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Plea to animation makers

Learjeff Innis
musician & coder
Join date: 27 Nov 2006
Posts: 817
08-21-2007 10:18
From: Chrome Hansup
Hmmm.. so we should make everything here free for you to give away again? This place is about making money and having fun. I believe everyone should be able to prosper from their hard work. If everyone had the idea that their newly purchased item was over the hill and wanted to just give it away then sales would vaporize for the people creating things.

Question: Are you willing to pay a significantly higher price for trans?


Chrome, I don't see that he mentioned "copy AND trans" anywhere. Only copy/xfer would be subject to your issue here, and I don't think anyone is demanding that.
Learjeff Innis
musician & coder
Join date: 27 Nov 2006
Posts: 817
08-21-2007 10:33
From: Tracy Scofield
However I agree with Craig regarding the copy/no trans bit. You can't please everyone. While I do actually kind of like my poses to be copy/no trans (especially poses I might use in pose balls and such) - I absolutely HATE copy/no trans clothing. There are quite a few outfits I haven't purchased because they were no trans. What if I want to let my alt borrow it? What if it totally sucks and I can't resell it. I've got a serious issue with throwing anything away so the sucky outfit will sit in my inventory til the end of days taunting me. If it had been trans I could have given it away or resold it.

So yes, LL needs to solve their inventory issues. Or maybe even stores can offer two versions of said item but yeah, this is going to suck up prims really quick.


I like copy/no-xfer clothing, because then I can make folders containing whole outfits, and put the same item in more than one outfit. If I end up not liking it, well, too bad for me.

There are good reasons for both options. It would be nice if retailers could carry both types, but trust me it's a big enough hassle without that additional burden. There is an LSL function to set object permissions, but it was never implemented.

Ideally, we could sell EVERYTHING xfer/no-copy, and give the owner the option to change it to copy/no-xfer. This would increase sales, increase customer satisfaction, and make life easier for retailers! You could try stuff out and if you don't end up liking it, pass it along. But if you do like it, you can conver it to copiable.

Of course, only the maker should have the ability to allow this. Some items (e.g., a limited edition art work) shouldn't be allowed to change to copiable.

LL's permissions system is a complex tradeoff of a number of factors, and they did a remarkably good job of producing one that serves the purpose and is relatively simple.
Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
Posts: 3,373
08-21-2007 18:51
this is the best idea in ages.
"allow user to convert nc/t to c/nt, provided the creator can opt-out"
From: Learjeff Innis


Ideally, we could sell EVERYTHING xfer/no-copy, and give the owner the option to change it to copy/no-xfer. This would increase sales, increase customer satisfaction, and make life easier for retailers! You could try stuff out and if you don't end up liking it, pass it along. But if you do like it, you can conver it to copiable.

Of course, only the maker should have the ability to allow this. Some items (e.g., a limited edition art work) shouldn't be allowed to change to copiable.
drOffset Cortes
Registered User
Join date: 21 Jun 2007
Posts: 25
08-21-2007 19:26
Most of my (admitedly modest)business so far has been in custom work for people creating a product _or_ for performers. They might need transfer for the animation that will be part of a bigger product, so I do it, and charge accordingly, I don't really have a problem with that.

Then the ones i sell in my shop are mod/copy/noTrans because it seems the most fair to everyone given the options available.

What if there was a pop-up menu when you purchase asking which perms you'd like, then it'll give you the correct item. That can probably be scripted, I'm guessing.
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