Permission debate o.0

Not sure if this post was completely directed to me, or anyone in particular for that fact.. But i'll answer it none the less



Im not convinced at all that all people in sl are thieves and liars. My business partner and i do whatever we can for the customer, there have been times where some have asked for refunds/exchanges/help with fixing or modding something/permission changes and we gladly help in whichever way we can.

Yes there are *SOME* people out there that may want to steal a texture here, or an outfit there, or whatever, but 'One bad apple dont spoil the whole bunch girl' (sorry had to sing that one )



From what i have seen lately, all the stores that i had frequented in the past have changed permissions to C/NT, and i was unhappy because i like to have NC/T things, but with bugs and things, i can see why they have done so, and i hadnt actually thought that many people were wanting CN/T items. Now i realize that its probably a safer bet in some situations.

If the reply is "Sorry, I just don't do that" it's perfectly fine obviously. Just because anyone asks doesn't mean they have to, just as long as they're polite to a simple polite question.




For myself and my partner, we try to cater to the customer, because to be completely honest, without the customer, we wouldnt be anything. We mark things one way, but always leave it up for people to I.M us and ask for different permissions on what they may want/need.

http://forums.secondlife.com/announcement.php?f=195

I think it has to do with the above link:



Hopefully it will be back soon!


And as a side note.. I feel so new.. I'm not normally a forums girl and its strange to see that i have such a tiny amount of posts compared to most

Thanks for that link Angeleyes - explains a lot of bracketted commands that are appearing in posts LOL

Heh heh, I inadvertently came to the forum the other day logged in as my finally payment verified alt ..... should have seen my shock when I posted and saw a number 1 !!!

The world isn't that black or white. There is a huge difference between thinking everyone are theives and making replacements simple and easy. Just like sellers shouldn't treat everyone as theives, we shouldn't be treated as greedy. Yes there are some sellers who can be pretty nasty, but there are many of us who have made certain decisions on a number of different factors.

Fact of the matter is that there are *some* people who will scam. Just look at all the people reselling "freebies," many of which weren't intended to be free but a byproduct of a permissions bug. Yes the number of people who would do that is small, but enough for anyone to be cautious.

I sell poses. I switched to copy/no transfer 2 years ago when I started making AOs. Putting a no copy item into any object has always been a gamble, especially before the hud AOs. I had countless people IM me saying they lost that itty bitty object when they rezed it to add more. It's much easier on the customer and myself to say "you have another copy in your inventory" then to dig through months of transaction records.

When I first switched it was before the inventory issues we have right now. Back then, I gave the option of premissions until people completly stoped buying the no copy/transfer poses.

With the stability issues now, not a day goes by that someone doesn't loose the items purchased. In most cases it's more then 1 pose. With them copy/no transfer I don't even have to think about it. On one really bad day I had two customers loose a full set of poses, and not recieve the any of the replacements during the course of an hour. With copy/ no transfer I was comfortable in trying to send them many times without once having to worry about it.

I have actually had many more ask for full perms then no copy/transfer. If I remember correctly, I think it's only been 2. With both, they wanted to be able to pass back and forth from their alts. Which my response was that they'd have better luck not loosing them by purchasing a modeling stand, which will allow them, alts, and friends to use. And further explaining the current risks and the fact that while I will offer trans copies, I'd be less inclined to offer replacements. Both those two thanked me and asked where they could purchase a modeling stand.

As a consumer, while I like the idea of getting rid of items I no longer use, not worrying about loosing an object is more important. I always edit the hair I buy and happy to have a clean version. IRL I have the legal right to copy the cds and dvds I purchased to ensure that I don't scratch the origional. It is then illegal to sell those copies, which if caught can result in a heafty fine and jail time. In SL, there is no recourse for scammers.

Textures, being subject to copyright laws, are intellectual property.

Hello Luth, could you please explain what a modelling stand does? I get the impression from your post one can use it to share things with friends/alts? Is this anything like a posing stand?
TIA

I'm sorry but this forum isn't for this type of discussion. This forum is for questions that can help people, not debate sociopolitical issues. There are many Resident Sites where this discussion is appropriate.

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