Linden Lab no longer supports teachers

I'm posting this in the form of a question to other residents, so I'm not accused of "ranting" and "posting off topic." I'm just back from a three-day ban for suggesting in this forum that Linden Lab has been lying to landowners:

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So, I'll ask this one as a question to other residents. What can I do, as a teacher, now that Linden Lab has decided that supporting teachers is "unhealthy"? What will newbs do, when they can't find any help? Can some smart resident chime in and give me the answer?

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Yep, they’re stickin it to teachers, now. And lying about the reasons. That's low. Go ahead and ban me again for asking questions, Linden Lab. Go ahead and show your true colors. Let everyone see how you really are.

They're balancing sources and sinks. Paying instructors is a source. Also, I've *NEVER* seen, been to, or heard of an actual class event going on,so LL may feel like it's not reaching a wide enough audience to continue to justify it.

my guess is this:

Back when SL was being built, and it had things like guns, grenades, and cool little artificial life creatures, Phillip thought it would be a fun game that people would play.

However, the cost of hardware (on server per sim) and bandwidth has made SL impractical as a game. Instead, the only way SL will survive as a commercial product is if Linden Lab finds a way to make more money. This is best done via renting space to commercial ventures. In effect, Linden Lab wants to make SL the "web 3D".

The instructors, dwell, and other incentives no longer serve a purpose, since SL is no longer an entertainment platform, but a business platform.

Just my 2 cents.

LL has no intention to balance sources and sinks. If you have noticed, Supply Linden, as the biggest source besides stipend (rapidly approaching that amount), continues to increase sales. This is lowering the value of the linden, blocking residents transactions, and taking money that should go to residents. Last month it was close to $180,000 US dollars that Supply Linden collected and expect October to be more. They also said cutting stipends on new accounts was to balance the economy. For every cut they make, Supply Linden fills in the gap plus more so the economy will never be balanced. LL has found their personal cash cow in the LindeX with Supply Linden and will never give that up. Each month what they take out in $US has doubled.

They should get rid of Supply Linden and bring back all the other sources and stipends they have taken out. The economy was in closer balance than.

I hope you aren't banned. I think that would suck.

Here's what teachers are supposed to do: Go to work for the man. Jesse said so.

For example, you could put together a business designed to bring events to corporate land: "Paulie's Virtual Events Packages." For a buncha real life dollars, you, your partners, and the people you hire would put on so many events, so many times a week.

One of those events would be classes: "Build your own Nissan!" and so forth.

A good package would include events every night of the week (and during the day, too): "Nissan goes to the races! L$5k awarded to the fastest driver, every Friday night!"

"Like word games? Come play Nissan's Virtual Scrabble, every Tueday night! L$5k, L$1k and L$500 awarded to the top three winners!"

etc. and so forth.

Bring eyeballs to their commercial lands every day of the week.

Why the Rivers Run Red, Electric Sheep, and Millions of Us didn't include this entertainment package in their all-inclusive $100 thousand U.S. dollars services, instead of a measly opening party or something, I don't know. Maybe they wanted to do the job, get paid, and be done with it.

But the opportunity is there to go to work for Nissan and others.

Just don't package it as classes only. And just make sure you get paid like RRR, ESC, and MOU do. Don't be a sap and work for peanuts, like the rest of us.

If RRR, ESC, and MOU start including this in their services, then go to work for them, because they're the man, too. Just make sure, guys, that your teaching skills aren't devalued in comparison to what the individuals in those companies are making. Don't be a sap and work for peanuts for them, either.

coco

Actually - and I do wish someone would find this quote for me - Philip said fairly recently something along the lines of, "We had to make it fun at first to get enough people in," but that now they had enough people. He was referring to the various incentives for this and that.

So - I don't think he much cared about fun even back then. He wanted to get people in, to build the world. Now that we have, fun is expendable. (And so are we.)

coco

Yet again, another example of LL's 'bait-and-switch' tactics.

Oh the res mods are going to love seeing this cross posted along the forum

This was no surprize, we all knew this day was coming but it was a day when LLabs would shut it down.

I say GOOD! Its about time, because those that make a living off this are not longer going to hold classes like "How to host a event" "How to be mannered" " How to partner" etc etc etc etc etc etc. Bad because the good ones really did help newbies learn

Just like dance events supports of years ago. Its became abused with non sence instructioned classes as I posted above etc. Instructures then put their own alts in classes to show there was some sort of newbies taking part in their classes and still getting paid. I hate to see the good teachers go, but this is a good thing. Its weeds out all the bad abusing the system people from the ones that really want t help. As LLAbs has been warning us we are headed to a REAL LIFE Educators system.

non-shameless promotion: There will be a HUUUGE Instructor Appreciation Event & Party on December 10th.... look for details to come soon.

Classes . . . might interfere with the sales of the new book.

http://www.amazon.com/Second-Life-Official-Michael-Rymaszewski/dp/047009608X/sr=8-1/qid=1163292365/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-6621903-3799057?ie=UTF8&s=books

coco

i hope it's a pop-up book.


Or at least written in the style of Dr Seuss.


