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FBI called over land bot FRAUD

Marty Starbrook
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07-02-2007 04:40
Surely the Lindens take a dim view on using exploits to aquire land....*cough cough* ...

screw that ... the lindens are only interested if it effects THIER land ... not yours
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Elex Dusk
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07-02-2007 06:19
Landbots are owned and operated by individual residents.

Landbots function as a tool in the marketplace which automatically seek out price information.

After identifying (according to an operator defined threshold) an undervalued parcel the landbot buys it.

After purchasing the parcel the land is then priced for resale (according to an operator defined price per square meter).

If the parcel sells the landbot operator earns a profit. If the parcel fails to sell the landbot operator is responsible for the tier fees of the parcel and might potentially fail to earn a profit.

That's it. That's all a landbot does. A tool which automatically identifies undervalued parcels and purchases them for resale.

It's up to an individual resident to maintain control over their asset (land). If they fail to price it correctly or far below market value, or fail to sell it to a specific individual by marking it for sale to Anyone, this was their own fault, especially as warning dialogue windows are presented while a resident completes the process.
Sling Trebuchet
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07-02-2007 06:38
From: Elex Dusk
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That's it. That's all a landbot does. A tool which automatically identifies undervalued parcels and purchases them for resale.

It's up to an individual resident to maintain control over their asset (land). If they fail to price it correctly or far below market value, or fail to sell it to a specific individual by marking it for sale to Anyone, this was their own fault, especially as warning dialogue windows are presented while a resident completes the process.


Yes indeed!
Why the hell are they complaining about tripping on the step? We warned them that the paint was wet.
Elex Dusk
Bunneh
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07-02-2007 06:52
From: Sling Trebuchet
Yes indeed!
Why the hell are they complaining about tripping on the step? We warned them that the paint was wet.


And let's not forget, after having been warned about the wet paint, and then proceeding to trip on the freshly painted step, we must now stop the world from spinning and take that person aside and caress their furrowed brow and whisper, "There, there, sweet baby, it's not your fault that you set your own land for sale for L$1 to Anyone and it sold for L$1 to anyone and we should really get the Lindens involved as this is a horrible travesty which, though you set the land for sale yourself, you've made it intensely clear by means of your plaintive wailing that you're a bit of a moron and should never be held responsible for your own actions and we must clean and diaper you at all times as you're a complete menace to yourself. Shhhh. Shhhh. There there. We all love you, snookie wookie nummy-kins."

What upsets me about this particular type of thread (they fall into the general category of warning threads) is that there's no actual theft. There's no crime. There's no rip off. Absolutely nothing gets stolen. A person has lost control over their own asset by failing to pay attention to warning dialogues (it's why the warning dialogues are there) and it's an asset that they intended to transfer to another resident and... OH NOES... it got transferred. And now they get to cry "Thief" right? Nope. They sure don't. But they do so anyway.

The only fraud in that Avastar story about landbots was the use of the word "fraud" when there was no fraud.
Sling Trebuchet
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07-02-2007 06:56
From: Elex Dusk
And let's not forget, after having been warned about the wet paint, and then proceeding to trip on the freshly painted step, ...



No, no. The *step* wasn't painted!
The bathroom walls were. That's what we were warning them about.
Elex Dusk
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Posts: 800
07-02-2007 07:02
From: Sling Trebuchet
No, no. The *step* wasn't painted!
The bathroom walls were. That's what we were warning them about.


Ah... hilarious.

I'm not sure why these people would even be in a bathroom unless there's a diaper changing station.

The Terms of Service has a catchall for those persons who fail to set their land for sale correctly and then it winds up getting purchased by Anyone for L$1:

From: someone
Terms of Service: 5.1 You release Linden Lab from your claims relating to other users of Second Life. Linden Lab has the right but not the obligation to resolve disputes between users of Second Life.


That's the catch-all warning regarding painted steps, painted bathrooms, painted nails, etc. etc.

The short version of 5.1: "When you F-up it's your own damn fault."
Sling Trebuchet
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07-02-2007 07:27
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2.6 Linden Lab may suspend or terminate your account at any time, without refund or obligation to you.

Linden Lab has the right at any time for any reason or no reason to suspend or terminate your Account, terminate this Agreement, and/or refuse any and all current or future use of the Service without notice or liability to you. In the event that Linden Lab suspends or terminates your Account or this Agreement, you understand and agree that you shall receive no refund or exchange for any unused time on a subscription, any license or subscription fees, any content or data associated with your Account, or for anything else.
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So if that happens to you, for no reason that you're aware of, you won't complain. Because it's in the TOS.
Don Mill
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07-02-2007 07:57
From: Elex Dusk
Landbots are owned and operated by individual residents.

