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LittleMe Jewell
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08-29-2008 12:43
Ann - he brought up the F word. _____________________
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Ghosty Kips
Elora's Llama
Join date: 2 May 2008
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08-29-2008 12:50
Ann - he brought up the F word. Shuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun.  _____________________
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Frurry Fluno
Registered User
Join date: 3 May 2006
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08-29-2008 13:20
mute is your friend (and mine)
i often mute people who spam.... ......RUUUUUBBBBBBAAAAAAGGGGGAAAAAAA........ in 15 line chunks  what the heck does that even mean anyway |
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Ghosty Kips
Elora's Llama
Join date: 2 May 2008
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08-29-2008 13:24
what the heck does that even mean anyway  _____________________
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Ralektra Breda
Template Painter
Join date: 7 Apr 2008
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08-29-2008 13:39
aw great that makes me a crusty old spinster too
ah well knew that anyway hehe I hate gesture spam, I don't mind animations at all but ya, I'm one of those lifeless dolls just standing there (or dancing, don't mind dancing) I don't use a series of poses, and when I am enjoying the music and shout "woooooo!" I'm typing it _____________________
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Ralektra Breda
Template Painter
Join date: 7 Apr 2008
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08-29-2008 13:42
and the last thing I do after dressing up for a nite out is say 'bling off' and it's gotten so my partner will remind me. Like, 'did you lock the door?' and 'did you turn off your bling?'
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Somatika Xiao
Cyan Energy Man
Join date: 30 Jun 2006
Posts: 137
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Fight Back!
08-29-2008 19:04
I hate the "Woots" main reason I stay away from clubs.
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Yumi Murakami
DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!
Join date: 27 Sep 2005
Posts: 6,860
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08-29-2008 19:20
It is actually, at heart, a good idea: if you want to mute someone's spam without muting everything they say, guessing that they wouldn't be bothered to type all the spam in by hand is probably a good bet. So if a feature could be used to "mute automatic chat", which would mute gesture chat, and any chat line where copy+paste had been used, but not typed messages, it could work... although bots could fake it.
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Czari Zenovka
I've Had it With "PC"!
Join date: 3 May 2007
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08-30-2008 00:49
Headed straight over to vote!
The number one reason my partner and I rarely go to clubs anymore and when we do it is a VERY select few is the inane gesture spam. And even in those clubs, as soon as the Hooo and Howlzzz starts...we're gone. I think one of the most annoying features in SL are gestures! Normally I leave most dance clubs after a while 'cause of all those "HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" noise and chat spam. So I started a feature request in JIRA to get the ability to disable the use of gestures on my own land and in other places. The first one should be available in land settings, the second one in preferences. I'm aware that gestures may be useful in many cases, e.g. to start scripts. That's why gestures shouldn't be disabled in general. Some kind of "mute spam on chat channel 0 and gesture caused noise" would be sufficient. If you like to support my request vote for it at http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-8800 ! _____________________
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Jade Angkarn
Always a Night Owl
Join date: 6 Oct 2006
Posts: 209
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08-30-2008 01:04
Hmmm... I actually *like* gestures, and a certain amount of gesture spam. And I'm not young in either worlds. It can be overdone, of course. The gesture spam I really dislike is the kind that throws a conversation off the screen. If a real conversation is going, and a huge HELL YEAH throws it completely off the screen - hell yeah, that's annoying.
I guess it has to do with keeping the energy level up in a club. Conversation is best, of course, but there are times when the club staff is a bit tired, or there is a stall in the conversation... or people are new and not sure where to lead the conversation... having some gestures thrown in during that time is preferable to the dead silence which can cause people to TP out ASAP. Also, as someone else mentioned, when a favorite song comes on, it helps inform the DJ that s/he is going in the right direction. *****RRRRRRUUUUUUGGGGGGBAAAAAAA********** My gesture spam for the day  _____________________
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Qie Niangao
Coin-operated
Join date: 24 May 2006
Posts: 7,138
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08-30-2008 02:10
Sorry, but the jira won't work. Even if there were some way to disable client-side gestures from the sim, there'd be no way to disable *sim*-side gesture-imitating *scripts* (at least not without totally b0rking scripts of all kinds). So the end result would be that annoying gesture crap would be replaced by laggy annoying scripted crap.
