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Morgaine Alter
dreamer
Join date: 10 Jan 2008
Posts: 1,204
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02-21-2008 13:48
Pretty creepy avatar posted there, its more like a mask.
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Isabeau Imako
P'tite Poulette
Join date: 13 Sep 2007
Posts: 2,335
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02-21-2008 13:52
The Tron thing they do to get him on the grid must shorten it. Wonder what else was shortened... nm, I don't really want to know. |
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Colette Meiji
Registered User
Join date: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 15,556
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02-21-2008 14:02
Wonder what else was shortened... nm, I don't really want to know. I don't even WANT to know how scary that looks, shortened or not! |
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Nyoko Salome
kittytailmeowmeow
Join date: 18 Jul 2005
Posts: 1,378
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02-21-2008 14:25
Woohoo, another opportunity to point out my favorite example of what's wrong with photorealistic skins (from SLProfiles). This avatar has haunted many a nightmare, I assure you:   yeah hey, his neck disappeared between photo #1 and 2  is he like ET??_____________________
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Colette Meiji
Registered User
Join date: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 15,556
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02-21-2008 14:28
yeah hey, his neck disappeared between photo #1 and 2 is he like ET??well looking how badly the skin matches there - do you blame him for getting rid of his neck? LOL |
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Cunundrum Alcott
A Sardonic Pessimist
Join date: 15 Jan 2007
Posts: 773
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02-21-2008 14:37
When I see images like this I think, WOW, they are getting pretty close
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Rhaorth Antonelli
Registered User
Join date: 15 Apr 2006
Posts: 7,425
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02-21-2008 14:53
this skin was made using a rl face that I did on the afore mention avatar island system
not all photo faces end up scary hehe (of course I did a lot of retouching on this skin)  _____________________
Morpheus Linden: But then I change avs pretty often too, so often, I look nothing like my avatar.  They are taking away the forums... it could be worse, they could be taking away the forums AND Second Life... |
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Lana Tomba
Cheap,Fast or Good Pick 1
Join date: 5 Aug 2004
Posts: 746
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02-21-2008 15:04
Iv'e seen a photorealistic skin that looked like rambo..One of the most depressing nights in Second Life that I had.
This guys was convinced his skin was good. I gave him every free good skin i could find...i could tell as soon as I TPd out he was going back to "Rambo" but he humored me. He lived in a small house on a mainland parcel that he called his "mansion"...and..I'm sorry it made me wanna cry.I couldn't figure out if he was an old homeless guy in rl..a few bricks shy of a load...or some 13 yr old boy who had just been beat by his parents and denied dinner..sent to his room. He had tried to wear clothing that indeed were rambo-ish..but it still looked..sad...scarf around the head..camo pants..Why did that make me feels so bad? His SL existance seemd so "lonely". It broke my heart  ~Lana Tomba _____________________
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Wildefire Walcott
Heartbreaking
Join date: 8 Nov 2005
Posts: 2,156
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02-21-2008 16:07
yeah hey, his neck disappeared between photo #1 and 2 is he like ET??Perhaps he was just happy to see you? _____________________
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Wildefire Walcott
Heartbreaking
Join date: 8 Nov 2005
Posts: 2,156
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02-21-2008 16:09
Pretty creepy avatar posted there, its more like a mask. Yeah, Silence of the Lambs-style. _____________________
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Sling Trebuchet
Deleted User
Join date: 20 Jan 2007
Posts: 4,548
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02-21-2008 16:23
Yeah, Silence of the Lambs-style. Now we know why the lambs were keeping quiet. Shhhhhh .. and don't make eye-contact. He baaaaaaaaaaad! |
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Sling Trebuchet
Deleted User
Join date: 20 Jan 2007
Posts: 4,548
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02-21-2008 16:24
Sorry!
That was a sheep shot. |
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Colette Meiji
Registered User
Join date: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 15,556
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02-21-2008 16:31
Sorry! That was a sheep shot. lol  |
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Nyoko Salome
kittytailmeowmeow
Join date: 18 Jul 2005
Posts: 1,378
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02-21-2008 16:38
Sorry! That was a sheep shot. ewwwww (and that's another 'sheep joke'_____________________
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Wildefire Walcott
Heartbreaking
Join date: 8 Nov 2005
Posts: 2,156
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02-21-2008 17:46
*slaps all around*
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Cat Gisel
Registered User
Join date: 28 Nov 2006
Posts: 33
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02-21-2008 19:08
Hi (first post!). I met someone in world last month who had done this. She said she used photos of herself to create it, including nude. It looked horrible. Very blotchy and uneven everywhere considering she had no photoshop experience. She wanted to look like her RL self and she was happy with it so thats what counts in the end I guess. Good for her trying it herself. I see no problem with anything in SL looking too realistic, lol. As for the pictures, I have done work with teenagers about the internet, sexuality and identity...doing this yourself is one thing, but these services where you send pics..., sorry, but ain't nobody I never met getting a pic of me nude Be very careful folks...not paranoid, just..careful. |
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Yuriko Nishi
Registered User
Join date: 27 Feb 2007
Posts: 288
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02-21-2008 19:23
some skins are really good, but as long as we are stuck with the low detail av meshes and the horrible hip/thigh joints, edgy female breasts, feet that look like attached boxes ect. avs will never look realistic.
