Anybody else starting to think LL is like 2 guys in their mom's garage?

And J.B. Hunt started out with an old used 1/2 ton pick-up truck hauling rice hulls between Lowell and Ft. Smith, Arkansas. If you are comparing, are you comparing the luck of Jobs, Gates, Hewlett-Packard (or even J.B. Hunt)? Or their strategies to success? They all may have had dreams of dominating the world in their chosen field but they did not go out an announce to the world that they were "cutting edge" and would be the next generation anything. But all of them managed to get their little nitch in history.They simply worked hard, served their customers and did not ever ignore the people they were trying to satisfy........and actually did become cutting edge for their time. Even Bill Gates fixes his stuff when it becomes obvious it's broke.

Besides the OP was talking about Butthead and Beavis.

You can't seriously be comparing some homegrown thing with 121 people online to SL, with over 30,000 people online at times... *shakes her head*

Yes, Microsoft, Apple, Hp, ect. started in a garage. The problem is LL is still in the garage, they are sharing it with a rusted car up on blocks, the roof leaks and they are running everything on one frayed extention cord.

To the best of my knowledge, Bill Gates did not start Microsoft in a garage.

As I mentioned previously, it was Wozniak and Jobs who started Apple Computer in the Jobs famaily garage. Likewise, Bill Hewlett and Dave Packard started HP in a garage. Microsoft, being a software company from the start, had no need for a garage.

Anyone remember Windows 1.0? Windows 2.0? Windows ME? Or the Apple Lisa?

See the movie " pirates in silicon valley "

Bill gates did start in a garage as did Macs as already pointed out ^^

i did mention it wasnt teh same size only the concept

alas i started at 3.1

Dos 3.1? Lol

Why should they care about all this? They are the ones laughing all the way to the bank with our money and advise us to 'have patience' we will sort it out someday. blah..blah..

Cheers

Good point!!!! LOL We all are being duped by LL

Dos 3 (ish) and a 286 IBM (the first one I owned with a hard disk!!)

A Vickie type thing with 5.25 floopy's before that

Wurmonline is at best, vastly more limited than SL. The scope an ability to create is very limited as are features like streaming video and music as well as user based scripting. Wurmonline is to Second life what Space invaders is to Doom. Hardly a serious comparison.

Eve online is a static world where you cannot even leave your starship to walks around the space station. Again hardly a meaningful comparison.

So how many people are bailing out?

adding to the list. AppleII+, Apple IIc, The Peanut --> The IBM First affordable PC )


Fortran, Apple Basic, coupler Modems,Normal Television

And Walt Disney, and Thomas Edison. a Lot of Great invention, and innovation displaced automobiles.

Bailing? Bailing on the whole SL thing or just on premium? I'm about to do the latter.............no reason to remain premium except for the 500 L stipend. But over three months I can buy quite a bit more than 6,000 lindens for my $22.50 USD.

I don't pay much for this game but back when I because premium about a year ago I was really loving the concept (guess I still do) and wanted to see the improvements and be a part of the growth of the whole thing. But, I'm losing some (actually quite a bit) of that earlier enthusiasm. It's not all about the crashes and "outages" (when you can't log on it's an outage.............or when you are on and you can't do a thing it's an outage too). It's more about the lack of concern for the needs of the very people who are really trying to help out by being part of the whole thing. Seems all the new growth has preduced more than a normal number of "takers"................people who just want things, demand things, and who take things.

And all the people like me want in return is a little understanding of our needs. Help when we ask, dependability when we expect it, protection of our "things", and most of all not to be ignored.

Sorry for my mini rant.

I still can't get that picture of Butthead and Beavis out of my mind LOL

I have a friend that purchased a big amount of money and been living off that for a year. I believe he get payed 50l per week.( because he been playing for almost 2 years now. But not a full account.


"I still can't get that picture of Butthead and Beavis out of my mind LOL" ehehhe well after 2 + years it become second nature of thinking that way joking


Usagi

I don't remember ever seeing a Lisa in person, but I used to own a Mac 128.

I haven't been able to find any confirmation for this. The consensus seems to be that Gates and Allen started out in their dorm rooms, and then opened their office in Albuquerque.

See, for example, this IEEE timeline. Or just search for "Microsoft history garage" and see what comes up.

And actually, Macs didn't start in the garage. The Apple I computer did. (I never used it, but I did do some work on the Apple II.) By the time the Mac was being developed, Apple was an established company. (A cynic might argue that the Mac began at Xerox PARC.)

Let me give a more serious response to this.

Software quality has always been the step-child of the software industry. Part of that is economics - people aren't willing to pay for quality. The race to get new features out ahead of the competition also contributes to this. But a major factor is that most of the people who are efficient at creating the software aren't nearly as good at testing, nor as interested in quality as a goal. It's impressive to show that something works, but showing that it always works is much harder and not nearly as impressive.

A distributed system of the size of SL has huge problems. The sort of queuing theory, database modeling, and failure modeling that can mange these problems are highly specialized skills. Modeling something like SL is very difficult, probably much more difficult than other web sites. (After all, Amazon doesn't let customers write scripts that run on their servers.) And even much more established companies run into trouble, when demand exceeds predictions or failure rates are higher than anticipated. So I'm willing to give them a little slack when it comes to keeping their database up.

On the other hand, when I see things like the removal of 57918 because of a "bad bug", I cringe. This seems to be a case of the inmates running the asylum. The fact that it was found so quickly suggests that it could have been found by good testing, but their SQA process lacks the controls needed to prevent these bugs from getting out. Or, as is often the case, the SQA team has little or no say in the matter. So, unlike the grid problems, this sort of failure is inexcusable, yet endemic in the software industry.

I wouldn't know, I stay and put up with it because if they ever get it right it will be a fantastic place. Money-wise I pay about US$35.00 a month (premium/land tier) but most the time I can either make that building/scripting, commissions from my machines, or just plain gambling.

So I'm not overly concerned because its not coming out of my pocket, but I do get pissed off when I can't do what I want to do here because its screwed up again..Also the fact that I'm just a plain bitch

Cheers