Vista conspiracy?

I run SL on Vista and it is... Less stable than on XP. But it does run.

I did not want Vista, but the shop refused to sell me a PC without it.

This is how far we have come with Microsoft: They can DICTATE us which OS to buy.

you are lucky that you've the shop to sell to you early,, XP will be extinct soon for new comely softwares,, and sooner or later, i will need to get Vista too

yup... microsoft is really really ******* in OS

The problem is erroneously stated as been Vista. That is not the case. The only ones who are unable to run SL in Vista are those whose computers have an ATI Radeon x series graphics card. ATI has not issued an updated driver for this series.

i got a large selection of games running under vista (both old and new). All run well at optimal frame rate. SL is another story. no matter if its in vista, XP, mac or Linus it just don't work well. some lucky one have work good other well... tend to crash the video driver on a regular basis. SL is the problem. Sloppy programming, extremly unstable early alpha client. Bugs on top of bugs, what do you expect. Give pretty sky and sculpty to the MINORITY of peoples who are lucky enough to have SL work half the time and leave the majority in the ditch. that is the LL way, get use to it.

Only a total ban on any new feature of any kind and having 100%(not 70%) of the technical work on bug will cure SL, nothing else.

Vista is DRM nightmare operating system. People shouldn't support Vista... or you perpetuate the decline of freedom in regard to computing.

well the next mainstream Os os Mac os X , which is a shame becuse back in 99-2000 when they were brewing X up apple was more interested in their glossy bubble computers and i-life stuff than to port a x86 based version of their killer OS

the time was right, in pc land windows 98 was king, 2000 was for the nerds and xp was something more than a window skin and abunch of annoying wizards that infringed on monopoly laws

it was a fresh start for mac and ppl were willing to take that extra little jump on both sides of the war

but whatever im not genius like steve jobs, i never ran off the apple 2 team that made my company, drove it into bakrupcy, and released a string of crap products to expand the apple brand past overpriced pc's and i-pod

(really now apple tv that plays 1 format? i-phone thats already failed 3 times by other companys becuase ppl put the phone up to their face and it hit all the buttons constantly?? re-tard-ed)

I don't support Apple either. I am a Linux user, for work and play.

That's one of Vista's "security" features. as soon as the voltage fluctuation on your mainboard and cards gets too high, it interprets this as hack attempt and restarts itself quickly. Newer drivers might help there a little, a different mainboard with better voltage regulation and or different powersupply or different videocard from another manufacrurer might help more. I'd try a newer driver first though (its the cheapest option after all ^^ the latest vista nvidia videocard beta driver is 158.42. there are also 158.43 drivers, but they're about the same as the 158.42 one. the 165.05 drivers were highly beta and don't work that well.
You usually can find the latest beta drivers here:
http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/nforce-drivers-vf28.html
I use both, Linux x64 and Vista x64 and while Vista is generally a bit slower than Linux it still works fine on my PC, which is a socket 939 AMD 4000+ with 2400mhz, 1GB RAM DDR400, and an Nvidia 7600gt PCIe card with 256MB RAM.

As far as i know its the ATI people who mostly have issues with Vista and SL, but a driverupdate should fix that.
http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
That should do the trick ^_^

-Asriazh

If its a voltage issue, how come all my other games don't have that problems? All problems point in only on direction! --->>>>> SL

Vista does NOT montior MB voltages. Some CPUs/MBs monitor their OWN temps and will clock down in /extreme/ situations...

One thing about SL and video cards and voltages. SL uses more juice from your CPU and from your video card than ANY OTHER GAME atleast twice what Obliovion at the same rez and max everything. It runs cards and cpus at max temp and max current use.

If your cooling is not that great or your power supply on the thin side there could be problems that show up as random instant SL crashes or machine restarts. The inside of your computer case may be getting extremely hot due to poor circulation and then the MB components, memory and everything else can overheat. It's a common problem.

Why would Microsoft waste time and resources to compete with SL? Microsoft could simply write a check to LL for world domination of SL.

. o O (Or Vista sucks and it slows everything down.)

Thanks for the info Asriazh. I've already updated the driver for my videocard and the problem is still there. I don't mind if the viewer crashes once in a while (I can go to RL easuer that way lol). It doesn't crash like all the time so, no biggy...

