Ban lines lower now?

Maybe I missed this in some update announcement, but it seems that for the last little while I've noticed that ban lines only go up to 100m anymore. Didn't they used to go to 200m or so?

Anyway, it's great! Much easier to fly around and not crash into invisible barriers all the time.

I noticed them lower since last week, so this is not new...

doesn`t matters if they ran up to 4000m, u can`t have any privacy just keep idiots off ur land but it does make flying abit easier

They were lowered last fall after pilots complained about crashing their planes into ban lines. The Lindens' compromised by lowering the ban lines, and Pilots agreed to stay 100m above the ground.

yea right.....the griefters will abuse this feature AGAIN!

Then punish the griefers, not the aviation enthusiasts.

Well how many timesdo i see people flying where they should`nt be......there is no repect for someone else property lines......lowering it will just cause more problems.....

What fundamentally is the point of ban lines?

We don't have any in Otherlands 40+ sims and everybody is much happier as a result. Sailors can sail wherever they want ( assuming there is sea ) and AVs can fly around wherever they want.

If you don't like somebody ban an individual - not everybody.

Try living in the sim next to a busy sandbox, or next to a site that has tons of freebies for newbies, or near a Welcome Area, or near any 'popular' site that attracts large numbers of new residents. Try placing individual bans on all the new Players that come tromping through your home and try to join in on your private moments with your mate. Try enjoying your land when you're under seige by people who don't yet even know that most of the land in SL is privately owned. You'll soon see a reason to implement ban lines for something other than specified griefers.

I gave up on living on the mainland because there were too many cases where the only way to enjoy my home at all was to ban anyone not in my household.

I moved to a private island that is zoned residential, and most of the time all I need now for security is an orb for my skybox. But when I lived on the mainland, the only thing that kept us from being 'under seige' was banning all accounts with no payment info from our land, and occasionally making that a ban on anyone not in our household.

But there are a lot of places in SL where if you don't have ban lines up, you get treated like all of your property was the monkey exhibit in the zoo. And where far too many of the spectators are abusive brats.

Ban lines that stop at 100 meters for anyone not explicitly banned by name are almost a complete waste. That makes it impossible to protect a skybox from intruders unless you install an agressive security orb.

I just pray that the Lindens act soon on the "Privacy in a pocket" feature request, which they acknowkedged as worth doing. Then a skybox can be protected, and people can still fly freely above and below it.

Just installed a new security orb to keep people above 200 m over my land. Have fun. Now you trespassers have contributed to sim lag. If you lose your plane because you get ejected..don't blame me.


Lower ban lines haven't affected me.

Amy- I don't want anyone but people I specifically allow there. I don't like everybody.

Hmmm. Had a person show up on my parcel the other day, I was building at the time. He walked right into the house, no hello or nothin'. I asked him if he walked into strangers homes in rl, he replied that the door wasn't locked to keep him out. I asked him if a door is unlocked in rl, does he walk right in? He replied that wasn't this what SL was all about? Then asked if it was some weird moral or ethical issue.

I banned him.

Fair enough - but its not very welcoming for a noob if the first thing you smack into is a ban line. Then I guess haven't been to the mainland really for months so I may not have much of a grip on what it's like over there

Luckily I live in a skybox and I don't get any trespasser newbs, since they can't fly over 200M

I don't put ban lines up. I have an object that will give a notecard to anyone approaching within 50 meters of my plot that trespassing is serious business and a federal crime, and then if they still resort to terrorizing me by stepping one foot on my land, I have a script that teleports them home without warning. As for anyone who dares encroach upon my airspace, I have strategic air defense that will shoot missiles at planes up to 700 meters.

Why? Because you can't be happy in SL without banning, punishing, and reporting anyone who dares come in direct contact with you

It is unfortunate that in LL's drive for raw numbers of signups, the basic necessities of new user orientation have until receltly been severely lacking. Recent changes to Orientation island do make that better, especially if they complete all 16 goals. But it is still possible to continue into SL with only 4 of those lessons completed, and to have completely missed such little useful bits of information like the fact that almost all land in SL already belongs to someone else, who paid real money for it.

I'm perfectly happy to welcome new people who act like polite and civilized individuals. I've spent more hours than I care to count helping new people learn to enjoy SL. But if they approach and treat my resources and myself as if it was all just game freebies and NPC's in a desktop computer game, where the object was to take anything that isn't nailed down? Such uncivilized people will rapidly get banned.

Which is annoying as hell when creating an alt

My guess is, a large bunch of us are just plain snobs. We're forgetting that we once were newbies. I have to admit that when I started my life in SL I wasn't aware of property lines, private homes, estates, etc. Hell, there is no SL manual that indicates this. So I did, walk into somebody's home without asking, but not to be rude. Simply because I hadn't been briefed on roles and regulations for land, public or not. I now own several homes in the mainland and PIs. I don't use ban lines because I hate to run into them when I'm flying around in my balloon. Every now and then, I get unexpected visitors dropping into the middle of my builds, and I treat them with respect and courtesy. I answer any questions they may have and then inform them on privacy issues and land ownership. So far, I haven't had to ban anyone, because once they are informed, they simply leave. If I want privacy, I simply tp to my skybox above 700 mts, very hard to find. It's up to us to educate newbies because LL won't do it. I say Bring Down The Walls!

Well, the last time I made an alt, I got through the 4 mandatory lessons and onto the mainland in less than 2 minutes. I didn't have to move more than 30 Meters total before I was done. So I didn't find it very annoying. (I made one and checked all the new stations, and later made a second where I zipped through as fast as I could.)

My Egotherapy Centre is a sort of shop although I live there part time too. So ban lines would be counter productive. Also people can stand next to my place and swing their camera view in through the wall to look inside - they'd still be able to do that if I had ban lines. Anyway I don't worry too much about my privacy in SL as nothing much 'naughty' goes on in my place and I'm not too worried if someone wanders in when I'm in my birthday suit anyway!

However, I still like the idea that we can use ban lines if we want to.

They make SL a very claustrophobic place.

But my cam reaches farther than your ban lines anyway--if I'm THAT curious. Which is rare.

Stop flattering yourselves.

Well I still think ban lines are rubbish and I'm glad that I'm not he only one who thinks that... there are enough borders and fences in RL why do we want to carry this over into our SL?

I agree....Damn the Ban!!!......(lines, that is)

Ban lines are useless anyway. They only serve to annoy innocent travellers. Someone goes across your property, big deal. If I were in charge, ban lines would not exist.

There. Fixed for ya.


Besides, if I get ejected outta my plane, or helicopter, or whatever, I just leave it there. You wanted to be an ass about ejecting, I can be an ass and leave my litter there.

As someone who's started sailing and flying lately, I can honestly say ban lines and the people who put them up over areas with "reasonable expectation of freedom of movement" suck ass. Nothing like trying to sail in between ban lines down a narrow, zig-zagged 8m wide protected path in the middle of a 60m+ wide river cuz morons on both sides decided it was their "option" to almost completely block a protected waterway.