Besides, without gestures, we'd have to check profile rezdates to know who's a clueless newbie. Oh, one other comment: The person using a gesture containing sound experiences it totally differently from everybody else in the room. Sounds take absurdly long to download, especially in an avatar-crowded area, so on the first play of a sound gesture, what the gesture-user hears as (loosely) synchronized sound typically occurs for all other listeners several *minutes* later. That is to say: if you know what you're doing, don't even bother with gestures that include sounds. |
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Skell Dagger
Smitten
Join date: 26 Jun 2007
Posts: 1,885
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08-30-2008 03:34
I hate the "Woots" main reason I stay away from clubs. Fight Back: http://slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=842303 Shameless plug, I created it to poke at the whole "Wooting" thing. it is free though, so no harm really. I woot for you! WOOOT! Wooo oooo ooo oo T! LoL OoO LoL  (Although to judge from the review you got there, some people just don't understand the principles of delicious irony...)_____________________
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Lance Corrimal
I don't do stupid.
Join date: 9 Jun 2006
Posts: 877
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08-30-2008 03:35
I use gestures all the time... to tie chat commands for boats to function keys.
hitting F7 in a race is just so much faster than typing /1 m +15, then /1 s +15 and then /1 j +15. so, a definite "no" for disabling gestures, unless there's a distinction between gestures that talk to open chat and gestures on hidden channels. OTOH, anybody who floods a club with "WOOOOOT" + sound more than once in a lifetime should be tarred and feathered. |
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Tod69 Talamasca
The Human Tripod ;)
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 4,107
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08-30-2008 05:27
Hmmm... I actually *like* gestures, and a certain amount of gesture spam. And I'm not young in either worlds. It can be overdone, of course. The gesture spam I really dislike is the kind that throws a conversation off the screen. If a real conversation is going, and a huge HELL YEAH throws it completely off the screen - hell yeah, that's annoying. I guess it has to do with keeping the energy level up in a club. Conversation is best, of course, but there are times when the club staff is a bit tired, or there is a stall in the conversation... or people are new and not sure where to lead the conversation... having some gestures thrown in during that time is preferable to the dead silence which can cause people to TP out ASAP. Also, as someone else mentioned, when a favorite song comes on, it helps inform the DJ that s/he is going in the right direction. *****RRRRRRUUUUUUGGGGGGBAAAAAAA********** My gesture spam for the day My thoughts exactly. _____________________
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Raymond Nightfire
Known reverse engineer
Join date: 5 Nov 2007
Posts: 51
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Gestures are like anything else, they must be used properly
08-30-2008 08:27
As long as people don't over do it, I'm fine with firing them off gestures, I even tend to join in with my collection.
 I tend to be in some of the same regions as Immy as well as in the Raglan regions and gestures get fired off like crazy, but not a single one is an irritating one. During tiny events we tend to use the boing and tiny river dance gesture alot, plus what ever else we have in our active sets. I even have gestures that control scripted attacments like my 7Seas fishing rod, and a series of them that are AO controls that I made (some even have confirmation sounds) so I don't have to manualy type the commands. My gesture arsenal my not be as big as other people's but I only fire them off when appropriate, and most are short sounds and/or simple text. My longer ones are fired off once or twice then I'm done and only in places where they don't interfere with the audio in the area. _____________________
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Anya Ristow
Vengeance Studio
Join date: 21 Sep 2006
Posts: 1,243
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08-30-2008 08:57
Sound emitted by gestures can be muted separately at your end Unless things have changed recently, the slider that controls gesture sound volume controls the volume of all object sounds, too. I'd like these to be separately controlled. |
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FD Spark
Prim & Texture Doodler
Join date: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 4,697
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08-30-2008 09:05
I didn't vote for this because it would be irrelevant to me unless I could mute it on my client if I went out.
