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Mickey James
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07-22-2007 19:06
A lot of people will not use voice because they can't. They're not alone in the room when they're in SL and can't talk without both annoying their families and having to be careful about what they say. Others won't use it because they spend their whole work day talking and don't want to chatter all night. And still others like to have a TV on or music while they're in-world.

And others won't because their real voice would not go with whatever SL persona they want to be (and that's not just a factor in gender-bending.)

Then there are settings where voice won't be good. Want to go to a discussion group where 20 or 30 people typically talk at once and you can sort it all out by keeping up with the chat history? Try doing that with a jumble of voices where there's no way to know who said what or to read back to make sure you caught what they said right.

All in all, I wonder how many people will really use voice on a regular basis. I am not expecting to be many ... maybe 25 percent of the user base at best, and possibly a good bit less. I think voice is mostly for corporate users who want to teleconference in-world, or for teachers who want to lecture classes, or similar settings, and in those cases I think it'll be a great tool. But otherwise? Not so much.
Mickey James
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07-22-2007 19:08
From: Archer Braun
I'm curious to see how widespread the vox feature will be...and what that'll mean for me wandering around a landscape of text-silent zombies, gesturing away. Perhaps, then...I'll have an *inkling* of what it may mean to be deaf in RL. *smile*
I'm also curious about how people will react to the "texties" among them...if they'll be annoyed by the text pop-up on the screen, when one of us neaderthals decides to post something....kinda like the irritation I feel when my group IM's just won't shut the hell up, regardless of how often I "leave" a session.
I share the reservations of those a bit suspicious about vox...but, I can see the inevitable, glacial approach of the juggernaut anyway. Soon enough it'll be ubiquitous...and we'll either adapt...or fade away to living lives of mute desperation, lurking in the shadows, watching...waiting...ostracized by this once-egalitarian virtual society. Scrabbling to survive, we'll form into gangs of wild, squatting avi's, lean and hungry-eyed, living in the sewers, sleeping on the heating grates, and reduced to mere digital shadows of our former selves.
But...one day...using a clever network of group-IM's through a twisted network of alt accounts and with the aid of a few, sympathetic "talkies"...we will rise up. An army of silent, angry zombies that will begin a reign of subtle, mute terror the likes of which the metaverse has never witnessed.

Or not.



Can we create a "Best Post of the Week" award? Because this deserves one.
Brenda Connolly
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07-22-2007 19:15
From: Mickey James
Can we create a "Best Post of the Week" award? Because this deserves one.

Gets my vote. And Object, is there ever an inappropriate Beatles Tune? :cool:

I'm really uncomfortable with the term Anti Voice. While some are dead set against it's implementation, I think most non voicers don't want to see it, not happen. We are just not interested in using it, for a variety of reasons.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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07-22-2007 21:39
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never! you sound lovely. i wouldn't say i was 'anti-voice'. i just have reservations about it. whatever my views, you're entitled to yours, and if I ever made you feel bad for expressing it...well...i'd feel pretty crappy about myself.

and Brenda - what a very appropriate Beatles track! ;)


no hon you have not made me feel bad...
and for a moment there I was thinking you heard me then realized the "sound lovely" meant .. textually.. hehe

(and I was gonna say... I sound... silly on voice, for lack of a better way to put it, my voice sounds goofy)
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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07-22-2007 21:46
it is strange, how some embrace it and others are more distant to it

I can not express how much I do enjoy voice chat, it brings a new level to SL for me

and if any of you want to try voice but do not want to go to a public area, or want to test and adjust and need an ear, give me a shout (no pun intended)

I am willing to help, have a voice activated private sim we can use as well.

I will NOT shove voice at anyone, nor will I shun someone because they choose to not use it, however I will be there for anyone who wants to try it, be it someone who was not so sure or someone who is dying to try hehe

blah I am rambling again!
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John Horner
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07-23-2007 03:21
Making a cautious assumption here but by and large the language of choice of the internet and grid is English and perhaps Chinese......

