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Kendra Bancroft
Rhine Maiden
Join date: 17 Jun 2004
Posts: 5,813
10-20-2005 10:38
From: Cristiano Midnight
See I've always more considered you to be the inexplicable bar that they put on boy's bikes that seems only to serve the purpose of making boys very uncomfortable when they stop suddenly and go flying off the seat ;)



Nope. That's Ulrika. I think you're that tin bell on the handle bars though.
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Zapoteth Zaius
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Posts: 5,634
10-20-2005 10:40
Ok.. I'm not gonna compare the forums to training wheels coz, I don't have the brain power to spare :p

All I know is.. I've met some great people on the forums I wouldn't have met otherwise, I found it a great place to ask stupid newbie questions when I first started (and to this day for that matter :p ), its the easiest way to talk to a large amount of people at once (pass ideas about etc).

And tones more stuff..

If anyone can come up with a benificial reason to close the forums that outweights all that (in my eyes anyway), you've got my name down :p
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Eggy Lippmann
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Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 7,939
10-20-2005 10:43
From: Khamon Fate
On the surface, these forums are highly damaging to Linden Lab's and Second Life's reputations. A casual browser is left with the impressions that LL is wholly unorganized and that the majority of us are self-centered whiney butts.

Looks about right to me ;)
Sherrianne Hailey
Registered User
Join date: 21 Apr 2005
Posts: 71
10-20-2005 10:44
From: Gabe Lippmann
Forums: SL :: peas: chicken pot pie

:cool:

What is with the pie all the time? You guys have pie on the brain.

mmm, pie.
Travis Lambert
White dog, red collar
Join date: 3 Jun 2004
Posts: 2,819
10-20-2005 10:49
Hrm.... I gotta agree with Zap too. I've met a lot of great people in the forums - its almost like my daytime SecondLife client while I'm at work. It'd be a huge black hole for me if it was suddenly gone, with no replacement of any kind.

Then again, I would get a lot more work done at the office :D
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Annah Zamboni
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Join date: 2 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,022
10-20-2005 11:00
All drama and BS aside, I think the forums are an excellent way for LL and customers to exchange ideas. Until the in world tools are there for this type of communication I think we need the forums (or at least a segment of them). People that work for LL are probably very busy and having stuff posted on the forums is a way for them to read them at their leisure as opposed to a barrage of IM's in world. Too often things like FAQ and the like explain things one way and often leave out alot of details. And I know posts in the forums here by others have saved me a ton of time because the FAQ or in game 'help' was inadequate or worded poorly. And I know some people will say "Only a small portion of the user base visits the forums", well I say thats not an excuse to remove them because Im one of those people that will find out information here and anytime I see someone else struggling with the same issues in world, I'll take 5, 10 or 30+ minutes explaining what I've learned about the subject to help them out. Just my opinion.
Torley Linden
Enlightenment!
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 16,530
10-20-2005 11:06
If the SL Forums, a part of me dies and I don't want that to happen! :(
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Einsman Schlegel
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Join date: 11 Jun 2003
Posts: 1,461
10-20-2005 11:09
I think we all agree its unavoidable. If you looked at most MMORPG sites, their forums suffered the same fate, and left it up to the users. Even though Second Life isn't classified as such, I'd expect these Forums to be the same, as with everything else, LL has dropped public support for most things EXCEPT the Forums.

I'd expect the Forums fate the same soon as well.
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Martin Magpie
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10-20-2005 11:18
From: Einsman Schlegel
I think we all agree its unavoidable. If you looked at most MMORPG sites, their forums suffered the same fate, and left it up to the users. Even though Second Life isn't classified as such, I'd expect these Forums to be the same, as with everything else, LL has dropped public support for most things EXCEPT the Forums.

I'd expect the Forums fate the same soon as well.



Honestly I think the simple fact that there is no money to be made off the fourms for LL directly will in the end close the forums. Sorry if that sounds harsh but I am a realist these days. I only have their history to go on and it seems the next logical step.