I will however look out for new updates for the driver and install them as soon as they are not beta anymore (I have a problem with beta, most of the time it doesn't work)...

SL works fine under Vista except for the videocard, the rest is just fine.

Greetz,

Camden

I got a dual boot machine, and SL does not crash in XP, but does in vista. (Well the video driver crash in vista). But all other games work the same in both (maybe 1 or 2 more FPS in XP).

Interesting Facts:

1. SL compare to any other games is extremly slow and laggy
2. If SL use twice as much resources as oblivion but still at least 5 to 20 times slower then oblivion, this tell a lot about the quality of SL code...

I must be on the oddball end of things, SL runs great on Vista for me, spec:

AMD X2 6000+
2 Gigs RAM
Nvidia 7800GTX's
Vista Ultimate 64 bit. Windows Exp index 5.6

SL runs better, smoother and faster on my Vista drive than it ever did on XP Pro. Framerates are higher, colors are brighter, textures look better, and the recurring sound nightmares I've been having in XP are gone. I love it.

On the same note, a friend of mine runs SL on one of those hacked, frankenstien versions of Vista he d/l'ed off a torrent site, and has had nothing but trouble with it. His machine is similar in spec to mine, but SL just refuses to behave. Makes me wonder....

Put me down for Vista and SL work. I'm running a Dell Inspiron 6400 laptop with Vista 32 and it runs fine, well as stable as SL has ever run for me on any of my computers

Specs are as follows:
Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 4MB
2GB Ram DDR2 533MHZ
NVidia GeForce 7300 256MB(with the latest driver updates otherwise SL won't work)

SL looks great on this computer compared to my older XP machine.
The only thing I have to watch is CPU/GPU/HD temps as SL uses tons of juice all the time but HHD Thermometer and I8kfanGUI help me keep an eye on that. I just shut down for 10 minutes if the temp starts to get high. So make sure you know your temperature which probably explains alot of peoples random shutdowns or freezing when using SL

Hope that helps

Yes, it's a great conspiracy! LL hates Vista! They hate Windows so much that they don't provide a Windows version at ALL!* When voice hits the grid, Windows won't be supported!**

AND LL IS RUN BY GIANT BLOOD DRINKING LIZARDS!

It's all so CLEAR now!




* Untrue.

** Also untrue. Linux is getting the shaft on this one.

Yep totally agree complete conspiracy.

Only problem I have with SL in vista is i have to go fullscreen then back to windowed mode cuz the graphics glitch out if i dont. (It's cuz my video card sucks and I know it hehe)

Ok here goes... took me some time to find my post... I almost gave up.

Intel Core 2 - 1.86GHZ
3317 MB RAM
32 BIT OPERATING
VISTA HOME PREMIUM

... having trouble locating my driver info. All I could find was
Intel G965 Express Chipset Family

at any rate, I know I told the company that built my PC that I needed a video card specifically for SL. I probably should've been more specific.
I went to the Nvidia site to get the driver needed... as I recall I downloaded when I had XP on old PC. I received a message on install that ' Nvidia setup program could not locate any drivers that are compatible with my current hardware'....
ok? so a less technical explaination would help???

So.... The fact that your local computer retailer didn't offer the choice means that Microsoft is DICTATING your options?

You could always buy a Mac, several flavors to choose from, and you can certainly go with Linux, the price simply can't be beat, and it comes in more flavors than you could possibly ever want to choose from.

Sounds to me more like you got a shitty shop than anything else. If I personally felt strongly enough about that issue, I'd shop elsewhere.

Well, come to think of it, I did exactly that. I wanted to buy my wife a new PC recently, and Dell, Best Buy, and several others only offered Vista. So I ended up getting one at a large local retailer with XP Media Center. And in the end, I spent about half of what Dell wanted for a comparable machine. To hell with Dell

Vote with your dollar man, none of these companies controls your wallet

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My Vista box is 64 bit business; runs SL fine. Dell Precision 670, 2GB RAM, NVidia card.

(the XP box beside it, on the other hand, with an ATi card: that's knackered for SL)

Ok... so please do tell... Do I need to have a different video card installed or is there a download that I missed. Come on guys... SL feen here!!!