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White Hyacinth
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01-30-2010 10:11
From: Argent Stonecutter

Good idea. You've got my vote on that!
Ceka Cianci
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01-30-2010 10:13
From: Dogmi Lord
ok i been trying to find out way is it that a Adult rated sim can have nonadult rated clubs on it and the club not get in trouble. But lord forbid an Adult rated club go anywhere but adult sim we get in trouble. Why do we have to follow the guildline if they dont. Unfair to ppl following the TSO.

pg and mature are the only ones with restrictions..not sure how it is unfair to adult sims since they can have everything or anything on them within the TOS and the other two cannot.. ;)
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01-30-2010 10:51
From: Qie Niangao
Secondly, does an Adult landowner have a right to control conduct on his Adult land? Because it has an Adult rating, is my store required to permit those "guys with erect prim parts on display?"


Any land owner can restrict access to their plot.

The differen with adult is you should realize and expect 'those prim penis guys' to show up in the buff and equipped. You can tell em to get lost, but you can't AR them for it. And they're not being rude by showing up that way there.
- And you might be rude if you don't make it easy enough for them to find out and get out or change on their own. Within your rights sure, but outside of good etiquette nonetheless.

On Adult land, you should expect people will show up with 'certain things' and 'certain alt-cults' on display.

From: Argent Stonecutter
Linden Lab has already established the precedent that this is not, in fact, the case. What the landowner says goes.


What a land owner has a right to do is not the same as what is good etiquette to do.

On adult land, if you start restricting out adult conduct, that's your right, but you're still rude for doing it.
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Pussycat Catnap
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01-30-2010 10:53
From: Argent Stonecutter
Linden Lab has already established the precedent that this is not, in fact, the case. What the landowner says goes.


What a land owner has a right to do is not the same as what is good etiquette to do.

On adult land, if you start restricting out adult conduct, that's your right, but you're still rude for doing it.
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Argent Stonecutter
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01-30-2010 11:26
From: Pussycat Catnap
The differen with adult is you should realize and expect 'those prim penis guys' to show up in the buff and equipped. You can tell em to get lost, but you can't AR them for it. And they're not being rude by showing up that way there.
Sure they are. Deliberately showing up with your word processor hanging out if you haven't verified the landowner is OK with that is rude.

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On adult land, if you start restricting out adult conduct, that's your right, but you're still rude for doing it.
Nonsense. Adult doesn't mean "all the sexies all the time", it means "if the landowner is OK with it, you can have the sexies".
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Pussycat Catnap
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01-30-2010 11:42
From: Argent Stonecutter
Sure they are. Deliberately showing up with your word processor hanging out if you haven't verified the landowner is OK with that is rude.


If its adult land, it comes with the expectation that doing that is the norm. Rude is not telling them it is not on a given plot.

On Zindra, and other adult land - unless specifically told otherwise for a specific parcel/sim, walking about nude, collared, prim-peni-wielding, and so on is the expected norm.
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Qie Niangao
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01-30-2010 11:50
From: Pussycat Catnap
What a land owner has a right to do is not the same as what is good etiquette to do.

On adult land, if you start restricting out adult conduct, that's your right, but you're still rude for doing it.
I dunno. If somebody shows up at my little store dry-humping a dead chicken, I really don't think it would be rude of me to ask them to leave. But unless necro-bestiality is itself outside the ToS (as is, for example, sexual age-play), then it's "adult content" just like all the prim-willy Willies and all the dames in chains.

Personally, I wouldn't ask the nudists and bondage-gear-wearers to leave, but that's just me. Somebody with a different kink may feel differently.

I'll go further, in fact: I think there's little LL could have done to more discourage Adult content than to concentrate it. Zindra is a mixed bag, but there are sections that are fairly well carpeted with wall-to-wall sex beds, and dungeons as far as the cam can see. To me, those parts are about as sexy as the mattress section at Macy's.

