Shields, are they worth it?

My point is quite simple, if the ability to shoot someone in written in the very code of the game, why can't that be changed, rather than try changing people? Setting no shooting on your land, doesn't stop these new fangled guns etc.. from shooting outside your land and into it. Apparently they can rez a bullet directly inside the avatar Some where in the coding of the game, there must be that ability... so why not alter that?

One person loaded down with psitec/protec/someothershieldthinger was running into integer numbers on script time in a sim I managed. That's one person using the resources of 5-6 avatars for no justifiable reason (almost never ever had griefers and push was switched off).

Leave them at home or in the sandbox.

Because the exact same code that gives us frisbees and balls to play catch with, and a myriad other fun things, is also what gives the ability to create "bullets". There is no seperate "shoot him" ability to be removed, just a general "create object and make it move" ability.

The damage/no-damage setting on the land parcel controlls whether a bullet "kills" you. Anything else a "bullet" may do to you is a function of the physics of the game world.

The griefer problem is a social issue, not a technical one. The best that LL can do is give us tools to enforce social rules. Whether or not the current tools are sufficient is a matter of much debate.

I had an amusing experience this afternoon - a junior griefer was shooting other people at my local infohub with a device that shot blue balls that would explode and push them back about 2-3 meters.

I rezzed an invisible prim wall in front of him, to prevent him from shooting the people around me. Well, the next shot he took, the ball hit the wall, stayed there, and he shot backwards up into the air, and disappeared - it was classic !! - lol

He flew back tried again, with the same results and then quickly left for another spot, probably looking for the manufacturer of his "defective" weapon.

I had no idea that would happen - it was priceless *grin*

I agree with Rob there.

I gave up with the use of shield cause it's pretty much useless. Whenever I go to script free area I quickly sit down someplace in case if there's any griefers around.

A few times I got caged immediately as soon as I teleported in. Well doesn't matter. Ignorance is the real key to battle these griefers. Once, a group of the griefers were laughing and kept on caging me while I just stood still. I didn't bounce around cause I don't have any shield on. I just said to them.. "is this suppose to annoy me or something?" and then i just ignore them and IMed my friends and edit some scripts. A few minutes later they went away. IGNORANCE IS A POWERFUL WEAPON.

I don't really get the use of weapons. Cause it doesn't do anything. Orbiters..you get orbited you can just teleport or log out and log back in. SL is not MMORPG where you can die and the enemy (griefers) can loot your stuff.

Speaking of cagers... it only works in script free sim right? I saw someone got caged in an infohub..no-script zone. Or maybe the cager was outside the infohub and just shoot the cage from script free zone to no-script zone?

With that said...how about if there's another kind of griefers...that don't use guns...instead they send you like textures? i saw someone did this... I quickly teleported out of there...but the person announced "so and so is a victim of 1k textures" I'm not sure if he's telling the truth or not. But I didn't stay to find out. But I imagine receiving that much inventory could crash SL?

As others have said, shields offer limited protection that works against low-end griefers ... and that's about it. Then again, most griefers you're likely to encounter are low-end.

Personally, I don't bother with my shield anymore, chiefly because I don't consider the extra lag it generates to be a worthwhile tradeoff for the fact that it might protect me from the one or two griefer attacks I might personally experience in, oh, half a year or so ... if that. If I spent a lot of time in places griefers regularly hit, though, I might consider wearing it again.

Still, in a non-damage sim, nothing beats simply sitting.

I don't think shields are worth it.

In a damage sim, shields often give you a reputation of being a SLer with no skills, and if it's not Linden owned land, chances are you might get banned.

In a safe sim, it'd be cheaper to just sit down on an object and AR the greifer...

Whic is funny because the amount of shields I have sene in Jessie is just plain nuts. 90% of people I've seen were using them. And many were VERY skilled.

Happened to a friend of mine and was extremely annoying, it had the effect of locking up her client while it tried to deal with all the incoming textures appearing on her screen with the accept/discard request - started another thread about it

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Sounds too good ta be true, I'm IMing you hahaha

I attrack griefers to a ridiculous degree for some reason. Maybe cause I don't wear bling guns & dreads, and I don't claim ta be in "an army"? *shrugs* I A.R. like I change socks...ALL enemies are "fair game"

I think they are completely worth it if you know what you are buying and tend to get attacked a lot for no apparent reason other than appearance.

I know people who are quite ordinary in appearance, yet seem to get bombed or shot almost every other day! Some people are just magnets for this stuff, despite being well-mannered, just generally nice people.

I think you will all find salvation thru the indoctrination of pacifism as a way of life. I am a pacifist and I urge you all to find your inner calm.

IM me in-world for a hug.

I like chairs..

and I like the poetic justice.. that the best defense against someone bent on aggravating you, is just to sit down calmly.

A good, comfortable looking chair should be every sandboxer's first build. And if you're building in a sandbox that gets a lot of greif traffic.. it's definitely a good idea to make that chair a part of your building platform.

The idea of using a "non-physical vehicle" is precisely the same.. you're sitting on a chair.. only thanks to some sneaky scripting, you can move the chair about, without turning it physical (and thus vulnerable to push attacks).

non-phys "anti greifing vehicles" come in a number of styles- several of which actually mimic the animations of avatar flight.. making you appear to the outside world, to be "just another avatar hovering in the air.

Chairs only work if they're not crashing the sim around you. A few bullets you can ignore by sitting on something, but a sim crash logs you off no matter what..

shields from a scripter's point of view

-shield: constant scanning and multi threading to defend you, eat resources as long as you keep it on, unreliable.
-gun: spam your target of bullets as soon as you squeeze the trigger , only one really need to go through really since 99% of the sl guns do 100% damage per bullet.

both: laag laag lag,

Sadly the gun makers are usually the most sucky scripters of SecondLife, efficiency and smart coding are generally unknown words to them.


crashing a sim on purpose is enough to get you banned anyway.

I spend a fair bit of time in combat zones and without shields its simply a matter of s/he who shoots fisrt, wins.

Obviouly your in a combat sim but to just get hit, from god knows who and sent home is a little dull, if you come back what are you going to do, shoot at everyone in the hope you get the one that shot you making a sim full of enemies? naaa not for me.

Alot of the fun for me comes from my shields, on a good day i can escape dieing for 30 odd seconds, in this time my shiled is telling me who is shooting me and gives me the time to attack back, Ahhh revenge is sweet!

In a non combat sim... I've had someone pull out a huge automatic gun and just open fire at me, my shields worked a treat. I must of had around 100 hits in my shield, none got though. After a few seconds i laughed and *cough* removed them, in self defence kinda way

Yeah, but ain't no "sheild" gonna help you neither.

There's no attack that can harm you, short of crashing the sim, in a non-damage-enabled area. The annoying followers can still lock onto you by name, but a few mutes, and those are all handled.

Simple fact. if you're building in the sandbox.. a comfy chair is all the defense you need.