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Dogmi Lord
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01-29-2010 08:17
ok i been trying to find out way is it that a Adult rated sim can have nonadult rated clubs on it and the club not get in trouble. But lord forbid an Adult rated club go anywhere but adult sim we get in trouble. Why do we have to follow the guildline if they dont. Unfair to ppl following the TSO.
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Argent Stonecutter
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01-29-2010 08:19
Where does it say that you're not allowed into an adult-rated sim if you're not going to make digital whoopie?
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Lilliput Little
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01-29-2010 08:40
Does this mean that I'm breaking TOS if I don't bump pixels when in Zindra?
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Phil Deakins
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01-29-2010 08:41
An adult-rated sim can have everything on it.
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Eli Schlegal
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01-29-2010 08:43
An adult-rated sim can have everything on it. Except for child avatars!!!!!!1 ![]() |
DancesWithRobots Soyer
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01-29-2010 08:45
Except for child avatars!!!!!!1 ![]() It can even have child avatars. But they have to stay away from the naughty stuff. _____________________
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Eli Schlegal
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01-29-2010 08:46
It can even have child avatars. But they have to stay away from the naughty stuff. It was a joke. |
RockAndRoll Michigan
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01-29-2010 09:30
ok i been trying to find out way is it that a Adult rated sim can have nonadult rated clubs on it and the club not get in trouble. But lord forbid an Adult rated club go anywhere but adult sim we get in trouble. Why do we have to follow the guildline if they dont. Unfair to ppl following the TSO. On an adult-rated sim there is no such thing as a non-adult rated club. I don't care if people are sitting drinking tea and discussing flower arranging, if the sim is adult rated then it's an adult rated activity. Nobody is going to attend this event if they have not "followed the guildline" (sic) and required adult verification for people entering that property, because that's turned on sim-wide. Keep in mind that the grid is, by definition, 100% adult oriented no matter what sim you're in. Remember that disclaimer on signup that you must be 18 years of age or older to create an account, and the fact that you are required to attest that you are at least 18 in order to create an account? Anybody who isn't and creates an account anyway, has committed a willful, deliberate act of fraud. They are criminals, plain and simple, and deserve to be treated as such. |
Lindal Kidd
Dances With Noobs
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01-29-2010 09:33
ok i been trying to find out way is it that a Adult rated sim can have nonadult rated clubs on it and the club not get in trouble. But lord forbid an Adult rated club go anywhere but adult sim we get in trouble. Why do we have to follow the guildline if they dont. Unfair to ppl following the TSO. Go back and re-read the adult content guidelines. The deal is, adults can handle everything, including fluffy kitties and Disney movies. So they can have raunchy depraved sex one minute, and little bunnies the next. Children, and the so-called adults that think everyone should be treated as children, only get the fluffy kitties, Disney movies, and little bunnies. So: PG land = only fluffy kitties Mature land = fluffy kitties in public, sex in private Adult land = sex, sex...oo look, a fluffy kitty!....sex... _____________________
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Ceera Murakami
Texture Artist / Builder
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01-29-2010 09:46
ok i been trying to find out way is it that a Adult rated sim can have nonadult rated clubs on it and the club not get in trouble. But lord forbid an Adult rated club go anywhere but adult sim we get in trouble. Why do we have to follow the guildline if they dont. Unfair to ppl following the TSO. Despite the fact that SL is, BY THEIR OWN DEFINITION, an "adults-only, must be 18 or older to be here, don't sign up if you don't agree to that" kind of place, LL refused to even consider the other alternative - to isolate the G and PG rated activity to a new, seperate continent that would only have family-friendly fluffy kitties, and no sex allowed, and to make that sort of place the default starting point for all newbies. Instead, they chose to disrupt most of the virtual world, and force-marched the commercial and publicly-accessible or advertised adult activity in this adults-only world off into an isolated corner of the grid. _____________________
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Qie Niangao
Coin-operated
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01-29-2010 09:49
