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John Horner

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Join date: 27 Jun 2006

Posts: 626

11-12-2006 09:47

I know it is easy on a BB to make flip judgements but I did attend your teachers meet when this was put forward by Jessie Linden, and I do appeciate the act of both teaching and being taught fills a purpose in Second Life. Maybe if the pop stats continue to grow it is one to come back too, but for now it seems to me LL have a drive to become commercially viable

Cannae Brentano

NeoTermite

Join date: 21 Apr 2006

Posts: 368

11-12-2006 11:00

From: Jesse Malthus

They're balancing sources and sinks. Paying instructors is a source. Also, I've *NEVER* seen, been to, or heard of an actual class event going on,so LL may feel like it's not reaching a wide enough audience to continue to justify it.

Unfortunatly, that is not the case. Last month LL introduced nearly $L50,000,000 new currency by direct sales, which raised approximatly $180,000 in USD.

Its probably more about getting residents to be self sufficent and less about balancing the sources and sinks.

cinda Hoodoo

my 2cents worth

Join date: 30 Dec 2004

Posts: 951

wellllll

11-12-2006 14:59

There is not a lot i can do to change the things at LL, i think once they sold out, the handwriting was on the wall, but what i can do is this:

Be kind and mannered to those i meet in SL, have great conversations, teach newbs a few things, work on my place to make it attractive and entertaining.

If all take this to heart, and try to make it a world worth playing in, Second Life as we know and love will continue, its really all up to us. Yes the griefers are a pain in the ass, and theres days i want an aspirin and lay down, but for the most part, i meet terrific ppl and enjoy their company immensely.

So that being said, im signing into SL to see what the afternoon will bring..there is always hope if good players exist and im telling you that they do.

Usagi Musashi

UM ™®

Join date: 24 Oct 2004

Posts: 6,083

11-12-2006 15:35

Nobody is flipping judgments. Like anything else in life. If your around the problem you can see whats going on.

Shep Korvin

The Lucky Chair Guy

Join date: 30 Jun 2005

Posts: 305

11-13-2006 06:40

From: Jonas Pierterson

What about broke newbies?

Sell their eyeballs to sponsors.

Sensual Casanova

Spoiled Brat

Join date: 28 Feb 2004

Posts: 4,807

11-13-2006 08:38

I was wondering when this would happen... Classes are a GOOD thing in SL but I have also noticed alot of instructors abusing the system and only using it to find any loop hole to get PAID fast...
LL however could have changed the criteria and made it harder for this to abused instead of taking it away completely...
But then it comes to mind, how many greeters and Live Help volunteers give help for free, not the same as a "class" but more one on one attention to new users...
There are places like the Ivory tower that new players can go to and learn at thier own pace and never need to go to a class... maybe we need to find a way to get more places like that in SL, preferablly LL sponsored instead of relying on residents.

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Tre Giles

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Join date: 16 Dec 2005

Posts: 294

11-13-2006 08:58

From: paulie Femto

I'm posting this in the form of a question to other residents, so I'm not accused of "ranting" and "posting off topic." I'm just back from a three-day ban for suggesting in this forum that Linden Lab has been lying to landowners:

/327/62/147206/1.html

So, I'll ask this one as a question to other residents. What can I do, as a teacher, now that Linden Lab has decided that supporting teachers is "unhealthy"? What will newbs do, when they can't find any help? Can some smart resident chime in and give me the answer?

/208/1c/148150/1.html

Yep, they’re stickin it to teachers, now. And lying about the reasons. That's low. Go ahead and ban me again for asking questions, Linden Lab. Go ahead and show your true colors. Let everyone see how you really are.

I wish I could be more like you, cursing at LL without actually cursing at them. Bravo.

If only I had that kind of anger control

This has been on my mind for about a year now, finally this stuff is hitting the fan!

From: someone

Also, I've *NEVER* seen, been to, or heard of an actual class event going on,so LL may feel like it's not reaching a wide enough audience to continue to justify it.

Come out of your one apartment sim and smell the flowers man!

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Angelique LaFollette

Registered User

Join date: 17 Jun 2004

Posts: 1,595

11-16-2006 19:34

You Could try Teaching for FREE. I do it all the time, and i find it quite enjoyable. If you were only doing it for the Money, Well, Maybe you just aren't suited to be a Teacher.

It seems like there is no altruism left in the world, Like the Only driving force and source of satisfaction people seem to have these days is Money. What a truely sad and shallow existance that is.

Angel.

Nepenthes Ixchel

Broadly Offended.

Join date: 6 Dec 2005

Posts: 696

11-17-2006 03:25

From: paulie Femto

What will newbs do, when they can't find any help?

They'll download CopyBot and copy whatever they need. Then they'll quit because no-one is left but griefers and thieves.