IMHO, a sex palace is a sexier palace when surrounded by non-Adult content than by other sex palaces.
Ceka Cianci
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01-30-2010 12:00
i don't think there is anything rude about anyone using their sim the way they choose to nomatter the rating..just because it says adult doesn't mean it is a penis and bagina drop zone..mature sure wasn't when it was hosting all the many different things..it was the only place you could have the harder core things..
the rude part to me would be going to someones land or sim and ignoring the rules of the sim more than the sim owner doing the fullest extent of a sim rating..
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Pussycat Catnap
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01-30-2010 12:05
From: Qie Niangao
I'll go further, in fact: I think there's little LL could have done to more discourage Adult content than to concentrate it.


Well yes to an extent.

Making Adult land makes is very easy and proper to boot & AR "those guys" when they show up on your mature parcel. If you don't want them to show up on your land, not for even the few seconds it takes them to read your greeter notecard - go to mature where they can't do that.

Of course you can walk around mature land nude. But in so doing you should expect to have to cover up when told to do so. And if you've got the 'erect parts' or the 'dripping cum stains' or the 'xcite props' going as you walk nude on mature - expect to get AR'd.


It also makes it clear that there are places that are in-between 'Disney PG' and 'Orgy central' - mature land.


From: Qie Niangao
IMHO, a sex palace is a sexier palace when surrounded by non-Adult content than by other sex palaces.


Its both true and false that over-saturation hurts any business model.

On the one hand your competition is right there across the street...
On the other hand, your competition's customers are right there across the street...
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Argent Stonecutter
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01-30-2010 12:37
From: Pussycat Catnap
If its adult land, it comes with the expectation that doing that is the norm.
Adult doesn't mean "nudity is OK everywhere". Linden Lab established that right at the start, the Zindra welcome areas are all posted "no nudity".

Adult means "Linden lab will let you allow nudity on your land".

Adult is "what Mature used to mean". That's all. It's not "if you mark your sim adult it's a free-for-all".
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Ayesha Lytton
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01-30-2010 12:51
Adult sim owners can set whatever rules they want. I operate two adult rental sims, and I don't allow businesses to promote non-consensual sex or beastiality...because to me that stuff is sick and I don't want it associated with my company. I've had to toss out a couple of tenants who didn't read the covenant and refused to change their business/listing keywords.
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Abigail Merlin
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01-30-2010 12:57
I personaly can imagine a few sim themes that would definatly be adult but where nudety would be right out tasteless and probably would be disalowed all together, if your memory goes beyond the length of your prim willy you know that hardcore gorish horror is also adult and I would not want anyone humping the corpses with their guts hanging out.
Innula Zenovka
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01-30-2010 16:58
From: Argent Stonecutter
Adult doesn't mean "nudity is OK everywhere". Linden Lab established that right at the start, the Zindra welcome areas are all posted "no nudity".

Adult means "Linden lab will let you allow nudity on your land".

Adult is "what Mature used to mean". That's all. It's not "if you mark your sim adult it's a free-for-all".
That's precisely why i've flagged my sims as Adult -- not because we have wall-to-wall orgies or whatever but so no one has to worry about whether LL will or won't get involved if some chance visitor sees something to which he or she takes exception.

The rule is still the same -- do what you like so long as you don't upset any of the other tenants or Innula.
UnilWay SpiritWeaver
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01-30-2010 17:02
From: Argent Stonecutter
Adult is "what Mature used to mean". That's all. It's not "if you mark your sim adult it's a free-for-all".


Adult is not the old mature. Not in the least. its a lot more expressly open.

Mature is the old mature - with the sole exception that you can't allow certain sexual to be commercial. But you can still walk all over mature land nude, and have all the sex you want if not commercialized.

And Adult is nudity and all that other stuff unless the parcel says otherwise.

Lindens have also said no one would ever get in trouble for being unclothed in the info hub of Zindra - regardless of that sign being on the texture pulled from the pre-canned build.
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