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Does anyone know about Teen SL?

Jethro Stubbs
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03-11-2008 14:15
So my nephew got me thinking about Teen SL for him and if there would be an advantage for him in SL later if he learned stuff in Teen SL.

Is Teen SL the same as SL, but run by teens? Is there in game adult supervision?

Can you own land? What happens to land owners when they turn 18? Do they get it taken away from them?

Does your main graduate along with his inventory to SL, or do you have to rerole your main and buy new stuff?

Do Lindens cost real dollars in Teen SL?

I'm sure I'd have other questions, but that's a start.
Ann Launay
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03-11-2008 14:18
http://teen.secondlife.com/
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Isabeau Imako
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03-11-2008 14:19
Don't know much about it but would be interested to know the answers to your questions, too.
(Nieces have been asking...)

Here's the link to the site, though.
http://teen.secondlife.com/

Ann! So quick!
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Lindal Kidd
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03-11-2008 14:19
Nobody knows, because they don't let us adults on the Teen grid. Occasionally we'll hear horror stories from people who've turned 18 and escaped to the main grid. They speak of griefing that's worse than anything we see here, and a small, boring place with not much to do. (I saw a map of the grid once, and it WAS small. You could explore the whole place in a weekend, I think.)
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Jethro Stubbs
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03-11-2008 14:28
The second I clicked post, I thought about searching for the link.

But this question isn't covered there (and this is the Teen forum too).

Teens join this world, create items, make stores, make money and buy land. What happens when they turn 18? They start all over again?
Bradley Bracken
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03-11-2008 14:30
From the link it looks like everything is the same except no adults on the grid.

From what I've been told the main difference is that the teen grid is boring. Not many there and little to do. That could have a lot to do with teens expecting to be more entertained than creating their own, but I know some who can't wait to get to the Main Grid.

When they turn 18 I believe their money and their inventory goes with them. I have no idea about their land and such. I can only presume they start fresh.
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Lexxi Gynoid
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03-11-2008 14:31
Here is a map of Teen Life that I have posted before. This is TL in 2008:


I have no information for you, though. Sorry.
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Arua Rotaru
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03-11-2008 14:34
my girls tried out teen sl
they learned to build but most there didnt have land/homes/money to buy things
so they got bored in a week
mostly kids wandering around shovin eachother and cussing and shouting

now they see what i make ask how i made certain things and say they are anxious to turn 18 and come to the main grid
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Jethro Stubbs
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03-11-2008 14:35
From: Bradley Bracken
When they turn 18 I believe their money and their inventory goes with them.


So Linden could expand both economies by allowing the exchange of commerce between the worlds.

And Teens might like some of the stuff that more experienced adults were able to build, which would make them more interested in the game.
Chosen Few
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03-11-2008 14:38
From: Lindal Kidd
Occasionally we'll hear horror stories from people who've turned 18 and escaped to the main grid. They speak of griefing that's worse than anything we see here

Actually most of the stories I've heard from Teen Grid "graduates" have been just the opposite. Almost without exception, they've all described far less griefing over there then we have here. It's not surprising, really. The main grid is a much bigger target.

Mostly any negativity the grads express is sadness over the fact that they're no longer allowed to commune with their old friends, plus an understandable amount of shock that naturally goes with being forced into any brand new environment.
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03-11-2008 14:40
From: Lexxi Gynoid
Here is a map of Teen Life that I have posted before. This is TL in 2008:


I have no information for you, though. Sorry.

Heh, you can call that small if you want, guys, but it's actually considerably bigger than the main grid was when I started.
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Bradley Bracken
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03-11-2008 14:42
From: Jethro Stubbs
So Linden could expand both economies by allowing the exchange of commerce between the worlds.

And Teens might like some of the stuff that more experienced adults were able to build, which would make them more interested in the game.


Opening the economies between the two would be difficult because it would have to be monitored. This is from the Knowledge Base:

From: someone
In most cases, teens found on the Main Grid will be transferred to Teen Second Life, and their inventory will be cleared. This is done to discourage "shopping accounts" created for the purposes of bringing stuff across grids.


I presume they are mostly concerned about adult items going from the Main Grid to the Teen Grid. Theoretically, I don't see any reason why items created on the Teen Grid couldn't be sold on the Main Grid. It would be a one way street, though.
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Lexxi Gynoid
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03-11-2008 14:47
From: Chosen Few
Heh, you can call that small if you want, guys, but it's actually considerably bigger than the main grid was when I started.

Second Life: November 2002:


Second Life: October 2003:
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Bradley Bracken
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03-11-2008 14:54
I became really curious about your question. Actually, I was more curious why there was so little information available. I finally found this in the Wiki which should answer most of your questions:

Teen Second Life

Apparently I was incorrect. Your inventory stays behind.
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Carl Metropolitan
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03-11-2008 14:59
From: Lexxi Gynoid
Here is a map of Teen Life that I have posted before.