Linden Lab no longer supports teachers
John Horner Registered User Join date: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 626	11-12-2006 09:47 I know it is easy on a BB to make flip judgements but I did attend your teachers meet when this was put forward by Jessie Linden, and I do appeciate the act of both teaching and being taught fills a purpose in Second Life. Maybe if the pop stats continue to grow it is one to come back too, but for now it seems to me LL have a drive to become commercially viable
Cannae Brentano NeoTermite Join date: 21 Apr 2006 Posts: 368	11-12-2006 11:00 From: Jesse Malthus They're balancing sources and sinks. Paying instructors is a source. Also, I've NEVER seen, been to, or heard of an actual class event going on,so LL may feel like it's not reaching a wide enough audience to continue to justify it. Unfortunatly, that is not the case. Last month LL introduced nearly $L50,000,000 new currency by direct sales, which raised approximatly $180,000 in USD. Its probably more about getting residents to be self sufficent and less about balancing the sources and sinks.
cinda Hoodoo my 2cents worth Join date: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 951	wellllll 11-12-2006 14:59 There is not a lot i can do to change the things at LL, i think once they sold out, the handwriting was on the wall, but what i can do is this: Be kind and mannered to those i meet in SL, have great conversations, teach newbs a few things, work on my place to make it attractive and entertaining. If all take this to heart, and try to make it a world worth playing in, Second Life as we know and love will continue, its really all up to us. Yes the griefers are a pain in the ass, and theres days i want an aspirin and lay down, but for the most part, i meet terrific ppl and enjoy their company immensely. So that being said, im signing into SL to see what the afternoon will bring..there is always hope if good players exist and im telling you that they do.
Usagi Musashi UM ™® Join date: 24 Oct 2004 Posts: 6,083	11-12-2006 15:35 Nobody is flipping judgments. Like anything else in life. If your around the problem you can see whats going on.
Shep Korvin The Lucky Chair Guy Join date: 30 Jun 2005 Posts: 305	11-13-2006 06:40 From: Jonas Pierterson What about broke newbies? Sell their eyeballs to sponsors.
Sensual Casanova Spoiled Brat Join date: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 4,807	11-13-2006 08:38 I was wondering when this would happen... Classes are a GOOD thing in SL but I have also noticed alot of instructors abusing the system and only using it to find any loop hole to get PAID fast... LL however could have changed the criteria and made it harder for this to abused instead of taking it away completely... But then it comes to mind, how many greeters and Live Help volunteers give help for free, not the same as a "class" but more one on one attention to new users... There are places like the Ivory tower that new players can go to and learn at thier own pace and never need to go to a class... maybe we need to find a way to get more places like that in SL, preferablly LL sponsored instead of relying on residents. _____________________ Sensual Designs & Animations Sensual Productions Teleport to Sensual Designs & Animations
Tre Giles Registered User Join date: 16 Dec 2005 Posts: 294	11-13-2006 08:58 From: paulie Femto I'm posting this in the form of a question to other residents, so I'm not accused of "ranting" and "posting off topic." I'm just back from a three-day ban for suggesting in this forum that Linden Lab has been lying to landowners: /327/62/147206/1.html So, I'll ask this one as a question to other residents. What can I do, as a teacher, now that Linden Lab has decided that supporting teachers is "unhealthy"? What will newbs do, when they can't find any help? Can some smart resident chime in and give me the answer? /208/1c/148150/1.html Yep, they’re stickin it to teachers, now. And lying about the reasons. That's low. Go ahead and ban me again for asking questions, Linden Lab. Go ahead and show your true colors. Let everyone see how you really are. I wish I could be more like you, cursing at LL without actually cursing at them. Bravo. If only I had that kind of anger control This has been on my mind for about a year now, finally this stuff is hitting the fan! From: someone Also, I've NEVER seen, been to, or heard of an actual class event going on,so LL may feel like it's not reaching a wide enough audience to continue to justify it. Come out of your one apartment sim and smell the flowers man! _____________________ "The Dirt Gods Are Pleased" OMFG I FOUND HACKS TO SECONDLIFE ON GOOGLE??? Hacks!!!? Found on google lmao!
Angelique LaFollette Registered User Join date: 17 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,595	11-16-2006 19:34 You Could try Teaching for FREE. I do it all the time, and i find it quite enjoyable. If you were only doing it for the Money, Well, Maybe you just aren't suited to be a Teacher. It seems like there is no altruism left in the world, Like the Only driving force and source of satisfaction people seem to have these days is Money. What a truely sad and shallow existance that is. Angel.
Nepenthes Ixchel Broadly Offended. Join date: 6 Dec 2005 Posts: 696	11-17-2006 03:25 From: paulie Femto What will newbs do, when they can't find any help? They'll download CopyBot and copy whatever they need. Then they'll quit because no-one is left but griefers and thieves.

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