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JiN Amdahl
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05-26-2007 09:44
Message sent to the manager.
The rest of the people who writes here is useless commentaries.
Dnali Anabuki
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05-26-2007 10:03
I don't know if this is the best place to do this. You need to do an Abuse Report from within the game and you need to be specific as to the avatars that are allegedly underage. Linden Labs doesn't read these forums in anyway that is effective for your needs.

I understand your concern if this is the case but going through the channels by making an AR is the best way to go. As well, please give LL time to investigate.

You are upset by this but it would probably be better for you to take the time to do this right.
Colette Meiji
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05-26-2007 10:05
From: JiN Amdahl
I go days monitoring a place called Storie of O, a BDSM Club with dancers and scorts.

Well... In this Club there are several girls of less than 16 years offering sexual services.

If that club is not investigated and closed before the next Monday (2007 May 28), I am going to sue judicially against the owner of this club, and against SL's administration.

Besides i will do this information publishes. Now SL is very famous and all the mass media are interested in knowing this.

I expect for the response from someone responsible for SL's administration and the immediate closing of Storie of O.

Greetings



Did you even contact the Lindens at all?

This Forum is not a Linden Contact method.

It is not listed in the contact page.
Avacea Fasching
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05-26-2007 10:08
either way you should First, go through an Abuse Report with Linden Labs, and allow more time for them to respond or take action.....

Monday, May 28, is a holiday in the United States
Brenda Connolly
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05-26-2007 10:10
From: someone
I go days monitoring a place called Storie of O, a BDSM Club with dancers and scorts.


That's all you have to do in SL? Be a Morality Cop? How do you know these "girls" are 16?

If these allegations are true use the proper reporting channels, as stated above. It's a Holiday weekend in the States, I doubt any lindens are even reading the Forums. Use the AR system, and please have some evidence to back up your claim. Empty allegations delivered in extortionist style usually aren't taken seriously.

And what exactly are you going to "sue" for. Unless you are a Law Enforcement Official. you don't have much to go on at this point. (And no Law Enforcement Official would have posted such a statement in the first place)
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Hypatia Callisto
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05-26-2007 10:13
/me sits around with popcorn and waits for the inevitable

*lock*
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Colette Meiji
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05-26-2007 10:13
From: Brenda Connolly
Empty allegations delivered in extortionist style usually aren't taken seriously.



Except by the media :mad:
Brenda Connolly
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05-26-2007 10:14
From: Colette Meiji
Except by the media :mad:

Forgot about them..... :rolleyes:
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Kidd Krasner
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05-26-2007 10:18
Part of me says this is a troll, because the broken English doesn't look like the sort of mistakes I'm used to seeing by non-native speakers from various parts of the world.

In any event, the idea of suing is laughable. You can't sue someone for committing a crime unless you've been personally injured as a result. You can report them to the authorities, who are free to decide whether or not to prosecute.

In this case, however, it's not at all clear that any laws are being violated. Laws against obscenity and child pornography apply to depictions of sex, not depictions of the offering of virtual sexual services. Could you imagine if a movie like Risky Business were declared illegal? Even those countries that ban virtual child pornography seem unlikely to apply such laws to the situation described here.
Colette Meiji
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05-26-2007 10:19
From: JiN Amdahl
I go days monitoring a place called Storie of O, a BDSM Club with dancers and scorts.


You monitor them? why? I find this interesting.

From: JiN Amdahl

Well... In this Club there are several girls of less than 16 years offering sexual services.


Player age or Avatar age?

From: JiN Amdahl

If that club is not investigated and closed before the next Monday (2007 May 28), I am going to sue judicially against the owner of this club, and against SL's administration.


So you expect them to investigate the club based on you simply posting it on here without offering any eviidence at all.

And you expect the results of the investigation to be "guilty as charged" with an incredibly short timeline in your ultimatum.

If Linden labs doesnt find any evidence .. what then? You still intend to sue them.

Have you even spoken to a lawyer who would take this case? USually its a good idea to speak to a lawyer before threatening litigation.

From: JiN Amdahl
expect for the response from someone responsible for SL's administration and the immediate closing of Storie of O.
Greetings


You havent even contacted anyone from SL's administration from what we can see.
Colette Meiji
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05-26-2007 10:21
From: Kidd Krasner
Part of me says this is a troll, because the broken English doesn't look like the sort of mistakes I'm used to seeing by non-native speakers from various parts of the world.

In any event, the idea of suing is laughable. You can't sue someone for committing a crime unless you've been personally injured as a result. You can report them to the authorities, who are free to decide whether or not to prosecute.