wl makes the mesh look even worse. in some light settings a formerly cute face becomes really scary (nearly impossible to create a "smooth" face shape) i dont blame wl. it just shows the flaws by using proper lighting. ah well i remember LL talking about an av update since i am in sl (1 year). dont see it comming too soon though (whine whine my 4k l$ skin is worthless now) hehehe (could make the new mesh compatible to old uv maps though, or just add a new mesh so people can pick the old or new one... ah well what a nice dream ) |
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Rhaorth Antonelli
Registered User
Join date: 15 Apr 2006
Posts: 7,425
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02-21-2008 19:46
Good for her trying it herself. I see no problem with anything in SL looking too realistic, lol. As for the pictures, I have done work with teenagers about the internet, sexuality and identity...doing this yourself is one thing, but these services where you send pics..., sorry, but ain't nobody I never met getting a pic of me nude Be very careful folks...not paranoid, just..careful. I do not know of any places that do skins from nude shots of one's self the one I mentioned is only done from face shots _____________________
Morpheus Linden: But then I change avs pretty often too, so often, I look nothing like my avatar. They are taking away the forums... it could be worse, they could be taking away the forums AND Second Life... |
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foehn Breed
More random than random
Join date: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 1,142
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02-21-2008 20:26
I've also seen male skins with hairy backs and butts. Momma no like. There is a whole store! where you can buy diff wearable layers of hair density, for guys that give the impression of body hair. The pubes are hysterical, sorries they really are. Anyone can be a furbear! I bought some for my legs and dressed up like the Lunch Lady, but is funny too to be glamed and sneak on when some one is hitting on you or a dying lull in a club. _____________________
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Wildefire Walcott
Heartbreaking
Join date: 8 Nov 2005
Posts: 2,156
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02-21-2008 22:55
There is a whole store! where you can buy diff wearable layers of hair density, for guys that give the impression of body hair. The pubes are hysterical, sorries they really are. Anyone can be a furbear! I bought some for my legs and dressed up like the Lunch Lady, but is funny too to be glamed and sneak on when some one is hitting on you or a dying lull in a club. I was just telling my partner about your post and someone overheard and asked me for a LM! What's the name of this place? _____________________
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
Posts: 4,694
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02-22-2008 06:58
...I bought some for my legs and dressed up like the Lunch Lady... _____________________
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Sling Trebuchet
Deleted User
Join date: 20 Jan 2007
Posts: 4,548
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02-22-2008 07:12
...... I bought some for my legs and dressed up like the Lunch Lady, but is funny too to be glamed and sneak on when some one is hitting on you or a dying lull in a club. I did that sort of thing once with a guy who was being a pest - and was waiting confidently on one of a pair of dance poseballs. Quick change: Shape and skin = Hobo General -- Think very elderly, very emaciated orang outang with buck teeth, a pipe and spectacles Clothing = Silks The reaction was *totally* realistic Poooof! Gone he was!! |
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
Posts: 4,694
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02-22-2008 07:21
*Remembers that scene from "The Shining".* (^_^)
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Michael Bigwig
~VRML Aficionado~
Join date: 5 Dec 2005
Posts: 2,181
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02-22-2008 09:13
From a graphic designer and cg artist, I'd have to say, 'Heck no they can't be too real!'
I'm not concerned with the uncanny valley, I'm concerned with realism and immersion. And in regards to SL...we don't have to worry about skins looking too real...the graphics engine within SL can't render realistic enough skins to even consider them reaching an uncomfortable level of realism. Look at CG graphics in movies--movies like FF:tSW--those graphics are getting to the photo real level. Movies like LotR...that's realism...Second Life isn't any where NEAR that level of CGI. Why would I think skins are too real? When we start seeing games with graphics like LotR...then I'll start telling you I get the willies when I headshot someone...but right now, Crytek's engine is the best of the best right now...and again, SL is no where near that level yet. In another 7 years...metaverses will have Crisis level graphics...that will be cool. _____________________
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Ann Launay
Neko-licious™
Join date: 8 Aug 2006
Posts: 7,893
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02-22-2008 09:18
From a graphic designer and cg artist, I'd have to say, 'Heck no they can't be too real!' And what does the cyborg have to say?  _____________________
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