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Upsetting the Jones's

Mia Darracq
Designer Wannabe
Join date: 28 Aug 2006
Posts: 228
02-15-2007 13:04
As soon as we see them land in our sim, they are frozen and given 30 secons to remove the board. If they do not remove it, they are ejected, if they come back, they are banned. The owner's of the sim did not pay thousands of dollars for a private sim to have someone else advertise their stuff on that private sim.
Ric Dulce
Registered User
Join date: 21 Jul 2005
Posts: 6
LillyBeth
02-15-2007 13:45
I give you credit LillyBeth for realizing and posting now that you understand what an annoyance and how unfair this type of practice is. One good thing that comes from this is this company has been exposed to bad publicity and other store owners will not make the same mistake. Everyone can learn a lesson from what has happened. Its unfortunate it was at your expense.
Cheyenne Marquez
Registered User
Join date: 19 Sep 2005
Posts: 940
02-15-2007 15:35
From: LillyBeth Filth
Would I want someone in my store advertising my competition? Hell no! But thats not the case here and I did say not to have them doing that. No visits to other texture stores.


You have to be careful of the business practices you endorse because what you clearly state above you would not like, is exactly what will begin happening soon. People are an enterprising lot. How much more business do you believe these billboard enterprises stand to make if they began offering services for those who would stoop so low as to request that these billboards spam their direct competitor so long as they could claim ignorance by saying "Im sorry but I have nothing to do with it," just as you are doing?

And as it has already been mentioned, they are an eye sore, cause lag, eat up resources, and are an inconvenience to your customers who may wish to shop in peace. You may be the exception, but everyone I know despises the blight that comes with too much advertisement, commercialism, and solicitation billboards.

From: LillyBeth Filth
Its a new concept and a briliant one ...


It really isnt. You just havent thought it through. But you will when your entire sim and store are awash with them...

And many will be sporting shiny billboards advertising your own competitors.

Edit: I jumped the gun and posted before reading through the thread and just noticed Lillybeth's post understanding the downsides to this endeavor.
Angelique LaFollette
Registered User
Join date: 17 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,595
02-15-2007 20:27
From: Ric Dulce
B Dazzled has NOT muted anyone on this subject and we have responded to the appropriate parties. We do take full responsibility for our actions and stand firm to our beliefs. We do not appreciate billboard av's camping at our store without prior permission. We work very hard for our money and choose to help out newbies and our customers with a place to shop, have fun and make some lindens. We have a very busy sim. It hurts our business and our customers to have bot avs clogging up the camping spots that are intended for our paying customers. It causes lag, it fills up the sim so shoppers cannot get in and they are taking OUR money while advertising someone elses products. I find this a poor business practice and stand firm by our decision that they are not allowed in our stores. I ejected 5 of these bot avs in about 10 minutes. Before doing so I Imed them to let them know they were not welcome in our store. Not one of them responded or left willingly. As soon as I ejected and banned them I could see them trying to get back into our store. When I pay for advertising I am personally responsible for the content that is being advertised and how it is being presented. So to say they are not your employees and you have no control over them is just insane. If you pay a company to do a job then they are your responsibility. Now im told to keep them from coming to my property I have to place out an eye sore sign and use my prims that we pay for to place their sign. If a store owner is contacted prior and there are arrangements made and both parties agree to this type of advertising then so be it. We were not asked nor did we give anyone permission to advertise on our land.


My point exactly, Now, this Misbehaviour on the part of the Walking Billboards has attached a Lot of negative feeling to the company being advertised on the boards. The Advertising company's attitude telling people to Post signs has just worsened the Stigma.

In RL, i work in the Field of security. Long ago, when my Company was looking after a tower with a large Parking Lot, an advertising company sent it's people into our lot (They had to Circumvent a secured gate) and had them place ads on All the vehicles in the Lot. We contacted the Company being advertised, and had a rather terse talk with them in which we asked them to have their advertising company send someone to our lot to collect all the Hand Bills, or we would have our cleaners do it, and Invoice them (Exorbitantly) for the Clean-up.
We checked with our Lawyers. Ultimately, the client who Hired the advertisers WERE liable for any problems caused by the Flyer deliveries because those doing so were acting as agents of that client, whether what they were doing was at the express instruction of the client company or Not.

