COPYBOT - Seperating Fact from fiction...

Well someone who would use copybot in an unscrupulous manner likely has GLintercept too, so getting the textures is pretty much a given, in my opinion.

The combination of those two programs is cause for justified alarm on the part of content creators.

Matter of time really, since the current 'protection' of inability to use texture picker to lift texture you don't own is merely client-side lock, isn't it?

Of course, it can be currently done with slice and sifting through the cache files, and a bit of LSL... which no doubt will be used as justification when someone goes ahead and simplifies it to single in-world click of mouse button.

Well I've seen that too, the relog and still me thing. We assumed it was being stored in the cache. His avie shape wasn't saved, it reverted to a Ruth, and the shoes were only half there.

Did your friend try taking off the clothing and see if he could put anything back on?

Yeah but GLintercept has been around for a while now. It's also a real pain in the ass to use and you would need to sort through a gazillion image files to find the one you want. It slows SL to a practical standstill even in the middle of nowhere, only the most determined thief would do it with a lot of avies or objects around. I think that is why texture theft hasn't gone berserk. But copybot makes it point and click easy to copy prims. I guess it's just a matter of time before any texture is stolen the same way.

And no, I haven't used it to steal textures lol. I was curious and wanted to see how this was being done. I haven't even sold anything in SL yet, what is ironic is that copybot hit SL the same day I bought land for my first store, heh.

So. You're saying that everyone must put their items in vendors? That's going to go over real well at Depoz, to name just one.

I guess we can all breathe easy since the only things at risk are houses, furniture, attachments, AV's, and practically anything else, but hey, the SCRIPTS are safe. For now.

coco

GLintercept can be configured to remedy most of that which you describe. I won't go into details here though, for obvious reasons.

Someone who can figure out how to use CopyBot can probably figure out how to tweak GLintercept.

That said, I agree with you, it is probably a matter of time, and this is one reason why I will never sell my custom texture sets in SL.

As I have said elsewhere, LL is simply using this group over over-enthusiastic reverse engineers to do work that should be being done by LL employees. Every single other developer I can think of does. They need to hire them and get them under NDA's, or sever ties. The libSL folks need more of an incentive to be more ethical and tight lipped than pats on the head from LL employees who stroke their egos.

On ego. Baba has said they were proud, and wanted to show it off. We are being lectured continuously here on this forum by tech types who treat us like we're all a bunch of brainless monkeys who don't understand that SL is insecure. They're over on the blog repeating ad infinitum this mantra that "nothing is safe and never has been". I see a LOT of haughtiness emanating from techies, and it really isn't helping their case.

I am so suprised they are not under NDA's etc. that was the biggest failing of LLs imho and i would imagine to that the libSL crew have not been subjected to the normal backgroud checks most companies make when allowing people to play with sensitive code etc. Yes we all know that the internet is not safe etc. we dont need a bunch of idiots making it even easier for people to get hold of the code and yes it is libSLs fault for that happening as they cant even keep their own work secure but want to release and boast about it.

I agree to that they have a very patronising and condesending manner when posting to the forums/blogs, whilst i agree we need Devs to help expand SL and secure holes, i think the manner that this lot have been allowed to get away with this is totally beyond me and LLs have not seemingly been to bothered about it, but i do hope they prove me wrong as i enjoy this platform immensly but Pandoras box has been opened and changed SL in so many ways.

The in world group is open enrollment, and the code repository gives full anonymous access.

Yup pure madness, but in a way fun to watch LL slit their own throats while getting all starry eyed about people holding the razor for them...

Your are so wicked but i like your thinking

Well, I guess a real thief would be more patient than I was with the thing, heh. But then again, maybe not. Texture theft would be much worse if GLi didn't need tweaking and such.

I work for hours on my textures and I fully intend to sell them with my objects. I'm not letting thieves dictate my standards or what I will or will not do. Anything worth doing is worth doing well, to me. Otherwise I wouldn't bother. I'm not interested in making or selling things that are made of common textures and with what we will be selling they aren't available anyway, they must be uniquely made. I won't get all emotional about it because I've made that decision beforehand, since GLintercept was available long before copybot. Now everyone is going to have to make the decison about their objects potentially being ripped off as well.

Yes, he completely took everything off and copied my ugly av, relogged and the normal 'me' was in his inventory.

Thing is, I'm testing the v1.0 version of this, the Widely available version to anybody with a internet connection. The higher versions are a bit tougher to get and modify. And if anybody can actually make this copy everything, then they actually have some skills and are determined enough to make peoples lives miserable.

Oh absolutely! But when those people start giving that away to others in a nice little package... then it becomes an even bigger problem.

While we're at it, let's vote for world peace and food for the hungry, and a cure for cancer!

LibSecondLife is already out there. You can't uncreate it. Such a vote is a waste of everyone 's time.

If enough people vote on it, if enough people raise a stink about it, perhaps LL will start encrypting thier protocols before they reach the client so that way copying like this will be that much harder to do.

But as usual, there is always someone out there trying a bigger and better mousetrap, yet theres always another making a bigger and better mouse...

No but we can keep bringing it to the attention of others how much LL oozes over them for doing thier jobs.