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Eggy Lippmann
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01-25-2006 07:02
I was looking through viewerart.ini but there doesn't seem to be any entry for the cloud texture. Does anyone have any idea on how to go about this?
I don't suppose LL was clueful enough to make it an estate setting? Within a few months I'm going to be part of a team making an educational movie where one of the requirements was specifically stated as changing the cloud texture to something darker and more smokey...  _____________________
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Jesrad Seraph
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01-25-2006 07:55
The cloud texture used in the SL sky is generated, I think. And no, there's nothing in the Estate menu that allows changing / disabling clouds
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Logan Bauer
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01-25-2006 08:00
Hmm, it ain't pretty, but you could maybe replace the cloud texture with a streaming video (or just a single-frame image put into the media URL of course)... That's about all that comes to mind for me.
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Jesrad Seraph
Nonsense
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01-25-2006 08:10
There's no key nor texture file for the clouds, as Eggy says, so I can't think of a way to do that
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Eggy Lippmann
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01-25-2006 09:03
The cloud texture used in the SL sky is generated, I think. And no, there's nothing in the Estate menu that allows changing / disabling clouds <shameless plug>BTW did you know I make a machine that can change the weather, make clouds (white to dark), rain, snow, thunder, meteorite falls, etc... ?</shameless plug> Like these =v ? Yeah, I thought about particles but if we could use the normal clouds it would be a lot better. The effect I'm looking for is a panoramic shot of a sim-sized city that is on fire, viewed from above, so we were thinking that if we could hack the clouds to make them look more like smoke, we could just raise the ground to cloud height. Particles are too limited and too LODed to do what we want... maybe we should instead build a smaller scale model for the wide shots. Feel free to prove me wrong though! Has ANYONE tried covering a whole sim with particles? oO _____________________
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Lucifer Baphomet
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01-25-2006 09:21
Over Xmas, AJUK Baldwin covered the entire sim of Slollywood in falling snow particles.
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Shack Dougall
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01-25-2006 10:10
maybe we should instead build a smaller scale model for the wide shots. A smaller scale model is a great idea. _____________________
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Cid Jacobs
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01-25-2006 10:13
Has ANYONE tried covering a whole sim with particles? oO There is no known cloud texture that I am aware of, you should ask for it in SL Answeres ( you never know). As for the sim in particles, that doesnt work too hot from my experience. I would go with a smaller model, plus it would be easier to make changes on the fly to the particles if it was a small model. Good Luck, I'll hunt around a bit more actively to see if there is a cloud texture as well... you never know, maybe someone from Alpha knows!   _____________________
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Zapoteth Zaius
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01-25-2006 10:22
I'm suprised you didn't try this in beta.
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Argent Stonecutter
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The clouds ARE particles.
01-25-2006 10:25
The clouds are just a big sim-wide particle engine.
You can really tell if you try doing particle effects around 200 meters, turning off clouds in Debug becomes reflex in certain areas where the ground is close to 200.  |
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Rickard Roentgen
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01-25-2006 10:43
ya, we tried using heavy particles a while back in a combat sim. It sort of worked. The problem is the max particle size is smaller than the cloud particles. But it could work if the clouds aren't an option.
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Zapoteth Zaius
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01-25-2006 11:02
ya, we tried using heavy particles a while back in a combat sim. *snip* *ears perk up* In beta?!?! With Eggy?!?! _____________________
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Rickard Roentgen
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01-25-2006 11:07
Sadly no, this wasn't in beta with eggy, but speaking of which, I think Eggy already did this in beta, and this is his attempt to kill the joke
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Damien Took
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Join date: 3 Dec 2004
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01-25-2006 11:09
Hello,
I noticed this in the Wiki, under the Misc section: http://secondlife.com/badgeo/wakka.php?wakka=ClientAssetKeys#misc I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for though. |
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Cid Jacobs
Theoretical Meteorologist
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01-25-2006 11:33
Hello, I noticed this in the Wiki, under the Misc section: http://secondlife.com/badgeo/wakka.php?wakka=ClientAssetKeys#misc I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for though. Nah, the alpha sizzle has never worked in any previous versions for me, so i doubt that is the texture key for it. Although it would be nice if LL would include the cloud uuid on the client asset list _____________________
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Cid Jacobs
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01-25-2006 11:34
Sadly no, this wasn't in beta with eggy, but speaking of which, I think Eggy already did this in beta, and this is his attempt to kill the joke .Agreed, remember when it rained yolk? _____________________
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Eggy Lippmann
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01-25-2006 11:48
Are you people ever going to stop harassing me? Is it too much to ask of people that they behave with a certain level of maturity and respect for their peers in these forums?
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Strife Onizuka
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01-25-2006 12:00
Let me look into this...
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Zapoteth Zaius
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01-25-2006 12:08
Are you people ever going to stop harassing me? Is it too much to ask of people that they behave with a certain level of maturity and respect for their peers in these forums? No!! Zapoteth Zaius: *I* should stop pissing Eggy off in the forums Willow Zander: dont worry, he was used to it in beta (I got Willows permission to post it, but if its still not allowed, you can remove it  )_____________________
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Phoenix Psaltery
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01-25-2006 12:45
Are you people ever going to stop harassing me? Is it too much to ask of people that they behave with a certain level of maturity and respect for their peers in these forums? Yes, in fact, it is. P2 _____________________
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Catherine Omega
Geometry Ninja
Join date: 10 Jan 2003
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01-25-2006 12:45
I'm pretty sure the texture is autogenerated. I wonder if it's cached somewhere other than just video memory though.
Also, mature much, guys?  _____________________
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Strife Onizuka
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Join date: 3 Mar 2004
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01-25-2006 12:46
... the hack is possible though it's not the most eligant, it is simple and won't make the client unstable. More details i shall not give
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Zapoteth Zaius
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01-25-2006 12:48
... the hack is possible though it's not the most eligant, it is simple and won't make the client unstable. More details i shall not give He knows too much, and for that reason, HE MUST BE PUNISHED! Eggys got the beta thing.. We'll just have to put "Stife'll know" into every, single, thread in the forums.. _____________________
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Apotheus Silverman
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Join date: 17 Nov 2003
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01-26-2006 10:31
Yeah, I thought about particles but if we could use the normal clouds it would be a lot better. The effect I'm looking for is a panoramic shot of a sim-sized city that is on fire, viewed from above, so we were thinking that if we could hack the clouds to make them look more like smoke, we could just raise the ground to cloud height. Particles are too limited and too LODed to do what we want... maybe we should instead build a smaller scale model for the wide shots. Feel free to prove me wrong though! Has ANYONE tried covering a whole sim with particles? oO You can make it so particles are not culled by the LOD monster by making their source prims at least 10m on at least one axis. That way the prims aren't culled, and the particles are also not culled. I did this for the approach lights at Abbotts Aerodrome and they are always visible whenever the runway itself is. _____________________
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Troy Vogel
Marginal Prof. of ZOMG!
Join date: 16 Aug 2004
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Make your own sky....
01-26-2006 11:00
If the clouds above don't work for you. Why don't you make a plane above your land, and then create your own weather by projecting your cloud textures and movement algorithm to this plane.
Would that work? Troy _____________________
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