Mar
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Annah Zamboni
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10-20-2005 11:19
From: Einsman Schlegel
I'd expect the Forums fate the same soon as well.

I disagree. The main reason is that the SL users help CREATE the world we live in while MMORPG players play within a world the devs create with very little customization; I feel we need more interaction than a normal MMORPG. Sure LL creates the boundaries and rules but we create the most of the world and its content.
Einsman Schlegel
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10-20-2005 11:21
From: Martin Magpie
Honestly I think the simple fact that there is no money to be made off the fourms for LL directly will in the end close the forums. Sorry if that sounds harsh but I am a realist these days. I only have their history to go on and it seems the next logical step.

Mar


Not being harsh at all, I was being realistic also. I honestly don't see what point it is to keep these Forums up, since 99% of it, is drama related anyway.
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10-20-2005 11:24
From: Einsman Schlegel
Not being harsh at all, I was being realistic also. I honestly don't see what point it is to keep these Forums up, since 99% of it, is drama related anyway.



Thanks Eins :) I agree with this last statement also.

Mar
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Annah Zamboni
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10-20-2005 11:26
From: Einsman Schlegel
Not being harsh at all, I was being realistic also. I honestly don't see what point it is to keep these Forums up, since 99% of it, is drama related anyway.

I disagree again. :) 99% of the forums are not drama. I would say 99% of the drama on the forums are created by a handfull of people though. When I come to the forums for help or shopping or whatever, I usually dont find drama. If I come to the forums just to waste time and read random threads, sure I'll run into some drama. But guess what, its the same old people and my brain just skims over their 'contributions' to the forums. There are alot of good people, information and stories on these forums, but much like the news people only focus on the bad.
SuezanneC Baskerville
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Join date: 22 Dec 2003
Posts: 14,229
10-20-2005 11:53
We will soon have eliminated most of the classifieds forum.

The next thing that needs to get the ax is the sticky at the top of the general forums that directs people to the SL Real World Get Together forum.

Perhaps this sticky should be moved to the inworld classifieds.
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Euterpe Roo
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10-20-2005 12:35
From: Einsman Schlegel
Not being harsh at all, I was being realistic also. I honestly don't see what point it is to keep these Forums up, since 99% of it, is drama related anyway.


Yes, but what about the remaining 1% of utter coolness that emerges from these discussions? I have the honor of meeting many of the 'forums regulars'--they are an astoundingly intelligent and creative group of people. Some really good things come from all of this yammering.

As Annah points out, the fourms, though not a direct contributor to LL's bottom line, are a strikingly efficient customer-service tool. In the long run, LL stands to recoup much more than Jeska's (and the other moderators') salaries.

(Mem is Topps!) :D
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Cocoanut Koala
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10-20-2005 12:41
Bear in mind, too, that this web-on-a-prim, if and when it comes, will be usable only by people with at least 526 or whatever it is memory.

I won't be able to use it, having only 256 k memory.

Bear in mind, too, that to be able to use that not only requires that you be in the game, but requires that you have broadband of some kind. (Did I use that term correctly?) When my cable is down like it is half the time, I can still access the forums through dial-up. (Not to mention I don't have to try and read everything while I'm in the game.)

Not sure if all that actually made sense.

But in any case: The idea should NEVER be to close down optional forms of communication. The idea should never be that one form is so dandy that the others can all go away. The idea should always be that the more communication, and the more forms of it and means of it, the better.

After all, you don't notice all the other businesses in the world shutting down their web site, because they think it would be more "immersive" for their customers to go into the store to see what is available, or go into the YMCA to sign up for the course they want.

They go for offering the most options, and the best chance at the most communication.

I find it kind of ironic that an online game/platform/okra company would be in any way anxious to get rid of their website presence, including the forums that even other businesses not associated with gaming also offer on their websites.

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Enabran Templar
Capitalist Pig
Join date: 26 Aug 2004
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10-20-2005 12:45
From: Cocoanut Koala
I won't be able to use it, having only 256 k memory.


