How to abuse report Fleas that hide inside your av?

While at Sandbox Island recently some dimwitted jackass's scripted particle "fleas" began to annoy me.

The object that generates these is very tiny, and locates itself inside your avatar body.

It would be real nice to use the standard "right click an object, select "More" until you get to the "Report Abuse"" option, and have the object's owner and object name be auto-filled in in the AR dialog.

You can't right click the object, even with character display turned off.

You can drag around the object to select it but that doesn't provide the functionality of right clicking and selecting Report Abuse.

Is there some way to right click an invisible object located inside your avatar that I can't figure out, or some other way to produce the pie menu options for an object that can't be right clicked?

That sounds danged annoying, Sue. I don't know an easier answer to extricate those fleas -- I'm moving this to Resident Answers in case anyone has any tips!

Hm if the object is really so close to you, you could use a script with short range sensor that detects owner and name of it, and even the objects key (unique ID code of the object).
You would still not be able to right click it and report, but you may fill a abuse report by hand with the infos.

Just make a prim, put the following script in it, wear it like on skull or somewhere you can click it, and move where you know nothing is around you except yourself and that fleas micro thing that keeps following you.

default
{
touch_start(integer total_number)
{
llSensor("", NULL_KEY, ACTIVE | PASSIVE | SCRIPTED, 5, PI);
}
sensor(integer sensed)
{
integer n=0;
for (n=0;n<sensed;n++)
{
llOwnerSay("Object Name: "+llDetectedName(n));
llOwnerSay("Object Key: "+(string)llDetectedKey(n));
llOwnerSay("Owner Name if in the Sim: "+llKey2Name(llDetectedOwner(n)));
llOwnerSay("Owner Key: "+(string)llDetectedOwner(n));
llOwnerSay("------------------------------------------------";
}
}
}

It is set to scan 5 meters around you, should be more then enough for something that keeps being inside your avatar.

Keep in mind that sensors have problems by sensing more then 15-16 objects, so like said, move in a place that nothing is around you in a 5 meters range, or just very few things.

You call that griefing?
When someone make you the fart pillow joke you want to sue him?

get real please.

So long its not consensual and keeps coming, i see that as abuse and annoyance, except its the land owner that spreads the fleas.

If its a physical following object, you need a friend to box select it so that it stays in place. While you move your avatar out of the way and right click on it to file the AR.

I'm dreaming
You get joked upon in rl in a consensual way often?

Couldn't we focuse on more important issues rather than a few little annoyances that put salt in your bland second life?

Non-consensual fleas are considered a gross act of terrorism and will affect one third of the population. No resident of the free world should be subjected to such fleas.

Sitting in a "Fart Pillow" as you describe is a One time effect. A momentary thing that can be avoided in Future, what Suzanne is describing is an Object that Attaches to you, and Follows you about consistently doing an Irritating thing, and has been Deliberately attached in a Fashion that makes it Next to Impossible to remove (Hence her post here asking for help) If you fail to see the Fundamental difference in the effect of these two items, I look forward to seeing you show up on the Police Blotter when someone "Can't Take" one of Your little Practicle Jokes.

Angel.

Here's a thought, why doesnt a Linden go to Sandbox Island, get some fleas on em, figure out how to identify the maker and suspend him. Oh wait, that would involve some effort and besides the griefer would just be back in the game with another unverified alt account in minutes. Nevermind.

There is no we

The sensor script is a good idea. Some of the person and object names one runs into in Second Life are best "typed" via cut and paste. One could perhaps add a call to llEmail to the script and have it send email to the abuse department. Or have it email yourself, then you could edit it as desired and forward it, or choose not to send it, as you choose. I don't know if this would produce the same result as an abuse report filed using the official AR dialog, though. They have the automated procedure for a reason.

Using another person to drag select the object is a clever idea, and could be done with an alt if a friend is not around.

As always, one can copy and paste that first abuse report and store it in someone's profile notes tab for later use.

These particular fleas, not necessarily set out by the same person, have on more than one occasion had numerous users driven to distraction, taking up the time of liaisons for multiple visits to the sandbox.

Thanks to those who responded with answers that addressed the question I asked.