"you will not rez that on a prim ... you will not rez that on a sim
... You will not rez that next to a furrie fnurgle gnurble named Tim Pasternim"

Look at one of the writers .......A Linden

Well that book looks like a load of worthless crap that isn't worth wasting money on.

Nice little money earner for a few familiar names.

Isn't it funny that a company, working with 'cutting edge technology' and 'the metaverse, the future of the internet' chooses to put out a PAPER BOOK as a guide on how to use their product.

The book/end of classes payment isn't too conspiratorial to be honest. Caught out again Linden Lab?

Lewis

Second Life is that book. .. except SL is free, has live avatar people willing to help and instruct, and hands on demonstrations.....


It's almost as dumb as putting a webpage on a prim inside of secondlife...


...oh wait.... ....


... did i just convince myself to buy that book?

im very confused

Lewis you expect anything less from them

This is not the same sl say it was 1 year ago,or even 9 month ago.
Look around everyone is screaming at each other, insulting etc..........People just don`t know who to trust anymore.
So instead of writting and bitch just let it be. Nothing will change.....All we can do is hold on tight and see see which way we are going to land.

This support of teachers are just another way of saying. You played for years and you done your share. But we are now turning to th next generation of people to come in do their thing. As I said before, we all knew that the support of teachers was going to end as we were warned that event support for dance events was going to be phased out.

Many of us that have been around for a long time are the ones that understand what sl have gone through in the past.

Only resently i have realized that what applied with the past rules are nolonger be inforced. But what we looked as in the past was wrong is now right. Since I am not a western person I don`t understand the concept western world. Business I do understand business, with the current conditions we sure don`t know where we land up. If we land "sunsideup as a egg" as we are tossed around in a hot pan well be lucky.

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As a side note paul. I too have been banned "Twice" inthe past 3 weeks. 3 days and 7 days. As I said int my remark above.."But what we looked as in the past was wrong is now right." Is a perfect touch for this time inthe history if SL. We all want to have second life to be around for a long time. thats why some of use speak out. But some people don`t look at it that way. rant, troll.......going off topic? well as a non native english speaker i don`t understand the process what is and what not. All i care about is the condition of the game as it is now.

It is not a game it is a platform Usaqi.

Having said that I do have some sympathy with the position regarding instructors and fair compensation for services rendered but I have to say I have reservations too

In short if I put my first life hat on I would want to be able to define in hard financial terms what added value is provided to grow the platform, and compare that with costs necessary to maintain an efficient service.

If I were Linden Labs CFO I might even be prepared to do that at cash breakeven or perhaps slightly less if the population continues to increase.

But from a sales and marketing viewpoint I would not wish to throw money away where I cannot shake a stick at potential benefits. If that calculation has been done and it is not favourable en mass to do then it is sad but inevitable such a service will end.

Perhaps the Teachers in Second Life need to think outside the box.....for example I had to search for a whole week to find a " scripted device" I wanted in sl, and would had paid up front for a teaching service that told me what to do and where to get it.


So.....try charging for your services in Lindens would be my view. Avatars who have an interest would pay

grant you, but the Game is the NOUN not a verb......

The relative values of the Linden, and the current stability of its value would suggest otherwise.

Its a game to me. You won't be changing my mind anytime soon about it either - but you're also free to make of SL what you make of it.

game 1 (ghttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/amacr.gifm)
n. 1. An activity providing entertainment or amusement; a pastime: party games; word games.

Breaking even. well LLabs have been it there views have been working at a loss for a long time (who knows)

Sales and Marketing has not been a strong part for LLabs. I mean they try but......As you said they have more then enough not gone withthe major of what the users wanted.

As LLabs has said.......and a few lindens when they came in to the game they had nobody to help them and they were ok. well thats BS as you might agree.But again as you said well landup paying for such service at the end.

What about broke newbies?

Free classes are very useful to them as it lets them experience buildingand scripting for free - and many of them put actual money into the game because ofthat experience, whether they upgrade to premium or just buy lindens. It also forms a base on whether they stay or get bored.

Here is a remark that is worring many. He has a point out learning.......all but putting money in the game that is he point is correct.Very few put money in the game. They only take it out. Upgrade to Premium accounts unlikey.....

Free education still helps create new content creators though. Even Starax needed a start.

Ok my reply did not comeout the way i wanted. I think free education is important.

Either you're referring to "real life education", or you've never used the search menu for educational events...
If you're referring to "real life education", visit Harvard's sim (Berkman), or Campus: Second Life. I've been attending office hours weekly with a Harvard professor on empathic argument, classes have been offered on investing, PHP coding, and more.
SL's education events (learning to build, script, create clothes) are happening all the time, literally. There are at least 4 universities that offer classes daily.

As for the economy. Education is supported in real life by one of 2 ways: state/federal funding OR tuition. Since LL just eliminated their funding to instructors, we're left with tuition.

Have fun...glad I'm not premium.
-Ipenda Keynes ^.^

p.s. as long as I continue to have a location to teach on, I'll offer my free help to newbies...just cause I love teaching.