RE: ageplay / child porn linden blog

Ummm... excuse me, but I'm not seeing how SL is being "destroyed" here. All I'm seeing so far are a lot of forum/blog debates and heated arguments on how to crack down on pedophiles and child porn, the lines between fantasy and reality in SL and how it impacts RL perceptions and opinion, what's legal and what's not, and consenting adults and their privacy rights.

I can't hardly believe the Lindens think their Second World is coming to an end over this mess.

They're just doing what any company does when negative RL press hits -- scramble the PR people, follow up with whomever they need to follow up with for whatever (in this case, attorneys and the German authorities) and make a statement and/or policy of some sort.

Elex all do repect, but why do you keep jumping from one issue to another? You for said Live Help is a issue that should have been removed, and the bring up" non-verified registrations"....... As you call it It's called "ambush journalism." as quoted in the meaning from wikiped..

SOURCE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalism#Ambush_journalism

Blurb below,

"Ambush journalism refers to aggressive tactics practiced by journalists to suddenly confront with questions people who otherwise do not wish to speak to a journalist."
Now Elex I highly doubt that anyone did this as a setup, Its been occuring around Sl for a year atleast.

see thats the bit i dont get .. for months there have been a few ( couple of thousand or so ) residents and their alts crying out to linden labs to do something about ageplay . see now personally i feel sad for those people who cant differentiate between roleplay and real life . im sure once they are done with their hostile attack on ageplayers all over the sims their next target will be hmmm i dunno trekkies ? maybe goreans ? or hows about those of us it the forced fantasy realm of things . linden labs it seems was so quick to come out and say " we are totally against pedophilia " the never bother to

A consider if what was reported actually was pedophilia

and

B consider what ramifications this will have .

unfortunitly for our dear lindens this action has opened the door for people to shut down every major form or role play in second life . heck if i dont like a neko sex sim all i have to do is call my local paper get them to write a store and linden labs will come ban all the users of that sim regardless of their status as verified unverified premium or basic account users .

doesn't that scare the hell out of anyone else ?

on ageplay my opinions are simple . i don't do it but i dont think anyone has the right to stop others from participating . if the two people involved are over the age of consent ( majority of countries its 18+ which is what LL demands to be in mature areas anyway ) then it isnt pedophilia its roleplay . and roleplay is an act of the mind of the imagination . surely LL is not supporting a theme where we regulate what people think ( anyone seen equilibrium )

I work within a small part of the SL fetish comunity which among other things roleplays ( and i say this loudly they PRETEND ) forced sex fantasys , dolcett fantasys and snuff fantasys ) there are a couple of thousand people interested in this sort of play and not one myself included have ever contemplated killing cooking or eating another human being . lets face it the people who actually does those things are going to look for something a little more realistic than pixels and prims

My imediate concern is that LL has painted themselves into a corner created by the ... shall we see supermoral residents of SL . and in doing so have opened the door for a hostile take-over of their entire operation . from this one act they have sent the message loud and clear ...

" dont worry we will never defend what our customers do . threaton us with bad publicity or litigation and we will fold . bring all your issues to us and we will do what you want . aslong as your not one of the sick twisted people "

way to show loyalty LL .. even the white house has the cojounes to step up and defend its people if they are in trouble

Suki * sick twisted anti religion freak just cause i like bondage * usitnov

Id say you should be worried about this stuff -

Virtual Rape / Snuff / Cannibalism - would definitely be sensational enough to get a news story similair to the one on Ageplay.

fortunitly two things are likely to happen

A LL decide that snuff canibalism rape etc are something they wish to ban and they change their ROS accordingly ... to my current knowledge there are no laws against the acting out or roleplaying of these themes in ireland so the chances of me going to jail are minimal and if i do ill be in good company . but what will definitly happen iis LL will lose a couple of thousand residents most who are verified and premium members many who build etc. gee good job on the whole self preservation thing there LL

B LL will pull up their socks decide after the ageplay debalical that they cant regulate peoples thoughts etc and tell the next bunch of crucifix hugging anti - everythings that they can go take a running jump . they lose 2 thousand haters who are more often than not on free accounts and its the end of the story

whats the chances of the second one happening ? given LL`s past history on simular good business choices ... id say slim and none and slim just left on the last shuttle out of dodge

Suki

doubt it - they can keep banning fringe stuff for years and still not lose the playing house crowd.


As for fetishes -
Banning gors would hurt
Banning BDSM would hurt more
Banning furries would hurt a lot

None of the rest would really "kill" LL

The people they will likely lose is the advocates for freedom of expression - However in todays society those are a tiny minority.

I find those who do rape play and Gorean style stuff much more "worrying." Most of us kids are the first to be disturbed with the icky sex stuff.

Mari

seeing as the main grid is for use by adult human beings only, do you think furries should be banned too?

Oooh I guess I've got to throw out my beetle bug avatar and my Aliens avatar. Bummer. It's so sad to see censorship raise its ugly head. The coolest thing, to my mind, about SL is that you can be anyone/anything you want!

I have no problem with ageplay, I have no problem with sexual ageplay either. What I do have a problem with is people using child avatars for such purposes as sexual ageplay.

Everythng I've read about sexual ageplay is that it's anti paedophillia. From what I've read, real sexual ageplayers don't want their partners to look like children, using a child avatar is not sexual ageplay, there's no playing when the avatar is of a child. Using a child avatar is playing out a paedophile fantasy and has no place here. Let's not confuse paedophile fantasy with sexual ageplay.

So long as we also don't confuse:

1--Non sexual child-avatars as being part of the problem (they just wanna be kids, big deal).

2--Pedophilia as anything involving a human being over the age of 12-13. Pedophilia is the love of PRE-pubescent persons.

3--7 foot tall avatars as 'normal'. They're not. They're gigantic monstrosities. Ban height play! Ban height play!