Advice requested by new SL Dom
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Imogen Saltair
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07-18-2007 19:48
From: Brenda Archer But if you did, I might find it interesting  get thee behind me ... temptress 
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Susie Boffin
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07-18-2007 20:30
This subject is entirely too complex. Can someone post a manual or a chart?
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Cherry Czervik
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07-18-2007 21:50
My advice is (objectively, not personally mean to you Angelic, good luck in your search) Don't be sleazy Don't go stand right in front of the poor girl and crowd her Don't assume she's not in a load of IMs Don't get shirty if she's not interested Do assume she's used to approaches from asshats - cos she will be Do respect a no ... or even a restrained lack of response (some girls find no a hard word to say ... me, in general no is one of my very favourites) Do try having some fun in general around some of the better places rather than 'seeking' ... let it come up in your conversation naturally AND ... this advice should be applicable in general not just to BDSM people  AND and and ... I think that 10% figure is probably optimistic
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Brenda Archer
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07-18-2007 23:20
From: Imogen Saltair get thee behind me ... temptress  *puts on devil horns* 
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Aleister Montgomery
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07-18-2007 23:35
My advice: visit public dungeons. Engage in "one session stands". Sooner or later you'll find someone who you feel compatible to, and if you are lucky she is also attracted to you and happens to be uncollared.
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Angelic Beam
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07-19-2007 02:19
Cherry, thank you, I do however have no intention of approaching ladies and asking each one "will you be my sub please". All I am asking as where good places to meet ladies who might be of that mindset, I am fully aware a true Dom/Sub relationship must be formed over time and am prepared for a number of "getting to know you" periods to end in "this isn't right for us" but I am hopeful that one ... and in the future possbily more if the first agrees will be successful.
Aleister your advice is kind and appreciated but I can't help feeling that a Dungeon might be giving the wrong impression as I have stated BDSM and indeed sex is low on my priorities. I'm looking for a companion to stimulate my mind, my loins, well they may need stimulating too now and then but that will be entirely up to the sub. I'm thinking a club type environment might be more appropriate.
I had an enjoyable brief visit at the Forum yesterday which has encouraged me somewhat so thanks all for that tip.
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Tegg Bode
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07-19-2007 03:46
Try hang around a bit at House of V 
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Brenda Connolly
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07-19-2007 04:08
From: Angelic Beam I had an enjoyable brief visit at the Forum yesterday which has encouraged me somewhat so thanks all for that tip.
I hope you visit often. As a peripheral observer of this subject, it needs thoughtful voices, which you seem to be. If you read some of the recent threads on the subject there is a lot of self righteous posturing from both sides at times. I think that you will have no trouble finding what you are looking for, you paint a very appealing picture as to what you offer. I hope to read your thoughts here again, on other topics as well.
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AWM Mars
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07-19-2007 04:51
It's fair to say, that the vast majority of your 'attackers' will be females.... Historically females have fought hard to create an equalness between the genders.. it's also fair to say, that females are the higher majority to want to become slaves/pets or whatever you wish to address them as. Equally, both genders can dispise and admire at the same time, anyone who assumes or attains some sort of power, although primarily, sole power of an individual (which is what I call them), can be quite a daunting concept to grasp.. except when viewed as a parent maybe? I hope, either way, as you have joinned this open and varied community of SL... you find what you seek.
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Brenda Connolly
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07-19-2007 05:03
That's a very good observation, although I don't know if Vast Majority is accurate. There is an element of the "Feminist Movement" that will view a woman making this choice freely negatively just as there is a backlash against those that are choosing to forego the careerworld to become mothers and housewives. A woman's right should be to live her life howeve she wants, persue whatever career path she wants, not that of some self appointed spokesperson looking to further thier own aganda.
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Cherry Czervik
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07-19-2007 05:46
From: Angelic Beam Cherry, thank you, I do however have no intention of approaching ladies and asking each one "will you be my sub please". All I am asking as where good places to meet ladies who might be of that mindset, I am fully aware a true Dom/Sub relationship must be formed over time and am prepared for a number of "getting to know you" periods to end in "this isn't right for us" but I am hopeful that one ... and in the future possbily more if the first agrees will be successful.
You see Angelic, that's why I said OBJECTIVELY - I didn't make that assumption  Chill and find your feet - I'm sure someone is out there.
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Angelic Beam
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07-19-2007 06:02
LOL Cherry, apologies once again I appeared overly defensive. I did not take your post as an attack my response was simply poorly phrased. I appreciate your input.
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Cherry Czervik
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07-19-2007 06:05
S'ok Angelic no worries - I didn't phrase my original post too well either (price of posting half asleep!)
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Lucrezia Lamont
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07-19-2007 06:45
From: Imogen Saltair Perhaps we should include in the newbie welcome pack (see another thread) some links to websites that explain the world of BDSM , since for many, SL is their first encounter with BDSM and all people think they have to do to join in is get a Domly Dom alt name and a cheap freebie riding crop and then treat a girl mean.
Imogen ha ha, I added a paragraph about that last night in my newbie kit, but I may expand that in my notecard regarding sex. I think an explanation of terms would be helpful too. And I hope the OP finds a lovely partner.