In this case, however, it's not at all clear that any laws are being violated. Laws against obscenity and child pornography apply to depictions of sex, not depictions of the offering of virtual sexual services. Could you imagine if a movie like Risky Business were declared illegal? Even those countries that ban virtual child pornography seem unlikely to apply such laws to the situation described here.



Maybe its just an advertizemnt for that BDSM brothel.
Hypatia Callisto
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05-26-2007 10:21
From: Brenda Connolly
Forgot about them..... :rolleyes:


The Germans already aired that story. Old news. Besides they don't post in the forum, they go directly to print after getting the necessary info. They don't post forum threats, that's a great way for them to get sued themselves with an injunction against the story.

Next!

It's probably some competitor, or a troll.
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Brenda Connolly
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05-26-2007 10:24
From: Hypatia Callisto
The Germans already aired that story. Old news. Besides they don't post in the forum, they go directly to print after getting the necessary info. They don't post forum threats, that's a great way for them to get sued themselves with an injunction against the story.

Next!

It's probably some competitor, or a troll.

Maybe it's the club owner, trying to get a little free publicity. ;)
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Hypatia Callisto
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05-26-2007 10:26
From: Brenda Connolly
Maybe it's the club owner, trying to get a little free publicity. ;)


yeah, I hope the OP gets a suspension... and I'm wondering where the guy with the keys is already :)

if any thread needs locking, this one is it.
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05-26-2007 10:54
From: JiN Amdahl
I go days monitoring a place called Storie of O, a BDSM Club with dancers and scorts.

Well... In this Club there are several girls of less than 16 years offering sexual services.

If that club is not investigated and closed before the next Monday (2007 May 28), I am going to sue judicially against the owner of this club, and against SL's administration.

Besides i will do this information publishes. Now SL is very famous and all the mass media are interested in knowing this.

I expect for the response from someone responsible for SL's administration and the immediate closing of Storie of O.

Greetings


One thing to consider before you sue anyone is you need to show that you are in some way harmed by them or their actions. If not you are filing a frivilous lawsuit and there are legal consequences of that. In addition if you sue them for being under age you had better be correct, if not you are liable for a countersuit and you will be the one who will be paying damages. Also the tone of this post can be used against you as it seems that your main wish is to profit by this lawsuit and it could be used as proof of an extortion attempt. Your threat of going to the media to cause harm to LL and the parties involved can put you in very serious legal trouble.
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Rhyph Somme
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05-26-2007 10:54


This will not end well.

IBTL.

I fail to see the question.
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Maja Koenig
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05-26-2007 11:26
Wonder if he owns some crappy new BDSM club somewhere, where the low shiny black paint is still drying on the plywood.
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05-26-2007 15:55
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Howard Sachs
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05-26-2007 16:09
Try calling Jack Thompson, he would love to help you out with this :)

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05-26-2007 17:11
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Susie Boffin
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05-26-2007 18:19
This is the funniest thread since some kid named Connor was trying to recruit soldiers for his "massive army" in this forum. :)
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05-26-2007 18:47
I'm going to sue for... um... For my video game being scratched!! *holds it up under your nose and points at the scar* SEE THAT! The Lindens MUST have done THAT!


*eye roll* ¬_¬; Come ooooooon.... I think this dude was just going to some brothel looking for chicks, some girl didn't like his attitude, and he got embarassed, now he's seeking revenge. This is stupid.
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Osgeld Barmy
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05-26-2007 18:50
your 16 year old female prostitute is really a 45 year old dude with a beer gut looking for a cupple extra bucks
CobaltBlue Mill
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05-26-2007 19:32
From: JiN Amdahl
I go days monitoring a place called Storie of O, a BDSM Club with dancers and scorts.

Well... In this Club there are several girls of less than 16 years offering sexual services.

If that club is not investigated and closed before the next Monday (2007 May 28), I am going to sue judicially against the owner of this club, and against SL's administration.

Besides i will do this information publishes. Now SL is very famous and all the mass media are interested in knowing this.

I expect for the response from someone responsible for SL's administration and the immediate closing of Storie of O.

Greetings



JiN,

Several questions:

1) Do you lack a sufficiently stimulating RL that you feel a need to become a self-appointed vigilante on SL?

2) Do you have such superior psychic powers that you know without a doubt these are 16 year olds? (which is the age of consent in many countries)

3) Are you such a tactless and graceless busybody as to issue ultimatums over matters that have no effect on your life?

4) Are you planning on stalking every BDSM store for possible violations?

5) Do you live under a bridge and harass travelers? Your petty trollish behavior suggests as much.

Please do not use the pedophile argument here as it will not wash. You are not looking out for children, you are simply trying to impose your narrow moral attitudes on SL.

Please get a life.
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05-26-2007 19:39
One word.

Idiot.

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