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Discussion: Prim Mirror Script Now Available!

Jeffrey Gomez
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03-08-2005 22:17
Edit: Forgot to change the target in this thread after I fixed the code. Please refer to this thread for the final revision of the code. Thanks!
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Alex Lumiere
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03-12-2005 09:02
Original Thread: /15/9a/38165/1.html, ne


awesome! thank you :)
Storma Amarula
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03-17-2005 11:53
Thanks so much Jeffrey - a very useful Prim building tool!
Shiryu Musashi
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03-19-2005 06:16
mmmh let me understand, so this script allows you to copy any prim made item (textures excluded) even if it's no-copy?
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Shiryu Musashi
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03-19-2005 06:18
let me understand, does this tool help you copy an item's prims (but not textures) even when it's no-copy?
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Jeffrey Gomez
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03-19-2005 16:57
It will mirror anything that is flagged "Modify" and was created by the owner of the item. Trust me - I had a nice long thread on the "potential to abuse" already, asked a few residents, and even talked to a few Lindens prior to release.

Please don't hurt me. :D
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Unhygienix Gullwing
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03-20-2005 15:01
:eek:

All objects suddenly forced into open-source domain?
Kyrah Abattoir
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03-21-2005 00:17
yes Shiriu
its why i was a bit opposed to the idea
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Michi Lumin
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03-22-2005 09:56
Yes... Others have existed, but they were not disrtributed for this reason...

I'm sure this falls into one of the "This can be used for good or bad, and the creator isn't responsible if it's used for bad" areas, but especially since the script is now publically available, yes, copies of nocopy will become quite a bit more common.
Michi Lumin
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03-22-2005 10:04
Really, what I want to know, is when people do start copying and selling other folk's stuff with this thing, what is LL going to do about it - I'd imagine a big fat nothing.
Lordfly Digeridoo
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03-22-2005 10:18
Who needs perm settings when you can just copy everything with this script?

IP rights go foom....
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eltee Statosky
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03-22-2005 10:30
Yes this is a very useful script, but it could be used to duplicate in world items that would otherwise be set no copy.
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shinmai Akebono
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03-22-2005 21:23
I believe it is scripted to check if you created the object before it allows you to mirror it.
YadNi Monde
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03-25-2005 10:31
Yes Shinmai, it DOES check if you are the Creator of the Original Prim you want to mirror, but it s also probably true that as the script is open source bad things can happen, cause u ll always have "unpolite terms"people everywhere =D
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YadNi Monde
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03-25-2005 10:33
Yes Shinmai, it does check that you are the creator of the original prim to mirror, but it is true too that as the script is open source, it can be used in bad ways.......
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Rico Plisskin
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04-16-2005 07:10
If it detects that you are the owner and works for the owner (which means your personal objects and such are all full perm) then cant you just click and drag the object from inventory for duplication without messing up textures or anything?
Juro Kothari
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04-23-2005 17:58
How does this affect transfer? Say, for example, I have an object that is copy/mod/no trans, will it now become copy/mod/trans?
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Nexus Nash
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04-23-2005 23:30
This is simply a ghoster.

99% of people who sell stuff of VALUE have inventory such as scripts that are either no copy, no mod, no trans.... usually under the flags mod, no copy, trans or no mod,copy, no trans.

Under these 2 sets of perms there is NO way to fully copy say... a scripted ANYTHING. You might be able to get the model, of the thing, but the guts (the hard part to make) (scripts) you won't be able to touch.

So, nice prim copier, pretty much usless from a "i'm gonna copy all your stuff and sell them as mine" stand point.

P.S. Why is everyone freaking out?! You can't copy anything 100% if it has inventory.
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Jeffrey Gomez
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04-24-2005 20:37
From: Nexus Nash
So, nice prim copier, pretty much usless from a "i'm gonna copy all your stuff and sell them as mine" stand point.

The original intended use was nothing of this sort - I could show you exactly what it's meant to do in-world.

From: Nexus Nash
P.S. Why is everyone freaking out?! You can't copy anything 100% if it has inventory.

Because the community at large (well, the vocal minority at least) is apparently not ready for this stuff in an open environment. I took this down because it earnestly distressed a single resident - that's enough of a message for me. "Drama threads" are typically nothing more than just that, however.

I have rewritten the script to get what was fundamentally important - the fact this can perfectly create an inverted, mirror image of an object - to work without the side effect of actually "copying" prims. I will likely release that once the seas have calmed over this issue.

As an addendum, please get your facts straight before you "champion" my work. The fact you have now twice called this "just another prim copier" upsets me, because it only builds on the level of naivete that started the drama in the first place. And, in a lot of ways, I did overestimate the technical knowledge of residents over this.

As they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Please research the issue first.
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Thili Playfair
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04-24-2005 21:10
So unless it has a script whatever i make has no value now?

Utter BS from you :)

No mod, or no copy on a house wich is what i make is useless ,
image buying a house and wont let you change anything or if you accidentally delete it , well no copy ruins that, ops,

you sir a moron
Hiro Pendragon
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04-24-2005 22:42
Mmmmm .... so next are you going to be writing a virus and distributing it as "be careful with this"?

:mad:
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Caliandris Pendragon
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04-25-2005 01:01
From: Nexus Nash
P.S. Why is everyone freaking out?! You can't copy anything 100% if it has inventory.


I make frames and mirrors and jars and rugs and jugs and benches and tables and boxes and paintings and LOADS of stuff that has no scripts.

I already know that people are selling my free to copy stuff, and that's bad enough. Knowing that they are selling the stuff I spent time designing would be very depressing.

Some of us don't have amazing scripting skills, and some of us make items that wouldn't be scripted no matter how amazing a scripter we were. That's why.
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04-25-2005 05:24
From: Nexus Nash
This is simply a ghoster.

99% of people who sell stuff of VALUE have inventory such as scripts that are either no copy, no mod, no trans.... usually under the flags mod, no copy, trans or no mod,copy, no trans.

Under these 2 sets of perms there is NO way to fully copy say... a scripted ANYTHING. You might be able to get the model, of the thing, but the guts (the hard part to make) (scripts) you won't be able to touch.

So, nice prim copier, pretty much usless from a "i'm gonna copy all your stuff and sell them as mine" stand point.

P.S. Why is everyone freaking out?! You can't copy anything 100% if it has inventory.

I make lots of things which don't have inventory. I spend hours building things which I then sell. As someone has said in another thread, how would YOU feel if someone made a script duplicator which made your scripts FTC and showed someone else as the creator????

I really cannot see why anyone who had good intentions would make this Jeffrey.
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04-25-2005 08:31
this could always be done manually by using select individual/edit linked and looking at the values on each prim, though it just took a little longer. i'll admit to having used this method in the past, though only for reproducing interrestingly shaped prims i saw laying around, and not to copy things others were selling...but i have seen entire objects recreated by people in this manner for personal tinkering. as a builder myself, i can see both sides of this issue, but this only speeds up a process which was already manually possible, and i welcome it as a tool i can use to do things like mirroring an oddly shaped jet wing, saving me a bit of headache inducing math.
Jeffrey Gomez
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04-25-2005 08:35
Ladies and gentlemen, if you're going to write drama, keep it in General. Since this is now in Scripting Tips, I will be ignoring drama posts added here.

If you have a technical question about it, ask it here. If drama continues, I will politely ask this thread be closed as needed.

Thank you.
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