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Maggie McArdle
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07-19-2007 06:53
From: Angelic Beam I've been in SL a good few months now, learned the basics, picked up some skills, earned a few lindens and got myself some land but always felt something was missing. I decided it was time to incorporate a part of my RL self that is generally kept out of public view into SL and already I feel much happier. I am a Dom, a little different from the others I've seen. I don't do Gor. I'm not heavily into BDSM (in fact if my sub prefers it I am happy to forgo a sexual relationship) All I ask is that my sub(s) submits to me, gives me her love, trust and respect, in return I will offer a home, my time, my love, my trust and my protection. I will support them in their SL endevours, encourging them to learn new skills and seek out opportunities. I want this in SL only, my RL is just fine as it is  My problem is, I'm finding it difficult to meet potential candidates. I checked out the Seeking ads at the M&S store but none were appropriate and as this isn't an area I've spent much time in SL up to now I'm not sure of what to do next. Can other Doms, Masters, Mistresses, Subs, Slaves, pets advise me? I am aware it will take time to get to know someone before I could offer them my collar but if I can at least start getting to know people who are in the right mindset it would be a start. For some reason i found this bit much easier in RL LOL. Many thanks. Hiyas Angelic, try going to BDSM Sims andgetting to know the epople there's one i recommend highly is being built by a friend and her Dominant, which welcome those new, curious or are looking for what You are and can be extremely helpful to You. im me in world and ill give you thier LM, after i ask permission first. a bit of advice though, get to know your potential sub before offering Your collar, this wil save you time and heartache, and lindens. Good Luck
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Aree Lulibub
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07-19-2007 07:01
Something that hasn't been mentioned yet is seek out some of the BDSM Houses around the grid. They usually have education classes, events and offer support for their members and affiliates. You're welcome to IM me in-world for more info.
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Colette Meiji
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07-19-2007 08:47
There are lots of terrible Domme/Doms.
There are lots of terrible Gorean Masters/Mistresses.
There are lots of Terrible subbies.
There are lots of Terrible Kajirae.
I think these situations are compounded by the obvious -
MANY who do BDSM/Gor online are not involved in real life, nor would they want to be. This is fine except that ..
MANY who do BDSM/Gor online dont even consider GOR/BDSM important enough to learn before practicing it.
Many of the subbies/slaves dont really want to be subbies/slaves they just want to do something fun and dress like them and play pretend.
Many of the Dom/Domme/Master/Mistresses' dont really want to be Dominant they just want to play with the group above.
Then the really messed up stuff happens becuase people with different levels of RL involvement- Different levels of Online commitment and Different motivations all try to get involved together.
The fact that it isnt WORSE of a mess is what is surprizing.
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Lucrezia Lamont
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07-19-2007 09:01
Colette, I agree with you, from what little I've been exposed to. An idea though as to why it's not as messed up as possible is because most good Scene people I know would be able to detect the serious players from those who just want to pretend (which, there is nothing wrong with, as some move on to become serious players), and therefore be able to avoid interacting with them if they wish. The serious players can opt to completely ignore those who wish to pretend, or they may be astute enough to recognize when someone is genuinely curious about entering the Scene, and take them under their wing for a bit. Most Scene people I know in RL are very kind and generous, and I don't think they'd want to rock the boat too much. Now that's not to say the Scene in RL isn't rife with its own politics, but the people are, generally, genuine.
Just a theory.
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Imogen Saltair
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07-19-2007 09:04
From: Colette Meiji There are lots of terrible Domme/Doms.
There are lots of terrible Gorean Masters/Mistresses............ snip......... The fact that it isnt WORSE of a mess is what is surprizing. Hear Hear Colette. I definitely agree with all of your post imogen
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Angelique LaFollette
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07-19-2007 22:29
From: AWM Mars It's fair to say, that the vast majority of your 'attackers' will be females.... Historically females have fought hard to create an equalness between the genders.. it's also fair to say, that females are the higher majority to want to become slaves/pets or whatever you wish to address them as. Equally, both genders can dispise and admire at the same time, anyone who assumes or attains some sort of power, although primarily, sole power of an individual (which is what I call them), can be quite a daunting concept to grasp.. except when viewed as a parent maybe? I hope, either way, as you have joinned this open and varied community of SL... you find what you seek. I Read a study recently, it was in One of the major Psychology texts regarding Rape fantasies and Sexual Power Play Fantasies. The study observed that Such fantasies were present, and common in a broad cross section of Women, But was signifigantly Larger in Women occupying positions of Power, and Authority. It went on to express a Reasonong somewhat like, they were able to Enjoy their sexual encounters more when Feelings of Direct responsibility for the Choice to Have Sex was removed. I would have to Read more studies in other texts to Form a proper Opinion on the subject Myself, But that reasoning IS common among many sexual Slaves. "I have no choice in the matter, so there is no guilt if i Enjoy it" No matter How "Kinky' the act. So it Seems Many Women of power, and strength harbor a secret desire to be Dominated, and Controlled. I Myself do not But As i said, One study isn't enough to form an opinion, But it's interesting enough for me to Read more, and to Toss out there for you to comment on. Angel.
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