I'm not sure you'd even be able to run a graphical operating system with 256k of memory. I think keyboards have more RAM than that.

edit: surely those new laser mice do.

edit 2: Ahahaha, though it occurs to me that if your machine has only 256k of memory you'd be unable to log into SL at all. And this used as an explanation for your views amuses me in quite an unusual way!
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Kendra Bancroft
Rhine Maiden
Join date: 17 Jun 2004
Posts: 5,813
10-20-2005 12:46
From: Cocoanut Koala
Bear in mind, too, that this web-on-a-prim, if and when it comes, will be usable only by people with at least 526 or whatever it is memory.

I won't be able to use it, having only 256 k memory.

Bear in mind, too, that to be able to use that not only requires that you be in the game, but requires that you have broadband of some kind. (Did I use that term correctly?) When my cable is down like it is half the time, I can still access the forums through dial-up. (Not to mention I don't have to try and read everything while I'm in the game.)

Not sure if all that actually made sense.

But in any case: The idea should NEVER be to close down optional forms of communication. The idea should never be that one form is so dandy that the others can all go away. The idea should always be that the more communication, and the more forms of it and means of it, the better.

After all, you don't notice all the other businesses in the world shutting down their web site, because they think it would be more "immersive" for their customers to go into the store to see what is available, or go into the YMCA to sign up for the course they want.

They go for offering the most options, and the best chance at the most communication.

I find it kind of ironic that an online game/platform/okra company would be in any way anxious to get rid of their website presence, including the forums that even other businesses not associated with gaming also offer on their websites.

coco


I am now convinced of the rightness of my quest.



who shall follow me!?
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Enabran Templar
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Join date: 26 Aug 2004
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10-20-2005 12:48
From: Kendra Bancroft
I am now convinced of the rightness of my quest.

who shall follow me!?


I'll follow you because I think much amusement will rise in your wake. :)
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Furthermore, as Second Life goes to the Metaverse, and this becomes an open platform, Linden Lab risks lawsuit in court and [attachment culling] will, I repeat WILL be reverse in court.


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MJ Hathor
Purple Butterfly
Join date: 17 Mar 2005
Posts: 901
10-20-2005 12:49
From: Einsman Schlegel
Not being harsh at all, I was being realistic also. I honestly don't see what point it is to keep these Forums up, since 99% of it, is drama related anyway.



If the SL forums close there is always SLUniverse :)

MJ
Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 8,616
10-20-2005 12:49
From: Cocoanut Koala
Bear in mind, too, that this web-on-a-prim, if and when it comes, will be usable only by people with at least 526 or whatever it is memory.

I won't be able to use it, having only 256 k memory.


Cocoanut,

You really should consider adding 256megs more of memory to your computer. 256megs is the bare minimum that just Windows XP runs comfortably on, and then, barely so if you have more than one program running. Upgrading to 512megs of memory would improve your computer experience overall, whether it be browsing the web, playing SL, or writing a document in Microsoft Word. Memory prices are very cheap. If you ever want assistance finding the right memory for your computer, let me know - I would be happy to help. Just upgrading my mother's computer from 256 to 512 megs of ram made a world of difference for her.
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10-20-2005 12:50
From: Kendra Bancroft
who shall follow me!?


Nope! :p
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10-20-2005 12:50
From: Kendra Bancroft
I am now convinced of the rightness of my quest.



who shall follow me!?



Would you stop? It's wrong but it's funny. I'm so torn.
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Enabran Templar
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Join date: 26 Aug 2004
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10-20-2005 12:51
From: Cristiano Midnight
You really should consider adding 256megs more of memory to your computer.


Nay, nay, Cristiano, she needs to add 512 MB to her computer. Which would bring the grand total to 512.256 MB!
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Furthermore, as Second Life goes to the Metaverse, and this becomes an open platform, Linden Lab risks lawsuit in court and [attachment culling] will, I repeat WILL be reverse in court.


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Siggy Romulus
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Posts: 5,711
10-20-2005 12:54
From: Jonquille Noir

Just because some people live here and use the forums as a medium to make jackasses of themselves doesn't mean they don't serve a purpose..


That would be me :)
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