Can we raise the ban lines?

I want the option like this. Because since llabs was stupid enought to lower the ban lines things have become worse. Yes i have a protection system high up. But still i have fly off and stil these nuts thinks they can pass right over!

Tybalt my advice turn off no fly and out a protect system to provent those nuts from doing that again!

You could try a secure teleporter, a security orb, or maybe even a locked door, Or you could keep your adult toys in your inventory until you need them, eh? perhaps??
All those option will help you keep your virtual areas private, AND not infringe on someone else’s enjoyment of SL - a win, win as I see it.

The basic RL property and trespass laws don’t apply in SL, so it’s up to the individual to secure their virtual world; there is no “Right to Privacy” other than common courtesy, and common sense.

I never complain if someone cuts through my RL yard for a shortcut or an aircraft flies over my house. I lock my doors or my gate when I want privacy, that enough for me.

It’s human nature to explore this brave new world, and if people find a toy, a place or something fun to do, they will use it. Can you fault someone for that?

I usually ask someone found doing something on my property to “please leave, thank you” 95% of the time I get a “oh, Sorry”, the others get a freeze and eject, I'm not one to take much lip from someone who dosent leave promptly.

Fortunately this doesn’t happen often because I lock my doors, or secure my teleporter.
I usually don’t mind if someone wants use my place to Yiff when I’m not there, but I also don’t provide the opportunity.

Personally, I HATE restrictions and ban lines. I only Ban someone under extreme conditions, but to each their own…….

(BTW, I am an avid SL aviator and yes, I do own my own sims, and yes, ban lines are prohibited in them all, but security orbs with a decent delay of 10-15 seconds are encouraged. locked doors too...)

That is true, but other purposely do it. more like 70% do on purpose and the others 305%don`t.

Why don't you just lower your skybox?

Personally, I find the most effective security script for privacy in a skybox is one that :
1) Scans for the radius of the skybox it is in, detecting all avatars every 15 seconds or so.
2) Compares each person it finds to an 'allow list', or for a active group that matches the security object.
3) If they are not in the allow list, they are instantly teleported home and a 30 day timed ban is added for them on the parcel.

This gives you effectively an "access list only" solution, and is pretty good. Anyone entering your orb's protected skybox/home/scanradius gets banished from your parcel.

I like this solution because :
1) With a long scan interval, like 15s, catching fliers who zoom through little pockets of your airspace is unlikely.
2) With the use of parcel bans, there is no annoying low 'ban ceiling' which they can fly over.
3) With a sensor radius that matches your building, you do not need to worry about people getting wrongly hit with it - they only get hit if they pry their way into your building.

There are various ways to make it more effective, as well :
1) Scan for a 96m radius with an "over my land" check, protecting that portion of your parcel, instead of just your building. This makes it hard for people to see your content without turning their draw distance way up, or getting close to your parcel from a neighbouring one.
2) In addition to the parcel ban, shout a command to other orbs in the sim, so the person can be parcel-banned on all parcels owned by you and co-operative landowners in that sim. This prevents them from watching you from a neighbouring parcel.
3) If there is ANY area from which they can see your content but you cannot ban them, then don't ban them at all. Instead, just use an aggressive TP home system so that they cannot move around to look at your content without being liable to being sent home often. This often encourages them to give up quickly as they can't work out where the 'safe' area is easily, as they can when there are big red banlines marking the secure area.

These solutions are very, very effective at keeping random guests off your property, far more so than 'access lines', because they go up much, much farther.

Obviously, using a system of networked sensors to track avatars that move around on your land and banning like this is probably overkill for mere skybox protection, however, there are sensitive builds on the mainland that might like this. For example, sandboxes which professional builders use to develop their products without fear of their designs being copied.

If you truly want privacy in Second Life, however, you need to get an island and limit access to it using the estate tools. Even then, you have no privacy against Lindens as they can :
* read all your chat/IM logs.
* bypass access control lists (even at the estate level).
* bypass ban lists (even at the estate level).
* become invisible to sensors so your security orbs and radar can't detect them.
* wear 'invisible' avatars so you can't easily see them visually.

Really though, polite security orbs are all the average skybox-user really needs to keep out unwanted guests. I'd hate to see the more powerful forms of security orb used in the same way as access lines - as a "fire and forget" solution which is heavy-handed for the situation. Such usage only convinces the Lindens to cripple access control in SL.

Ideally, the mainland would be understood to be a mostly 'free fly' area and those of us who want some security could just live on islands. I doubt this will happen though.

ahhahahaha results are the same. No matter how low have the skybox there is always a dum dum still cauing grief......

What is wrong with someone using your sexgen bed?
They won't make stains in your blanket you know!

I put a tipjar next to mine and some people have the decency to tip me when they use it.

That made me nearly spit my coffee out, what a great idea

I am in the hate banlines camp, it's not nice living next door to them so wont do it to others. You can also set the land to restrict no payment info on file, generally those wondering around others houses are those that don't have land of their own. By the time you settle in, you learn to respect others privacy.

I don't have banlines or security orbs, rarely I find someone wondering around. The other day someone was in my house, I wasn't using it, I was in my studio. I teleported down to see who it was and left them to it as it wasn't disturbing me. My teleport says private property on it and never found anyone use it yet.

Fixing this -

Ideally, the mainland would be understood to be a least 'free fly' area and those of us who want free fly could just live on islands. I doubt this will happen though.

Thats MY ideal.

LMAO the only good part about banning/ejecting is first getting to freeze them and watch them struggle to move...as you call them out in front of everyone they were pissing off
YAY for freeze!

Dearly Darlings,

Good ol' fashioned white vinegar will get rid of monkey or other poo in your bathtub and also get most stains off sheets. DO not use ammonia based products as it sets in the urine and feces smells. Animals will often return to the scene of the crime if they can still smell eliminations. This is very effective and much cheaper that many products on the market that remove pet stains and odors.

I liked the tip jar idea.

You all have a lovely evening!

Ever Yours,

Mrs. Showdog Tiger

AT LAST! A post from a rational, sensible person.

[/me wanders off to find white vinegar in SL]

On the other hand, people who do take exception should have a perfect right to bring out the long knives on their own property...

Once again your logic fails. That's a dispute between you and the person you rent land from. Don't like it, then you move to a place where you can use security objects. Don't expect the entire grid to change policy just for your own personal convenience. You ain't the princess of SL.