Out of 5 years my first alt and I have been around I never used gestures more then five times never found them amusing nor have I have been able to get them to work since FD first joined. Some guy thought I was laying about being around that long because I don't know or can't get gestures to work. I find them in annoying in clubs but even if the jira thing passed it would help me to avoid gesture spam if club hadn't disabled it or was fond of it I still subjected to gesture spam where ever it was allowed. _____________________
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Toy LaFollette
I eat paintchips
Join date: 11 Feb 2004
Posts: 2,359
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08-30-2008 09:12
I use gestures a lot and also make them so avoid me like the plague!!! hey Im a kid afterall
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Skell Dagger
Smitten
Join date: 26 Jun 2007
Posts: 1,885
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08-30-2008 09:22
Muting usually works for me. I was in a great club recently, but this bozo had me hitting the mute button after the first couple of minutes:
[2008/07/19 16:27] Muted Jerk: ...Don't Mess with Me... [2008/07/19 16:27] Muted Jerk: ...I got ATTITUDE !!! [2008/07/19 16:27] Muted Jerk: ...Don't Mess with Me... [2008/07/19 16:27] Muted Jerk: ...I got ATTITUDE !!! [2008/07/19 16:27] Muted Jerk: ...Don't Mess with Me... [2008/07/19 16:27] Muted Jerk: ...I got ATTITUDE !!! [2008/07/19 16:27] Muted Jerk: ...Don't Mess with Me... [2008/07/19 16:27] Muted Jerk: ...I got ATTITUDE !!! [2008/07/19 16:27] Muted Jerk: ...Don't Mess with Me... [2008/07/19 16:27] Muted Jerk: ...I got ATTITUDE !!! [2008/07/19 16:27] Muted Jerk: ...You're Silly !!! [2008/07/19 16:30] Muted Jerk: ...I'm cute... [2008/07/19 16:30] Muted Jerk: ...Yes it's true... [2008/07/19 16:30] Muted Jerk: ...I really can't help it, but what can I do ??? [2008/07/19 16:30] Muted Jerk: ...When you're cute...It just shows !!! I enjoyed my night a lot more after that... _____________________
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Skell Dagger
Smitten
Join date: 26 Jun 2007
Posts: 1,885
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08-30-2008 09:25
and the last thing I do after dressing up for a nite out is say 'bling off' and it's gotten so my partner will remind me. Like, 'did you lock the door?' and 'did you turn off your bling?' _____________________
It always ends in chickens...
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Tarina Sewell
Just Browsing Thank you
Join date: 20 Jul 2007
Posts: 2,180
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08-30-2008 13:27
No, I'm not against animations! I'm only talking about sound and chat spam. um, you can turn your "sounds" off...thats what I do but I gotta gree about the chat spam... and usually its the hosts doing it... I do not mind one or two lines... but.... you know with a smaller chat window half of those things just look stupid. |
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Scout Schwager
Registered User
Join date: 20 Apr 2008
Posts: 53
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08-30-2008 13:47
Of course it can start a fight, but its probably more helpful from a social engineering point of view, if you announce in open chat who you are muting.
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Qie Niangao
Coin-operated
Join date: 24 May 2006
Posts: 7,138
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08-30-2008 14:51
you know with a smaller chat window half of those things just look stupid. |
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Joshua Philgarlic
SLinside.com
Join date: 29 Jan 2007
Posts: 143
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08-30-2008 16:13
um, you can turn your "sounds" off... I don't like to turn sounds off just because some guys don't know how to behave. They disturb MY experience and the experience of MOST other people too! |
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Raymond Nightfire
Known reverse engineer
Join date: 5 Nov 2007
Posts: 51
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If you don't like gestures don't go near a large group of tinies
08-31-2008 08:28
If you go to any event in the Raglan regions, be ready to get blasted with gestures from all the tinies who are there.
If several of us have the same ones we wind up setting of a chain reaction with them such as the tiny river dance and boing getstures. And new ones tend to be made on the sopt and passed around.  Most of our getsture arsenals are complete with sounds, chat, animations, and most of them are crazy ones!! No matter what the event happens to be, we tinies aways will go nuts and may rapid fire our gestures!! The reason behind our maddness, ITS FUN!! _____________________
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I don't mean to offend the original builder, I just like to see how things are made and to get ideas for my own builds. |