ok i been trying to find out way is it that a Adult rated sim can have nonadult rated clubs on it and the club not get in trouble. ![]() I have three Zindra parcels; only one of them currently has anything (marginally) Adult on it, the others are more or less just landscaped. I'd hate to think that I'm not smutty enough for the neighborhood. |
Innula Zenovka
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01-29-2010 10:08
When we could still put an Adult activity in a Mature-rated sim, we might well be side by side with a PG-rated sim, and those in the PG sim could see and hear all the nasty Adult stuff. What i meant was can an adult flagged sim and a Mature sim be placed side by side with a PG sim in a block or row so i can walk from one private sim to another, so walk from PG into Mature into Adult Not that they had to move to Ursula, sorry i thought i had made that clear See also http://slapt.me/wiki/index.php?title=Mixing_Estates_with_Adult/Mature/PG |
Kara Spengler
Pink Cat
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01-29-2010 10:12
I'd hate to think that I'm not smutty enough for the neighborhood. "you must have this much smut on your parcel to enter"? _____________________
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Lindal Kidd
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01-29-2010 10:32
Which, at least according to Blondin, we still can on a private estate... Sure, but then any complaints from the prudish are the estate owner's problem, and LL can wash their hands of it. _____________________
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
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01-29-2010 10:53
ok i been trying to find out way is it that a Adult rated sim can have nonadult rated clubs on it and the club not get in trouble. But lord forbid an Adult rated club go anywhere but adult sim we get in trouble. Why do we have to follow the guildline if they dont. Unfair to ppl following the TSO. People have been running PG content on Mature land since it first existed. PG content on Adult land violates what rule? (^_^)y _____________________
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Lindal Kidd
Dances With Noobs
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01-29-2010 11:05
"you must have this much smut on your parcel to enter"? Smut! Give me smut and nothing but! A dirty novel I can't shut If it's uncut And unsut....tle. Or.... Indecent magazines galore The dirty pictures I adore I like them more If they're hard core! (Tom Lehrer) _____________________
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Pussycat Catnap
Sex Kitten
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01-29-2010 22:08
Go back and re-read the adult content guidelines. Adult land = sex, sex...oo look, a fluffy kitty!....sex... What if the fluffy kitty wants the sex? ![]() /meow! ![]() If this kitty is yiffing... yeah, it gets a bit inconvenient when certain sorts, such as child AVs, come wandering by. They don't tend to on adult land, but if you put a non-adult themed bit of content in an adult sim, you're encouraging them to drop by, and when they do so, their presence may be off-putting to the neighbors and your other guests that are 'in theme' ![]() ![]() On PG land, the venue owner can expect they won't show up like that, and can even AR them if they do. On mature - guests can expect they might be asked to cover up, and its reasonable to expect that they often will be so asked. So if you put some PG content on adult land, you're a creating a friction where people dressed in ways that are in TOS conflict if together (the child AV and the guy with the erect prim parts for example) will likely come into contact. You're setting them both up to get into a fight or into trouble. Doing that is just bad form. _____________________
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Oryx Tempel
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01-29-2010 22:14
![]() I have three Zindra parcels; only one of them currently has anything (marginally) Adult on it, the others are more or less just landscaped. I'd hate to think that I'm not smutty enough for the neighborhood. Damn you and your clean landscaping. At least throw some penis-shaped topiaries around. |
Qie Niangao
Coin-operated
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01-30-2010 02:18
![]() On PG land, the venue owner can expect they won't show up like that, and can even AR them if they do. On mature - guests can expect they might be asked to cover up, and its reasonable to expect that they often will be so asked. So if you put some PG content on adult land, you're a creating a friction where people dressed in ways that are in TOS conflict if together (the child AV and the guy with the erect prim parts for example) will likely come into contact. You're setting them both up to get into a fight or into trouble. Doing that is just bad form. Firstly, I dare say whatever Adult content I may get up to on my parcel will be off-putting to most neighbours anyway. If their cams wander to my parcel while they're in a pixel-bumping mood, they're better off watching the shrubbery while I'm quietly scripting. Secondly, does an Adult landowner have a right to control conduct on his Adult land? Because it has an Adult rating, is my store required to permit those "guys with erect prim parts on display?" Mind you, I've never actually seen that on Zindra; if I wanted that kind of action, I'd head for Ahern or Linden Village. And even if they came to one of my Zindra parcels with prim junk hangin' out, I don't think I'd be much put out about it. But I mean, in principle, do we really think that landowners should waive their parcel rights when the land is Adult? |
