Hi Cadroe
I've just spotted this thread, and seen the picture attached. I'd love to give this a whirl for you. I have an idea for a build that this would come in very handy for. Drop one on me in-world if you'd like me to give it a go.
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Jonathan Mulberry
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03-20-2007 05:22
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CoyoteAngel Dimsum
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03-20-2007 09:06
I've been beating on the Lathe and have to say that it's *great*. Amazingly cool.
I made a 309-prim champagne glass big enough to party *in*.  Cool. (It's in my sandbox in Lovelace if you want to see it.)Word of warning: really, really, really make sure you texture your blocks *before* you lathe them. Trust me. Thanks very much, CM! _____________________
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bucky Barkley
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03-20-2007 09:59
Word of warning: really, really, really make sure you texture your blocks *before* you lathe them. Trust me. Heh - I quickly figured out it's best to build on the ground where you select all 400 prims from overhead _____________________
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Cg Hitchcock
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Hi Cadroe
03-22-2007 15:08
I've developed a new bezier lathe tool that automates the construction of large symmetrical shapes with curved sides, like the onion domes of the Taj Mahal. I'm looking for a few experienced builders who would like to test it out. If you're interested, please IM me. I would like to BetaTest your toll. I'm an architect with more than 15 years experience in 3D and visualizing. I'm a SL user and intersted in new building applications inside and outside of SL. I'm writing articles for a German SL forum (www.sltalk.de) andI've compiled an article about 3D and modelling online and offline of SL. Sorry but it's only in German. But if you want you can read about our reputation on the secondlife.com site. we are an developer team officially announced on their web site. Please drob me an eMail if you are willing to give it to me. [email]h.heberle@cgarchitekt.de[/email] I appreciate your answer and I want to thank you very much in advance. Best regards Horst Heberle cgArchitect |
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Fire Centaur
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failed to detect control point.
03-25-2007 06:02
hi there, I am having a problem, when I drage the control points with a 25m radius, I get a "failed to detect control point." is there anyway to set the range of the lathe tool?
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Dominguez Brentano
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03-26-2007 09:28
Heh - I quickly figured out it's best to build on the ground where you select all 400 prims from overhead isn't a roof that uses 400 prims just huuuge? (am new to building, not really sure what constitutes excessive prim usage!) |
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bucky Barkley
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03-26-2007 09:44
isn't a roof that uses 400 prims just huuuge? (am new to building, not really sure what constitutes excessive prim usage!) Oh for sure. I was just tossing out an example. I would never go over 395 As always, there is a balance to be struck between art and what's practical. _____________________
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Vuum Voom
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aha!
03-26-2007 15:54
i found out that the problem was, I had the control point still the active selection when trying to run the script, after I deselected it, it worked!
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Cadroe Murphy
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03-26-2007 18:34
Fire - I'm not sure if you found an answer under a different name. But I tested the Lathe with the control points out to the theoretical maximum of 48 meters from the tool and it worked. [edit - actually from the wiki it looks like 96 meters, but I only checked to 48] For some reason a sensor can't detect an object selected for editing, so you have to make sure you unselect them. Since this isn't intuitive, I've changed the message you get when it can't detect a control point to remind the user.
I've tried to send a copy to everyone who asked here, but if I missed you try IMing me. Thanks for the feedback. P.S. If anyone has done anything fun with it, it'd be cool to see a picture. _____________________
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CoyoteAngel Dimsum
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03-27-2007 09:20
Roof - 8 segments in curve - 32 prims in all
 [left]Champagne Glass - about 310 prims total[/left]  [left]You can see them in person in my sandbox.[/left] _____________________
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Eadoin Welles
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03-28-2007 13:19
I'd like to test it. Thank you.
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hurly Burleigh
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You are my hero
03-29-2007 13:11
Cadroe
You kindly sent me a copy of the tool and its fantastic!!!! As a non scripter i am not sure if any of this is possible but here is a couple of suggestions that may make it even more incredible. 1) more control points, maybe even have a command to set the nmber you require before the /77 controls command 2) There is a tendency for gaps to appear between the prims on the outside of curves. is it possible to taper them so it fills the gaps. I know there are limitations with sl's prim controls so it may be just impossible. The above are in no way moans about the tool I THINK ITS GREAT |
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Calveen Kline
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I'd like to take this pup for a walk...