That's RL Law. SL doesn't have that, it just has peoples Perceptions, and those perceptions closely Mirror the Law in that, It is your name on the Ads, They Belong to you so YOU are responsible for them.

What the advertising company really needs to do is Build for it's self a list of places where the Property owners (Various large malls for example) have Granted thier permission for the ads to be displayed at regular intervals in return for some small retainer fee made up from a percentage of the Clients Charge for the service. If there were a small financial consideration to the property owners, they would probably be Willing. The client Buys an Ad package that has a Set Number of Locals that the Billboards go to, the Charge is determined by the Advertising agencies own fees Plus the stipends necesary to Open the Doors.
a Little more complex, But it Guarantees the ads for your product will be received well, instead of getting you Hate Mail.

Angel.
Usagi Musashi
UM ™®
Join date: 24 Oct 2004
Posts: 6,083
02-15-2007 21:02
I saw those things a few days ago and wondered what they were. Oh gesg i sorry to hear that happening to you. Really we don`t want this to grow out of hand..Hope it works out for you.

Usagi
Liralen Lawl
Registered User
Join date: 18 Jan 2007
Posts: 59
02-15-2007 22:45
I'm not a shop owner, but rather am a shopper. I've seen the walking billboards, had a flash of admiration for the cleverness of the idea, then have been ignoring them ever since. I've never once looked to see what they were advertising.

i.e., I doubt if they are effective even if the avatar is innocuous. So I can readily see how they could be detrimental if the avatar misbehaves. I'd probably take a closer look at them then, just to put the advertiser on my "avoid that place" list.
Soen Eber
Registered User
Join date: 3 Aug 2006
Posts: 428
02-16-2007 05:48
I just think its horribly tacky and would never buy from anyone who advertised this way, unless they were set up in a clearly commercial area where advertising was to be expected such as a mall concourse. Of COURSE it's going to draw the lowest common denominator and cause problems. This whole system of micropayments for advertising or (in the case of camping chairs) gaming the system is just an abuse (my opinion only) of what this game could be.

Advertising is good when you want to buy something - i.e. go to a website or browse classifieds. When I don't want to buy something, I don't want it forced on me. In the former case the advertising is under my control. In the latter it is not, and that makes the difference.
Cherry Czervik
Came To Her Senses
Join date: 18 Feb 2006
Posts: 3,680
02-16-2007 06:15
Personally I find the idea of wearing something like that demeaning - and ultimately it must surely affect the way in which people interact with you if you're wearing them. 1930's Depression Era? No thanks!
Hotspur Otoole
Registered User
Join date: 4 Jan 2007
Posts: 95
02-16-2007 07:43
We had a fellow wander into Thyris and stand around our place doing that. The property owner asked him several times to explain his presence, and he didn't reply. So we gleefully place-kicked him through the goal posts.

H.
Maja Koenig
Registered User
Join date: 21 Jan 2007
Posts: 41
02-18-2007 15:04
I met a friendly guy last week wearing a billboard like that, it was weird and hard to take him seriously when he was dressed like a walking billboard. So I understand what Cherry says when she says it affects the way those around someone interacts with them. Unfortunatly while I was chatting with him someone came up and shot him, and he headed for outer space. I kinda felt bad for him because the sight of his billboard clad self heading for the stars made me lol.
Gordon Wendt
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Join date: 10 May 2006
Posts: 1,024
02-18-2007 19:50
From: Hotspur Otoole
We had a fellow wander into Thyris and stand around our place doing that. The property owner asked him several times to explain his presence, and he didn't reply. So we gleefully place-kicked him through the goal posts.

H.



You should have instead gone for the two point conversion, i.e. bounced him up to like 300 feet, cubed him, then glitched him out not that I endorse any of those tactics as they are violations of the TOS and of the CS.
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