RockAndRoll Michigan
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01-30-2010 02:29
But I mean, in principle, do we really think that landowners should waive their parcel rights when the land is Adult? I don't think you should. If you should then the owners of PG-rated land should as well. After all this is an adults-only grid no matter where you are. If expecting people to act like adults means that a landowner is required to accept uncouth behavior on Zindra then there is no valid argument against accepting the same behavior at Martha's House of G-Rated Tea Drinking on the mainland either. |
White Hyacinth
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01-30-2010 02:57
I read, presented as a "great new feature" that premium members would "from now on" get access to Adult areas. So I thought the age verification nonsense was finally a thing of the past... Until I bounced into a "virtual wall" flying somewhere high above mainland, minding my own business: "You have to be age-verified to enter this land" End of my flying trip!
![]() So if getting access to adult areas does not mean the end of age verification, what _does_ it mean? I have always had access to adult areas. Does it maybe mean access to adult areas will be _taken away_ from non-premium members? As far as age verification is concerned: I would like to wait until my account is 18 years old and then see if LL can refuse me the "age verified" status. ![]() _____________________
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Argent Stonecutter
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01-30-2010 04:01
On an adult sim, people are reasonable expecting that they can TP in nude, guys with erect prim parts on display, subs in collars, or whatever... and can reasonably be offended if asked to cover up. _____________________
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Argent Stonecutter
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01-30-2010 04:04
I read, presented as a "great new feature" that premium members would "from now on" get access to Adult areas. So I thought the age verification nonsense was finally a thing of the past... Until I bounced into a "virtual wall" flying somewhere high above mainland, minding my own business: "You have to be age-verified to enter this land" End of my flying trip! ![]() _____________________
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RockAndRoll Michigan
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Join date: 23 Mar 2009
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01-30-2010 05:18
So if getting access to adult areas does not mean the end of age verification, what _does_ it mean? There's more than one verification, and there's the rub. First there's adult verified. This allows you into adult rated sims such as Zindra. Second there's age verification. Such as using Aristotle/Integrity's service, for example. Similar, but not the same. Should a property owner turn on the flag for age verification, then it won't matter one whit if you're adult verified. Without age verification as well you're not going to go there. It's something Linden Lab never really made all that clear when all this was fresh and still in progress, so there's been a lot of confusion about it. The jira entry referenced above would go a long way towards eliminating the confusion and the problem. |
Ceera Murakami
Texture Artist / Builder
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01-30-2010 09:53
I read, presented as a "great new feature" that premium members would "from now on" get access to Adult areas. So I thought the age verification nonsense was finally a thing of the past... Until I bounced into a "virtual wall" flying somewhere high above mainland, minding my own business: "You have to be age-verified to enter this land" End of my flying trip! ![]() So if getting access to adult areas does not mean the end of age verification, what _does_ it mean? I have always had access to adult areas. Does it maybe mean access to adult areas will be _taken away_ from non-premium members? As far as age verification is concerned: I would like to wait until my account is 18 years old and then see if LL can refuse me the "age verified" status. ![]() There is a parcel-level flag and also a sim level flag from before the Adult Sim Rating concept, that allowed a parcel owner or sim owner to require specificly the Aristotle Ave Verification check. So someone who has access to smut in Zindra today because they have payment info on file, but who has not done the Aristotle check, can still run into these parcels on Mainland that insist ONLY Aristotle ID is accepted. Personally, I consider it an obsolete setting, that they should deprecate and remove. _____________________
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