03-29-2007 15:34
Hey Cad, would you be so kind to throw me a copy as well? I'd love to see what kind of magic I can come up with this tool. I'll save some pics of course...
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Cadroe Murphy
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03-29-2007 18:16
Cool pics, CoyoteAngel
hurly - Unless I'm confused (which happens), the inside of the shape should be smooth. There is actually a chance I'll make it an option which side is smooth in the future, but I'll have to look into it more. I don't know how to avoid gaps completely using box prims the way I am. Using thinner walls helps when it's practical. More control points would be cool, but I don't know if I'll be able to do it, sorry. What you can do is chain multiple shapes together smoothly. I mean you make one shape, then leave one end control point in place and move the others, make a new shape, repeat. The result should be a continuous curve. Hope that made sense! _____________________
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03-30-2007 05:55
Cadroe,
Since I've recently acquired, ummm, some land.... and now have a good number of prims to use, I'd like a chance to beta the bezier lathe as well. Thanks, _____________________
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Elscire Rennahan
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03-30-2007 07:06
Count me in, if you wouldn't mind. This looks like a rather interesting tool =)
edit: was that really my first post? I must just lurk a lot.. |
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Strife Onizuka
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03-30-2007 13:49
I always enjoy the tools you make, count me in.
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hurly Burleigh
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03-30-2007 15:34
Cadroe
you are right that the inside of curves is smooth and perfect. I was just being fussy and wanted both sides to be smooth which is I appreciate almost impossible with sl constraints. I actually discovered I could continue with a new set after i posted last time so that solves that problem Thanks anyway |
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Chosen Few
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04-02-2007 15:20
Hey Cadroe,
Sorry it took me a while to get around to playing with this thing. As usual, your genius amazes me. I think you've got a very good start on what could be a REALLY good tool here. It only has two issues, from what I've seen so far, both of which have already been mentioned. The first is its failure to detect control points if they are selected. This is just a minor annoyance, not really a problem. The second issue though is a huge problem, at least for me. That is its inability to make the prim edges meet on the outside of the curve. Until you're able to get the outside surface to be free of gaps, it's unlikely I'll be able to use the tool for much. Fix that, and I'd probably use it all the time. _____________________
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Cadroe Murphy
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04-03-2007 05:26
Chosen - Thanks for the input.
Just to be clear, controls not being detected when they're selected is an LSL issue. Scripted sensors don't detect objects which are selected (probably because they're in some sort of indeterminate edit state). I could change try changing them to listen for a command to shout their position, but that's more complicated and error prone. So unfortunately that inconvenience is likely to stay. When I find some time I'm going to look into making it an option which side is smooth. Unless I'm confused, it can be done. So hopefully in the future the tool will do what you need. The size of the seams is determined by the thickness of the shape, so people who can use thinner shapes should have less of a problem. Thanks again for the feedback. _____________________
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Calveen Kline
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04-03-2007 12:56
Cad, thanks for the tool. I tried to use it, but couldn't go beyond rezzing the main box. I just couldn't find what to do next. Perhaps, we can meet inworld and go over this if you can spare 5 minutes. I'm usually around after 5p SLT. Thanks again.
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Kepster Cure
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04-03-2007 16:15
Is it to late for me to get one as well, this is my area of expertise and it looks helpful.
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Kia Lightworker
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04-08-2007 15:25
This tool seems very interesting, I would like to give trying it out a shot if its not already too late for testing and feedback.
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Brenham Beale
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04-10-2007 14:16
Is this Bezier Lathe tool called BezierGen 1.12? If it is then I've seen it at Osterhout (218, 33, 9
 selling for L$1.Never mind, BezierGen is a different tool. Hey Cadroe, I'm willing to give that Bezier Lathe tool a spin and give some feedback. I have an empty 1792 sq. m. plot of land I recently cleared of an old building project (never finished it, heh). ShapeGen was an awesome tool by the way. Great for setting up circular/semi-circular pillars, arches and blocks. |
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Noctua Janus
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04-12-2007 01:16
If you are still interested in testers, I've got a draft of a building lying around that I haven't attempted yet due to complex geometry. I assume your tool might be quite useful and I'd love to give it a try.
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