Landbots function as a tool in the marketplace which automatically seek out price information.

After identifying (according to an operator defined threshold) an undervalued parcel the landbot buys it.

After purchasing the parcel the land is then priced for resale (according to an operator defined price per square meter).

If the parcel sells the landbot operator earns a profit. If the parcel fails to sell the landbot operator is responsible for the tier fees of the parcel and might potentially fail to earn a profit.

That's it. That's all a landbot does. A tool which automatically identifies undervalued parcels and purchases them for resale.

It's up to an individual resident to maintain control over their asset (land). If they fail to price it correctly or far below market value, or fail to sell it to a specific individual by marking it for sale to Anyone, this was their own fault, especially as warning dialogue windows are presented while a resident completes the process.


We all know that, by now, Gina is overwhelmed with ignore me requests, so here is a little help for her.

Elex, by the powers conferred by me from the bot-less gawd, I declare you a landbot lover, without heart, soul or sympathy for the dumb user inside of us and declare that you are in the process to be included in Madam Gina's ignore list and muted for Her benefit.
Nina Stepford
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Join date: 26 Mar 2007
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07-02-2007 08:45
im not a gina groupie or anything, but i have to wonder why you all enjoy putting the boot in.
if you dont like what she has to say, ignore it. dont like her thread? dont post in it.
Coyote Momiji
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07-02-2007 08:47
From: Nina Stepford
im not a gina groupie or anything, but i have to wonder why you all enjoy putting the boot in.
if you dont like what she has to say, ignore it. dont like her thread? dont post in it.


Ah, I feel I must point out that this is a public forum wherein people state opinions that conflict.

Pointing out that the FBI's supposed "investigation" of landbots is less ridiculous if it's absolutely false only becomes "putting the boot in" when she starts bending over and screaming that we're kicking her...
Don Mill
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07-02-2007 08:48
From: Nina Stepford
im not a gina groupie or anything, but i have to wonder why you all enjoy putting the boot in.
if you dont like what she has to say, ignore it. dont like her thread? dont post in it.

In my case, I got tired of her being rude to everyone else, so I will mock her for the fun of it.

And ignore is and was never a good solution to anything.
Nina Stepford
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07-02-2007 08:50
if ignoring her is not the solution, what is?
making fun of her for entertainment? what has that solved?
From: Don Mill
In my case, I got tired of her being rude to everyone else, so I will mock her for the fun of it.

And ignore is and was never a good solution to anything.
Nina Stepford
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07-02-2007 08:54
opinions will conflict, yes. but that does not preclude acting like a civil adult does it?
its putting the boot in because i said so. it is not dependant upon her saying anything at all. if you all would like to have a go at somebody, have a go at me.
a person was upset about losing some land. rather than taking that into account when judging the thread, instead you chose to judge the person, critisise the person, belittle the person, act arrogant, and you wonder why she arced up?
From: Coyote Momiji
Ah, I feel I must point out that this is a public forum wherein people state opinions that conflict.

Pointing out that the FBI's supposed "investigation" of landbots is less ridiculous if it's absolutely false only becomes "putting the boot in" when she starts bending over and screaming that we're kicking her...
Coyote Momiji
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07-02-2007 08:56
From: Nina Stepford
opinions will conflict, yes. but that does not preclude acting like a civil adult does it?
its putting the boot in because i said so. it is not dependant upon her saying anything at all. if you all would like to have a go at somebody, have a go at me.
a person was upset about losing some land. rather than taking that into account when judging the thread, instead you chose to judge the person, critisise the person, belittle the person, act arrogant, and you wonder why she arced up?


I was quite sympathetic to her until she flipped out repeatedly, being insulting and stomping her wee feet.

There is back history here quite beyond the initial loss of land.

Oh, and "because you said so"?

My. I didn't realise I was speaking to The Authority.
Nina Stepford
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07-02-2007 09:06
it is my perogative to use the term 'put in the boot'. i do not need to be an authority to use that term as it isnt an authorative phrase by any means.
and any back history is obviously irrelevent as you already stated you initially felt symathy toward her, right?
its no wonder she is being insulting when faced with a clan of mates caught up in a pack mentality. no doubt her irrational posts fuel your constant comments. no doubt you all see her as an easy mark and an easy laugh with little worry of any real counter. it makes me ill.
like i said, if you want to have a go, have a go at me mate.
Coyote Momiji
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07-02-2007 09:11
"Pack mentality"?

Perhaps viewing everyone who has a problem with her insults and her flares of melodrama as part of a "pack" is your prerogative. I find it amusing.

She became insulting long before there were insults flung at her - unless you view "sorry, but you're SOL" as an insult, in which case these are probably not the forums for you.

