How do I sell my land to newbies

I have some land to sell, and I have been setting the price to just under whatever the lowest is on the search.
My hope was to sell to newbies who missed out on first land, but it just gets bought by land speculators who put it back on sale for an extra couple of hundred L$.
Has anyone any ideas how I could sell to people that want to build a home, rather than make a quick buck?

I like your attitude.

I think the only way to turn this into reality is to NOT put your land for sale, but just place an advertisement about it. Then when people react you will have to try and find out what their intentions are. After that put the land for sale ONLY to this resident.

It is a lot of work, but it would be work for a very positive purpose!

You could do worse than visit The Shelter and pass the word around the helpers and mentors there.

You can't put your land up for sale in the usual way; as you discovered, it will just get bought by speculators. You will have to get personally involved in the process instead. Put up a post in the forums; there is a Land Sales section for the purpose. Hold a land open house and list it in Events; so long as you are actually present to host, it's a legitimate event. (You'll have to pay L$30 to list the land as a meeting place in order to be able to hold an event there, unless you already have.) A cheap classified ad might work, but test your search terms first; if all you could do is get buried in screen 5 of listings without paying a fortune, forget it. If you have a LOT of parcels to sell rather than just one or two, ads in publications like the Metaverse Messenger might be worthwhile.

The idea is to have people contact you personally, either by IM or by showing up at the open house. You can talk to the prospective buyer, check their age if you like, and see if it is somebody you want to sell to. When you reach agreement with a buyer, set the land for sale ONLY TO THAT INDIVIDUAL.

Even after all that, some of the land you sell will probably get resold; some people will manage to smooth-talk you and convince you that they are real homesteaders rather than speculators. But at least not ALL of it will, and you will presumably make that mistake only once with any given avatar.

Seek referrals from people at New Citizens INC, The Shelter, and other Noob friendly sites. If Travis or some other person vouched for someone as an honest newbie, and that person wanted land, arrange a one-on-one sale.

Any open method WILL get scammed by the land speculators.

tsk tsk, scammed? come on now. Name calling

My advice would be check the option in your about land to only allow new members on your land, I think thats an option ....

Im not sure you can - but it doesnt really matter -

you can buy land from the next door parcel - Ive bought a small parcel I had no access to before.

Doesn't work. As long as you can cam in on a piece of ground that is on open sale, you can buy it.

Ah yes, the ole camming trick , forgot about that, maybe this would be a good feature to implement one day, to have a land sell option that has a deny list according to age of avatar. Seems they have already got both fuctions, they jsut need to combine them and make a hybrid.

Engle Burt,

I think the idea of talking to mentors is probably the best, but my real reason for posting is to say "thank you". It is encountering people with your attitude that makes my SL experience so enjoyable.

So, Thank You.

Camming trick? Its a great feature to have. I'm sure any builder would agree.


What keeps a land baron from creating a new alt and buying land based on age?



The easiest thing to do is to add a check box that forces the buyer to keep the land for a certain amount of time before selling it again. This will make buyers think twice before they buy land (do they really want it? are they in this for the long run?) and will dissuade flippers from grabbing it (do I want to pay tier on this plot for the next 1-2 months?)

I didnt do a camming trick I just walked up to the ban lines and clicked on the land beyond them.

I was out of prims and this place was adjacent to my property and for sale.

How would you enforce it though? Once you buy land, it's your land. That's the point of owning land. Your land your rules. If someone else, former owner or whomever, can enforce their rules on the land then you don't own it.

There were a number of people suggesting that this idea be implemented on Frist Land, and personally I think it would have been a good idea. But if LL wouldn't do it for First Land, I doubt it would ever be done for any other land.

Re. the original post, I admire what you're doing. I don't have anything really constructive to suggest, except perhaps go and hang out where the new comers are, meet some, get to know them, then only sell to the ones who you think will be likely to benefit most from your plans without gaming you.

-Atashi

Problem with when I sell my land cheaper then I buy it someone comes in and buys it and just raises it.
Hard part is finding someone who is geninue newbie and won't turn around sell the 512m2 lot for 11k or up.

Are people still buying 512m plots for 11k and up? If so, who are they please? And how can I direct them to my area?

I've been unable to move a 512m plot at L$8250, let alone 11k.

-Atashi

post it to forums and dont put itup for sale have them contact you possibly set something up inside second life when they arrive hopefully their avatar is like only 30 days old and hopefully their main so sell it to them then sell only to them using that option in the land sale box

This wont stop those who are alts and new ones from fooling you but it would be an aweful lot of trouble to go to if they are say more then 60 days old dont accept them as new avatars

other then that there is nothing much you can do

Nothing, except the fact that it would have to be an alt with a premium account, which means that he'd have to pay at least $9.95 for the privilege. True, he could open a trial account and cancel it before the 7 days are up (not downgrade it to basic, because that costs $9.95 also), but at least it would be a lot of trouble to go to just to buy one cheap piece of land.

I have no answer, but I wanted to express my appreciation for your efforts in this!

Why should you move it at 8250 except to a neighbor who is desperate? If you search for land under 7k, you'll find quite a few 512s there.

OMG 11,000l 8,500 lfor a 512 plot? Has second life gone CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I bought my second plot back in December for 7kL$ .. seemed good/average at the time

This would only work with new sims or land taken back by LL....OR...LL could set aside parts of new sims deemed strictly as "first land"

It would be very easy to implement a "timer" so to speak on "new" land once it is purchased. The timer would follow the LL time and would count down 1 month, two months...whatever.

in the light of LL ending First Land provison I can't see much support for this coming from them .. unless an awful lot of us campaigned for it .. and even then unlikely.

Does seem very unfair on newcomers that this has discontinued.

People like myself buy those type of lots because they are expaning in specific area and don't want to move but I am not doing it again.
I wouldn't mind going up one more tier the additional 25 isn't the problem its the fact that lots in my area for example
6000m2 is 121k in lindens
1536m2 is 47777, which has very unattractive red casino on it. luckly its not very popular but as tempting as it I am not paying that price.
I offered owner 30k when he had it for 89k. He said he didnt really want to sell it, lower it for few days down to 34k then raised it back up.
I got most of land I have intially bought most of it at 5100 to 4890 a lot for 512m2 for about 40k except for few lots I was stuck with higher prices because of landbot or people buying and flipping to higher priced lots.
I own or my group does now around 9700m2 in land. If I sold it I wouldn't be able to get same size land for the amount I spent. The higher lots made the total land purchases over 2 month period of time 98k plus free land gift of 512m2,
I can't afford nor do I want to do it another move.

oh gesh I always feel sad when i hear these types of stories....
Well these days Bilbo99 nobody knows