I'm a common victim of those annoying fleas.
I already tried the friend box selection thing but without any good result. I will try the sensor idea. Looks nice.
Anyway; Suezanne, if you find a way to report those things please post it here.

Speaking of issues...

"In order to let go of control over others, you must first be convinced that they are the uncontrollables and unchangeables in your life and that the only one you can control and change is yourself."

http://www.coping.org/control/intro.htm

Suezanne - good luck and let us know how it turns out.

I made an object to simulate the fleas following behavior, set to follow only the owner, me.

Using the Client Render Type Character toggle, or Ctrl-Alt-Shift-4, I turned off the display of avatars.

This allowed me to see the object hidden inside.

I walked a few steps. There appears to be a bug in the way that one's avatar movement and nametag display is handled when the Character (i.e. avatar) display is turned off. In this state, as you press the walk forward key, your nametag remains still, but the object moves as if your avatar is moving- which it might well be doing. Now you can put the cursor over the object, right click it and get the pie menu, select more, then more again, and select Report Abuse.

So if the system responds in the same way to an actual flea annoyance object, I should be able to use this approach to easily get the abuse report dialog than comes pre-filled with the object's name and the object's owner name. The challenge is to remember this non-obvious procedure and for maximum convenience remember the avatar display toggle keystroke Ctrl-Alt-Shift-4.

A following object that hides inside your av doesn't have to be one that just has a swarm of black particles, it could be doing something much more aggravating.

Heh, just had another of SL's little annoyances, about which there is naught to be done but to be alert: while writing this post, sandbox clearing time occured, so my pseudo-flea vanished.

--- addendum ---

I didn't have my pseudo flea turned alpha, so I was able to see it without turning highlight transparent on, which might affect the results of my test.

---- addendum two --

I redid it with the object made invisible by setting the texture to a pure alpha texture, and did this again with View Highlight Transparent on , and it still worked.

----

So the procedure to abuse report these fleas is:

Press Control Alt Shift 4 to toggle avatar display off.

Press Control Alt Shift T to toggle Highlight Transparent on.

Press the up arrow key to walk forward a bit.

Right click the flea to produce the pie menu, select more, more, report abuse, fill in abuse report fields as needed.

Before sending the report, select the text in the body of the report by pressing Control A, copy by pressing Control C, bring up the flea owner's profile, click on their notes tab, and paste the report into their notes section with Control V.

Then click in the AR dialog to send the report on it's way. Next time you need to file a report on the same person for the same thing you have a boilerplate of the text in their profile notes.

If they are the fleas from force prophecies (beast trick) detaching all attachments (try this part first)and removing all clothes (secondary) usually works. And no I'm not just trying to get you naked.

In RL, I don't associate with low-brow types, so getting 'joked apon' is not something I experience. And at work, this can is considered harassment and a hostile work environment. Why should I or anyone else tolerate in SL what we would not tolerate RL?

You sound like the type that likes to harass others, then shout Joke! Joke! when they get angry. Then try to make them be at fault because they don't find it funny (or adding salt to bland SL). Why is is so damn hard for people in SL just to leave others alone and out of their idiotic elementary school jokes? I'll take my SL bland, minus the 'tards with stunted senses of humor.

Works to do what? The fleas I am talking about are scripted physical pure alpha objects that follow you around, generating a particle cloud. I call them fleas because that is the name of the object. Detaching attachments won't stop the fleas, they aren't attachments. The flea's script don't know or care what textures your av is wearing.

I think the assumption on his part was that the Object, from which the Particles was emenating would Detach along with all your other attachments (As for the clothes part, i think he really IS trying to get you Naked) But if the Attachment is Owned by another person, and has just anchored it's self to you, I doubt his suggestion would work. You might try this though, The ProTEC shield system has a scripted Defence called "Disrupt", Once you know the Name of the Object, Type in the Attack (For example, if the Object is called "Fleas" it would be /5 Disrupt Fleas) and the Object will be Detached from you and Flung off the Sim. It works for Most (But not all) annoying objects. Costs a Bit, but i think it's worth it.

Angel.

PS: By all means Try the getting Naked, Nothing ventured, Nothing gained.

