAND ?...NO

Am I going to complain when someone from another sim adds lag...HELL YEAH I AM !

When I finish buying all the land here I will have spent over $3500 USD and your damn straight I don't want it lagging from some twit in another sim! *growls*

Good luck. No no... seriously.....

Personally I'm focusing on an Island of my own.

Oh, and you'll be happy to know I'll be installing a revised - more efficient engine in the taxi tonite with cleaner quieter code - just finished testing it at my research facility in another sim. The code is about 1/3 the size and runs much smoother. And all taxi responses are using llWhisper for the passengers. Amazing what a 'while' loop and some conveniently placed 'float' variables can do. This LSL stuff is proving to be quite fun to work with.

Eek! Ack oop! Phppt! o_O,,, (Bill the Cat smiley)

You want something low-prim, that looks appropriate for a "taxi" both when it's just sitting there and when someone sits on it, and looks good?

I'll cons something up, but I'll bet you have half a dozen other people dropping objects on you long before I get home... ^_^;;; (Anime sweatdrop smiley)

We already HAVE a "landing point" option on our plots... and it does Z axis, too.

The answer to that problem (as well as "people rezzing in your living room" is really very simple: when you TP to a plot, the server checks the data for that plot and checks the landing point. When you TP in, you always end up on the landing point, no matter where you actually clicked when you initiated the teleport.

while I think it's nice to roam once in a while, I think the telehubs are more of a liability at this point than a benefit. I especially hate the telehubs with a roof... I can't just hit the "pop up to 300 meters" button on my flight pack.

The many many times this has been discussed, I've never seen a single Linden reply on the subject and never known that any telehub roof was either removed or, at least, phantomed.

Where's that hotline link...

I recently received a reply in private message after I pointed out that the welcome area violated their telehub guidelines, by not leaving an clear path to the outside. It wasn't exactly a rousing "we'll take care of it", but they did say they'd look into it.

Cautiously hopeful.

For Koolhaas Tringo?

Oh, geez. You're running a Tringo game and you're worried about one passive non-physical low-lag script that runs two times every six minutes.

Here's the answer from the Content Team.

I like jumping from rooftop to rooftop at the welcome area, if they are turned phantom, so much for that.

Why have roofs that block the view and won't hold you up either? If you want to fly out don't just phantom the roof, delete it entirely.

The Welcome Area is a special case. People don't generally use it as a telehub except to go to Darkwood or Lusk. The concern is more for hubs that serve as waypoints. The ones we all generally fly straight up from as quickly as possible to get away from the overwhelming texture load so that we can reach our desired destination some time that day.