Back history is not irrelevant - unless, of course, you have to have a black-and-white view of what is going on in this thread.
Don Mill
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07-02-2007 09:20
From: Nina Stepford
opinions will conflict, yes. but that does not preclude acting like a civil adult does it?
its putting the boot in because i said so. it is not dependant upon her saying anything at all. if you all would like to have a go at somebody, have a go at me.
a person was upset about losing some land. rather than taking that into account when judging the thread, instead you chose to judge the person, critisise the person, belittle the person, act arrogant, and you wonder why she arced up?


Just show me, and everyone else for the matter, when did I behave judgemental, or were I did belittle her before she started attacking everyone.

FWIW, I am not trying to solve anything, I tried already.
Gina Jacks
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07-02-2007 09:36
From: Nina Stepford
it is my perogative to use the term 'put in the boot'. i do not need to be an authority to use that term as it isnt an authorative phrase by any means.
and any back history is obviously irrelevent as you already stated you initially felt symathy toward her, right?
its no wonder she is being insulting when faced with a clan of mates caught up in a pack mentality. no doubt her irrational posts fuel your constant comments. no doubt you all see her as an easy mark and an easy laugh with little worry of any real counter. it makes me ill.
like i said, if you want to have a go, have a go at me mate.


Thank you Nina.

Unfortunately, it's like in the Matrix, you know, the agents Smiths...
- They keep coming back.


As Dab say, only dead fish follow the stream.

I also note that the people who are on my ignore list, keep arguing with the people who are not on my ignore list. I will never get along with the former, and if we were at a party or something like that, you would be talking to the hand.

Long live Jesus Christ, long live Joan of Arch. The world against 1, nothing new here, bunch of cowards and followers. You are lucky it's a forum, if we were face to face you'd be sorry for your insolence. Here I cannot slap you in the face, or/and I have to watch the words I use, I find it much SMARTER to MUTE YOU and at the same time refuse to argue with fools, I might be mistaken for one.

One of you has managed to get many threads locked, most importantly my poll as ben locked. It's ok, I have faith and do not expect support or help from people like you and your disciples.

At least I try, on day when you'll wake, if you are lucky enough, you will realize that you locked the wrong threads indeed, and that you did a mistake, and YOU were the mistake.

I am not surprised by your reactions and insolence, Jesus said: "If you follow me, be prepared for the world to hate you". It's happening, and I am not surprised.

You know what? Who knows... one day you might turn into a bot!

For the people who share my view point, I love you all and thank you for the support, and I would say to you, time as come to use the simplest natural weapons we have here;


"The_Ignore_List".


Remember, when it's time for the devil to come knocking at your door, give your flesh, not your soul. You will be safe.
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Coyote Momiji
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07-02-2007 09:48
That post, nina, was pure comedy. Thank you.
Ann Launay
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07-02-2007 09:52
So, if we disagree on any point Gina makes, we're not only in collusion with the bot runners, we're anti-God? Um, OK...

Wasn't that Jesus fellow always going on about loving thy neighbor and turning the other cheek and all of that?
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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Brenda Connolly
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07-02-2007 09:52
From: Ann Launay
So, if we disagree on any point Gina makes, we're not only in collusion with the bot runners, we're anti-God? Um, OK...

Wasn't that Jesus fellow always going on about loving thy neighbor and turning the other cheek and all of that?

And look where it got him........ :rolleyes:
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Ann Launay
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07-02-2007 09:54
From: Brenda Connolly
And look where it got him........ :rolleyes:


One of the dominant religious figures in history, even after a couple thousand years of no direct contact?
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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Gina Jacks
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07-02-2007 09:57
Coyote, I see that you have posted after me, again, I don't know what you are saying and I don't want to know either, but one thing is sure, you have called me Hoover, and this is a direct insult, the first time you tried to say something to me, you could not help it and follow the crowd and being insolent to me. I would be surprised if you said anything nice to me on your post above. You too are on my ignore list, have the guts to ignore please. Be strong.
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07-02-2007 09:58
From: Ann Launay
One of the dominant religious figures in history, even after a couple thousand years of no direct contact?

I was thinking more along the lines of that little tiff he had with the Romans, but that's a good one too.
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Tyci Kenzo
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07-02-2007 09:58
From: Gina Jacks
. You are lucky it's a forum, if we were face to face you'd be sorry for your insolence. Here I cannot slap you in the face, or/and I have to watch the words I use, I find it much SMARTER to MUTE YOU and at the same time refuse to argue with fools, I might be mistaken for one.



ill be sure and report this since you are now taking things to RL threats people were nice to you but pointed out you made a mistake you didnt chose to look at the ammount you typed in before going thru more than one confirm box just because people do not agree with you does not mean you can threaten them, you are acting younger then my children and i question your age and maturity level that you have to act like this
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