Which reminds me of a rl meeting I attended a few years ago when outsourcing to India was becoming common, the technology help line manager was telling us the story of the person from Scotland talking with a broad Glaswegian accent trying to communicate with the help desk in India staffed with Indian English speakers…

That simple fact that neither understood what the other was talking about (accent) was of course magnified by the Glasgow guy’s computer illiteracy…..

Here is another example I Googled

“Oh its affay fine and bonny. Its just grand. Bit its nay. Can somebody tell me fit wye they wid hay a hale wikipedia site on Scots an in Scots weeoot ony mention o Doric?? There's even a post on Aiberdeen weeoot onythin on Doric. Bit they gang an and an aboot Scots Lied and Lawlands Scots. I'm likely aboot tay offend some peer crater but ... fa spicks Lawlands ony mair? It smacks o central beltism - they dinna realise foo mony folk there are that dinna live atween Edinburgh and Glasgow!!2

Doric by the way is not some guy (or avatar) living in Aberdeen…..Imagine that in SL speech
Seph Swain
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07-23-2007 04:24
Hi, my name is Seph and I use voice.

I'm into car racing and configured the Push-To-Talk Button onto my Joystick.
Now I can talk to other drivers on the race track without need to stop.
Great thing. Better than honking.

Voice will be more usefull when it's in the standard client, currently only about 15% come with FIRSTLOOK.

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07-23-2007 04:27
If you hear your own voice in your heaphones, try deslecting the 'stereo mix' function, in the sound device control software. Also you might try turning off Mic Boost.
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Cherry Czervik
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07-23-2007 06:06
I use voice with my partner which mainly means less lag (when it works anyway) than using Skype with him.

He wanders around talking to people in general on it, but I find myself less keen to do that. I get too much attention if I talk. I'm English and one of the things I do for work RL involves voiceover work of a limited nature so not only am I obviously really a girl ... I get all the comments about English accents etc and really I don't want that sort of attention.

I do find it amusing when someone looks a million dollars and then when they speak she has a deep male voice and a strong Mancunian accent ... or better yet for those in the UK ... a strong Black Country accent.

"Orright ... 'ow am ya? BOSTIN!"

Oh yeah ... basically so much of SL is voice now (WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO DO ODESSA GRACEFUL PLEASE?!!!!!!) but hardly ever see anyone with the ball over their head. That's also because maybe so many who DO have voice are in IM.

It's quite scary if you forget you're in public if you are used to IM and you're quite as blunt and twisted-humoured as I am ... ooops ...
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Tod69 Talamasca
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07-23-2007 07:20
Mmmmmm.... thats one thing I find SO cute and sexy.... a female with a british/scottish/irish or other accent. They sound SO cute!!! Doesnt matter if they're 20 or 60. LOVE that accent!! ;)
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07-23-2007 07:42
From: Tod69 Talamasca
Mmmmmm.... thats one thing I find SO cute and sexy.... a female with a british/scottish/irish or other accent. They sound SO cute!!! Doesnt matter if they're 20 or 60. LOVE that accent!! ;)

me too! :)
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07-23-2007 08:24
I must admit to finding the sound of a SeanConnery, Pierce Brosnan, or Richard Burton appealing.
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Mandy Carbenell
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07-23-2007 08:31
From: Tod69 Talamasca
Mmmmmm.... thats one thing I find SO cute and sexy.... a female with a british/scottish/irish or other accent. They sound SO cute!!! Doesnt matter if they're 20 or 60. LOVE that accent!! ;)


Does Dutch/US/Brooklyn count as well?

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07-23-2007 08:44
From: Brenda Connolly
I must admit to finding the sound of a SeanConnery, Pierce Brosnan, or Richard Burton appealing.


*makes a note to download a voice changer*
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07-23-2007 08:45
From: Mandy Carbenell
Does Dutch/US/Brooklyn count as well?

