Is griefing getting worse?

And by that I don't mean "is it becoming more common". I literally mean, are griefers not as good at griefing as they used to be. I can remember some incredibly imaginative griefing from a year ago or so. But today's griefers just don't seem to have the same spirit of adventure that hose of yesteryear did.

Here's an example, I was today in a shop as an alt. A newbie with expensive weaponry (and therefore an alt, obviously) tried to cage me. This did not affect me at all, as I could still browse the goods. He then caged himself and couldn't get out. I got out of the cage in the usual way and walked to the other end of the store to look at some goods there, all the while calmly ignoring him as if nothing had happened. What does he say? He says "Hey, what about me?", as if I somehow had an obligation to get him out of the cage he had incompetently put himself in.

Seriously, griefers today are nothing compared to the griefers we had when I were a lad. It's a sad reflection on our society today I think.

I was at NCI the other night and observed 2 Adolescent Acting girls take great joy in Bumping and Pinning obvious looking Newbs. (They knew better than to come near me)
They were laughing and snickering, all in open chat, when one says "Oh, it's even better when you fly into them. Watch" They proceeded to carry out Kamikazee attacks on one poor girl looking at freebies. I had seen enough. I stepped in front of the girl and shouted out to both of them , by name to knock it off or I will be ARing them. They laughed and TP'ed away, after calling me a few names, that in my neighborhood are actually terms of endearment. I tried to explain to the victim how to send an AR but he wasn't an English speaker. I felt bad for her.

That's just beyond pathetic. I know people are always telling others who've been griefed what they could have done at the time to protect or defend themselves. But when you've been in world for the first five minutes or even the first five days you most likely don't know that. It's sad that maybe the first thing residents should be put through is training in self-defense and how to not get ripped off or scammed.

EDIT: Maybe some of the new resident portals (or whatever they are calling them) will have something like that.

hahahaha!

coco

LOL. Good one. I would have danced in front of him and gave him a Neener Neener.

Just to put it perspective, my alt is a female (and a damn fine lookin' one too!) that I use when I like a change now and then. The griefer said "Strip and I'll let you out". I politely explained that I could escape the cage any time I liked, but that at the current time being caged was causing me no inconvenience. It was at this point that he caged, and infact orbitted, himself, ending up stuck on the extremely high ceiling of the room.

Afterwards I realised that it would have been even more fun to acquiesce to his demands and strip for him, and then after he had reached "satisfaction" explained that I am a guy and given him a RL pic. Damn that would have been fun to see his reaction. If it happens again, that's what I will do.

L M A O !!!

I would SO have been TPing my friends in to mock him mercilessly.



It's hard to believe these two girls were old enough to be on the adult grid. I mean that is just some MASSIVELY immature behavior.

Damn, now I'm all angry!



I like the sound of Brenda's neighborhood!

Ha ha. I like the way you think. Bring her to the next meeting. We can compare notes.

It might be a bit intense for a sweet California Girl.......

I have been told by a friendly law enforcement officer that I have an FBI file for being "subversive". I must be doing SOMETHING right!

Griefers today are just spoiled !!. Back in the days when I was a young griefer we didn't even have fingers, we had to use our nose to type commands.....and at night out father would thrash us to sleep with his belt................but, we were happy *grin*

I think yes... some of the attacks are cruel and humiliating and seem to be meanspirited some griefing attacks attach to the victim and follow them even if they tp away... not cool . But it sounds like this griefer was funny .

Elinah

It's because they can just buy griefing items now instead of having to make them. No imagination!

The best griefing I've seen is a ball labeled "Clone Trooper Salute" that when you click on it a menu of the local people pops up and if you click one of the people you automatically start a humping animation and attach to the selected person's head. Some poor soul did this in a group of people I was in and crashed right after attaching so the av was still there for like 3 minutes.

Combine this with the fact that it was on the beta grid with voice chat and it was the funniest thing ever.

humpee: "GET OFF OF ME!!!"
humper: "OH NO! I'M SORRY I'M SORRY!" >crash<

classic material!

