Nazis in SL

Multiple Abuse reports have been sent to Linden about the attached photos. 4 days later, the object remains and the owner still has an active account.

I think I am more offended by Linden's lack of action then the creator of the object

As a paying customer I find this to be a disgrace!

Did you contact the sim owner, to remove them?

I imagine this sort of thing, and violations of the intolerance clause of the community standards, will become much more common once the private estate owners have the option of handling abuse reports.

Although, come to think of it, there would probably also be resident estate region owners that would act swiftly to remove Nazi junk from their sims because it's bad for business or just plain offends and bores them.

Conversely I suspect that there will be islands owned by these hate groups!

They already have websites.

Private island or not they would still have to follow TOS and Community Standards.

TOS Section 4.1:

"In addition to abiding at all times by the Community Standards, you agree that you shall not: ... (iv) take any action or upload, post, e-mail or otherwise transmit Content as determined by Linden Lab at its sole discretion that is harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, causes tort, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable;..."

Let them try. Then LL can close their account, shut down their island and keep the $1650 island start up fee.

In theory what you say is true, but in practice I don't see much proactive enforcement by LL.

Once I see some action of the discrimination ARs that get filed then I will believe that LL really is wiling to enforce these fine words.

This was in SandBox Cordova. It covered a quarter of the sandbox and kept flying up and down like some big dumb ignorant bigoted poofer. People who do this should be sterilized.

Immediate banning of the perp (avatar) would both be more practical and more effective!

There's this guy in SL who has had over a hundred accounts easy. He's been banned, repeatedly, but makes a new account, over and over and over again, no matter what they do.

Point being, even if they did ban them for uploading nazi propaganda, which I doubt they will irregardless of how offensive some people find it, they'll be back. Griefers have no life other than griefing. They always come back.

This is why I love locally policed areas like Furnation. Waiting for LL to respond DOES NOT WORK, but having a group of mods who have the power to ban players / clean up junk does. If something like that happens in FN, within 30 seconds it's all over the group chat, and within 5 minutes someone's there to get rid of it.

Really, that is what needs to happen. SL is too big for the Lindens to be everywhere at once, and as residents we need to take it amongst ourselves to police our sections of the grid. If something happens in a sandbox that's offensive, contact the owner. If they're offline or don't respond, move somewhere else.

You must have missed the part on the Blog where Chadwick points out Estate Governors wont have to abide by the TOS on their estates.

OMG thats bad!!

I Germany you could go into jail if you show NAZI stuff. All NAZI symbols are strictly forbidden in GER. And I think that's great...

Didn't I hear a certain chap with a moustache talking like this before?

I understand the sensitivities involved, but as a student of history, I always bristle at attempts sanitize history by removing parts of it. In my opinion, that's more harmful. But regardless, that stuff isn't ncessary here.

As for the image in the original post, I see a Swastika, a fence, and a guy in a hat with a beard.

These by themselves I don't find offensive. For example, any movie about the holocaust is likely to contain these same images.

TOS Section 4.1:

"In addition to abiding at all times by the Community Standards, you agree that you shall not: ... (iv) take any action or upload, post, e-mail or otherwise transmit Content as determined by Linden Lab at its sole discretion that is harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, causes tort, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable;..."

Let them try. Then LL can close their account, shut down their island and keep the $1650 island start up fee.[/QUOTE]


Determined by Linden Lab at its sole discretion is a key phrase here

But lets not overlook the fact that closing the account would be a profitable venture in that LL gets to resell the land

Of course - you are right Lee,
It could be an art installation for all we know - these things are debateable in RL as well as SL.

Its just the obvious stuff that's the problem.

BTW you know there is a nazi RP group in the groups list right?

That's great
There are a lot of ppl on this world which think that Hitler is the President of Germany hehe

But you are right...

What a bvnch of Fvcking Cvnts!

And just as many who think he is the President of the United States....

STuff like this is also why I dont want to make zombie skins of the Amphibious Undead German Soldiers from the movie "ShockWaves" untill I can satisfy myself that it wouldnt be considered "pro-nazi". When I did my civil war zombies, I didnt include any insignia's on either uniforms for fear of being called "Racist". Its even tougher with German outfits since most of their pins, badges, etc, are considered "offensive".

Again ,not trampling on anyone's sensitivities, but this is the danger we tread on in my opinion. depending on the context, an images' Historical Accuracy can be crucial. While a video game may not demand this accuracy, sometimes this is where things start, in innocuous places. First games, then TV and Movies, artwork, Museum exhibits, then History books, then History itself is sanitized. It is a slippery slope for sure. And ironically a slope containing the very same ideas we re trying to protect ourselves from.We become what we despise.

A very thin black moustache?

...haha...

Like...seriously. Stuff like this makes me sick. I feel bad for people who are so full of hate...

I think it's not fair for the German government to effectively erase its history. I mean, the majority of the German population just stood there as my family was butchered...it's not exactly fair for them to just act like everything was cheery. Like Elie Wiesel said, apathy is the greatest evil, and I think that by erasing and basically trying to avoid talking about HaShoah, the german populace is affectively trying to avoid the general apathy.

What makes you think it does something like that?