Mandy C


/me thinks Mandy would probably sound cute no matter what. *Waves*
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Charizma Miles
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07-23-2007 16:16
I thinks its about time that voice was introduce into sl, as its easier i feel to communicate with folks and least ya can hear what the other person sounds like also enabling voice i feel u can interact more and sometimes (on a good day) get answers quickly to any question u may have. I feel to give it a chance and see how it goes, i feel that voice is ok as i can do other stuff with my avatar whilst talkin on on my mic, which is a good thing (as i am not a fast typer lol) bout two words per min lol

seriously i think its a good thing to have and once its been around alot i think more people will use it , and like one post said not all people know about it yet as the only way i knew was my friend had mentioned it after lol i said to her that there should be voice on this thing.
Ciaran Laval
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07-23-2007 16:43
I think voice has a place but as of yet I haven't found a compelling reason to use it. I get enough IM's and I'd never keep up with those if I was trying to do voice at the same time.
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07-23-2007 16:58
From: Brenda Connolly
I must admit to finding the sound of a SeanConnery, Pierce Brosnan, or Richard Burton appealing.



/me does impressions and foreign accents for a living...as a data entry guy!
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07-23-2007 17:17
/me finds this thread kind of ironic ^^
Rhaorth Antonelli
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07-23-2007 17:58
I must say I got to use voice with my SL boss today for the first time, and it was so much easier to try to explain things!

I can see where voice will come in handy when helping ppl, sure saves typing time. even though I do typo on voice (figure that one out hehe)

as for an accent, I do not have one, so I do not get the ooooohs, and ahhhhhs, when ppl hear my voice, just another voice in the crowd.

(me, I do not mind the attention LOL, I rather like it)
yep a 13 yr old about 10 years ago (OMG she is 23 now WOW) taught me that it is ok to say, I like attention, I like ppl noticing me, etc

I used to be so shy about that, not now though!
(Positive attention, not negative stuff)

ya know the kind that gets you a pat on the back for a job well done, or the kind that you just know you made someone smile with, and ohhh to HEAR laughter, so much nicer than the LOL...
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07-23-2007 20:19
From: Mandy Carbenell
Does Dutch/US/Brooklyn count as well?

Mandy C


YES! ;)
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07-23-2007 20:22
From: Rhaorth Antonelli
and ohhh to HEAR laughter, so much nicer than the LOL...


Yep! Its nice to hear the laughs when you tell a joke. I could say LOL ROFLMAO, etc, and just be humoring someone.

Conversely, in RL, how strange would a comedy club be if the audience just held up signs saying "LOL"?
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07-23-2007 20:51
Voice has definitely brought me and my GF a bit closer...I like her voice.

One thing I don't like is the immature voice annoyers...you know, the ones that take abuse to all new level :/ oh well.
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07-24-2007 04:04
From: Tod69 Talamasca
Yep! Its nice to hear the laughs when you tell a joke. I could say LOL ROFLMAO, etc, and just be humoring someone.

Conversely, in RL, how strange would a comedy club be if the audience just held up signs saying "LOL"?

Oh what a great MAD TV bit that would make.
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07-24-2007 08:45
From: Tod69 Talamasca
Yep! Its nice to hear the laughs when you tell a joke. I could say LOL ROFLMAO, etc, and just be humoring someone.

Conversely, in RL, how strange would a comedy club be if the audience just held up signs saying "LOL"?


Will be a lot less "laughs" for most people though I think - since less people will be funny with voice as the medium. Some individuals will be a lot funnier. Others less funny.

There will possibly be less "Telling people what they want to hear" since its harder to fake a sincere tone which is often done. Course that might lead to more laughing. "Yes you really look Hawt" (followed by lots of RL laughing).

When people are down - Which is a lot more people than some may realize who use SL as their primary social outlet - It will be a lot harder for them to fake a happy face, as well.
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