I'd like to display that map in-world as part of NCI's SL map collection in Nova Civis Caledon. Do you mind?
Nic Writer
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03-11-2008 14:59
My son has a Teen SL account. He went through the lindens I bought him pretty quickly (and yes, they do cost real dollars) and found the whole thing pretty boring. For a while he had a couple of friends he could talk to, but they seemed to drift apart after a while. According to him, there was a lot of shooting-type griefing, and he couldn't find any classes or activities - though I don't know how hard he looked.

He's into Gaia now, and hasn't touched the Teen SL account in a long time.

My younger son would like an account. He was promised one when he turned 13, but by that time the Lindens had taken away CC verification, and I have neither Paypal nor a cell phone which are the means they accept now. Honestly, based on my older son's experience I haven't been in a hurry to get him into SL - I really should look into other options for him.
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Ann Launay
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03-11-2008 15:00
From: Bradley Bracken
Opening the economies between the two would be difficult because it would have to be monitored. This is from the Knowledge Base:

From: someone
In most cases, teens found on the Main Grid will be transferred to Teen Second Life, and their inventory will be cleared. This is done to discourage "shopping accounts" created for the purposes of bringing stuff across grids.



Stuff? It says STUFF?! Who the hell is writing these Knowledge Base entries? This is the official SL resource, and they can't find a semi-professional way to explain the topic without resorting to 'stuff'?
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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Jethro Stubbs
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03-11-2008 15:12
From: Bradley Bracken
I finally found this in the Wiki which should answer most of your questions...


Yes it does. Thank you.

And you were right:
"They take their inventory--including scripts--with them to the Main Grid where they are invited to join a teen transfer group."
Colette Meiji
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03-11-2008 15:32
From: Jethro Stubbs
So Linden could expand both economies by allowing the exchange of commerce between the worlds.

And Teens might like some of the stuff that more experienced adults were able to build, which would make them more interested in the game.


Eventually the plan is (was?) to merge the two in places.
Colette Meiji
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03-11-2008 15:33
From: Ann Launay
Stuff? It says STUFF?! Who the hell is writing these Knowledge Base entries? This is the official SL resource, and they can't find a semi-professional way to explain the topic without resorting to 'stuff'?


Hey shhh

Least you can understand it. Thats a step up from some Blog entries.
Bradley Bracken
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03-11-2008 15:34
From: Colette Meiji
Eventually the plan is (was?) to merge the two in places.


They are first going to have to finally get age verification in place then ensure that mature sims are mature and pg sims are pg. I don't think we're going to see it happen anytime soon.
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Colette Meiji
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03-11-2008 15:38
From: Bradley Bracken
They are first going to have to finally get age verification in place then ensure that mature sims are mature and pg sims are pg. I don't think we're going to see it happen anytime soon.


Yeah

Almost the one year anniversary of the announcement of the integrity plan! lol


Maybe its a 5 year plan?


Anyway in the EVENTUAL sense it does make sense - since they want to be a 3D internet, they will want all the flexibility of the 2D internet.

Those of who bought the Virtual World side of the spiel (myself included) don't see why they want to do all that.
Desmond Shang
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03-11-2008 19:08
I have a child on the teen grid, and I would call it a positive environment for her overall.
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Asuka Martin
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03-11-2008 19:33
I actually just transfered over from the teen grid yesterday. I played there for about two and a half years. I'd be glad to answer questions
"Can you own land? What happens to land owners when they turn 18? Do they get it taken away from them?"
1. Yes owning land is the same as it is on the main grid, except that teen land costs far less than land on the main grid (less teens are buying land, and therefore the prices are lower). I'm pretty sure you will need to sell any mainland parcels you have before you transfer. If you own an island it is transfered with your account.

"Does your main graduate along with his inventory to SL, or do you have to rerole your main and buy new stuff?"
2. You're inventory transfers with your account.

"Do Lindens cost real dollars in Teen SL?"
3. The linden exchange is the same on the teen grid as it is here. Same exchange rate and all.

The teen grid is like a really small town cut off from everyone else. Everyone knows everyone else, which makes the community pretty tight. Most people are very friendly and welcoming. Designers there are always teaching each other their tricks and learning from each other, without fear of competition. There's a lot of great talent on the teen grid that's not heard about either. I had a lot of good friends there I'll be missing :(

On the downside things spread like wildfire there. Recently there's been an outbreak of stolen skins (half the grid now wears a stolen skin from the main grid) and along with that came a swarm of "He/she steals from the main grid!" rumors that also spread like wildfire.
Sales are also pretty dreadful for content creators.

Community-wise the teen grid is a plus. Everyone was open and friendly and mature content really wasn't a noticeable problem at all.
Business-wise the teen grid has some major disadvantages. Lots of people want to sell but no one wants to buy. Business owners really don't have a fair chance (money-wise) on the teen grid.
Morgaine Alter
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03-11-2008 20:59
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Never mind lol I did not read the second page. My one time idiot moment used up now. :)

But the above post answered all my questions thanks.
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