I didn't ask how to get rid of the fleas, I asked how to get the right click pie menu to come up on an object that is inside your av so that you can use the object's "Report Abuse" menu option, and I figured out how, as reported above.

Be that as it may, concerning how to get rid of them....

The fleas being physical, llPush could get rid of them. I'd just add "fleas" to the list of objects in my "Push Objects By Name" object. However the linden sandboxes are no-push now, so a push script like mine doesn't work there. But if you are on a private sandbox or other area where push is enabled, a push script should work fine. They are phantom, so I don't think you can block them away with objects.

For those who are trying to build in the sandboxes, these fleas annoy using particles. The object inside your av causes little or no problem in and off itself, it's the particles that are bothersome. So if you don't mind turning off particle display, that is a simple way to keep doing your building without having to find somewhere else to work. Particle display toggling is on Client Rendering Types Particles or Control Alt Shift =.

Actually, no. I'm a user of force prophecies and thats what work. The fleas from it will be 'lured' to any clothing layer or attachment on an avatar. If there fleas are from another product though I don't have the experience to make sugestions.

The fleas I am aware of do no attach to you through any normal method, just follow, multiply, fight amongst themselves and spread. They can aslo jump completely from you to another avatar. Theres a reason I have a 'no rez' greay/white 'unloaded' skin.

Could you try running an animation that offsets your avatar to the side/front?

Since animations don't actually change the server-side position of your avatar, a follower won't follow them..

Should actually work, but guess you have the same effect with not letting the avatar render at all.

The report system Suezanne said may not work with zero mass objects. Didnt test it myself yet, but heard that zero mass tortured prims cant be right click selected. May be that the "fleas" go on people with something attached, and that does not mean standard clothes, so keep your panties on ^^.

-Okay, first if you don't want to be exposed to these "low brow" stay in your own land so you won't meet peoples that could potentially disrupt your little life.

-You aren't at work, and even if you work in sl, SL is a virtual universe, nobody is behind your desk trying to grope your chest or kiss you aains your will its just a few damn particles.

-I do not "sound like X." you don't know me, and even if you do you don't know me enough to make any type of valid judgement, so please do not drift into personal attacks.

-If you want to be left alone, maybe online communities aren't made for you and you should concentrate on softwares, like 3Ds max wich will allow you to do the same building/scripting without being bothered by other peoples.

Now the abuse report is more or less a meaningless tool, 100 junk abuses like this one about flea for one serious and valid.
There are other peoples in this game.

You really "sound like X.", and you started making it personal, in fact you just attacked some people posting in this thread because you think only your point of view is good. If all your 1500+ posts are like the ones in this thread, I see now why LL did limit the forums the way they did. The topic is "How to abuse report Fleas that hide inside your av?", if you dont want or arent able to stick to it, you may want to go elsewhere to spread your "way of life", is someone may care about it. And no, telling that there is no reason to stop the Fleas particles isnt on topic, the thread starter asked HOW, not IF. Your opinion about the meaning of reporting Fleas particles and people that want AR them isnt required.



The point is, aside from who does have a little life or not, communities are made of a heterogeneous group of people that need to respect each other and each other's point of view, otherwise it cant work well. So if I got a nice looking Fleas sytem with particles that follows people, but this does annoy some of this people in the community, and I dont stop annoying them while I know that this is an annoyance for them, no matter if I find this action annoying or not, seeing that my personal opinion does not make a community standard that needs to be accepted by the whole community, I becoming in fact the attacker, the griefer, the one that does hurt other's people freedom by overdoing in my own freedom. If we want to define such persons as "low brow", then its the "low brow" that should stay on the own land or maybe concentrate on 3D applications outside SL, to not hurt other people's freedom. Dont think Maklin want to be left alone, think he just wants to be respected like you would.

You say it yourself:


So far anything I said is obvious, is common sense. If I have to explain that to you because your posts are clearly against this common sense, then you are actually the one that maybe "online communities aren't made for you".

So by reminding you that Forum attacks are handled like ingame attacks, seen already some in the Police Blotter, I respectfully ask you to stop bothering the posters in this thread.