OMG! I am laughing so hard I'm seeing stars!

For the record, how exactly is someone 'caged' and how does one get out of it? I've never had this happen to me (thank goodness!) but it might be a good thing to know in case it does.

Usually you are drunk. And the only way out is Divorce..... Oh you mean in SL?

HA! We got banned from somewhere. I will refrain from saying where, suffice to say it has nice shops around it's fairly crappy sex area full of newbies with boners.

I mean, me a griefer? Come off it!

However we'd been off in C Tech messing about with each other and we were going to go shopping with a friend. Totally forgot what we had been doing. Arrived on the sim, I took off my backpack as I arrived and there pops up the owner.

Get those weapons off now (in my case they are off).

I dunno. Maybe him telling her she can kiss his entire ass wasn't a concilliatory thing to do but she was really rude. I personally am unarmed and had just typed 'Its ok we're not going to start shooting anything up' and I see I am in midair and my av is bouncing. My friend who said 'They didn't do anything' was also banned and she is FURIOUS cos she has never been banned from anywhere.

The owner IMmed me to say 'you noobs don't know anything you'll crash my server' so I told her that what was crashing her server was the 101 people ALREADY THERE ...

So it isn't just the griefers getting less inventive/useful. The irony is that both myself and my friend Vera used to dedicate hours on end at Archan kicking butt and fighting griefing for no money at all, and we managed to do it with humour and turn what was meant to be a pain into an entertainment for the masses ...

I say to the sim owner that perhaps she might want to clear her BS overflow and get some brains (and limit the amount of people on her sim if she doesn't like it crashing).

HA!

My usual response to such (wannabe) griefers is something like an IM with a calm "Welcome to my abuse report". I must say it's quite a wakeup call. In case they TP away, my line is something like "You may run, but you can never hide. And running makes it even worse." - it helps much if they see that even TPing away doesn't get them out of the hot water.

If they understand that their behaviour had been intolerable I may be reasoned with to click on the close button of the AR window rather than the submit button. But if they don't I'll just add their insults (or actions against me) to the AR and off it goes.

Oh yeah I LOVE adding the stream of abuse to the AR and then letting them know their continued abuse is only making it longer

You guys seem to think that an AR is some kind of terrifying weapon that will strike fear into the heart of every griefer. You and I and every two bit newb out there knows nobody gives a crap about ARs.

That said, I've always found all attempts at griefing completely laughable. Unless you're bringing down the grid you're not going to have an affect on me at all. I don't have any super powered defenses or any super powered weapons I simply don't care about my location.

A cager is a small firearm type weapon that fires a bullet which, when striking an avatar, encloses them in a small cage. Many of these cages are programmed to then fly into orbit at many thousands of feet in the air. Most people get caged at some point, as the weapon is exceptionally common (I have several variants myself). I'd love to tell you how to get out of the cage, it's ridiculously simple and easy to escape from, but I don't want to say on this forum on the off-chance the griefers are watching. I'll IM you in world to tell you later on.



Elanthius is right. Griefers are usually alts, and a determined griefer will just make a new one. In theory, SL can bar a specific IP address - but I've never heard of it actually happening - and even if it did, the griefer can just claim something like "It was my little brother; I'm a legitimate resident."

I say, follow the "Fist of the North Star" rule, in which violence should be met with even more extreme violence.

Griefer-busting can bet thoroughly entertaining my favourite is to cage a griefer, but rather than let it orbit, you can grab the cage using the Ctrl+left mouse and just fling it around all over the place. Good times.

Oh, and shooting people with the melon cannon is always good value for money. People who deserve it obviously.

I don't have any illusions about LL's responsiveness on abuse reports myself. But the usual wannabe's I've met so far obviously didn't know about that.

So... whatever gets the job done.

LOL that is fun as hell

LOL...nice, you should write action movie dialogue

(takes notes)