Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
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05-15-2007 13:49
From: Dakotaflyer Rau They were interviewing people once on the BBC and they talked to this one guy who said. "I do not have the time to monitor everything my children do on the internet, that is why the government should be more strict on what is allowed."  You should be a responsible parent you moron! And not let something like the internet babysit your kids. I dont get is why these people have been blessed with children and others not.  If they haven't got time to monitor everything their kid is doing then they should take the modem away when they can't watch what they're doing. I get quite annoyed with parents saying "We don't understand it" or "We can't watch them all the time". Ok rant over!
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Rusty Satyr
Meadow Mythfit
Join date: 19 Feb 2004
Posts: 610
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05-15-2007 13:55
I'm all for strict age verification, because I'm a bitter.
When *I* was a kid, if I wanted to get my hands on some porn, my choices were:
Dumpster diving
Bribing some old homeless guy to buy some for me
Kids now-a-days have it too darned easy. How are they going to learn anything if they don't have to work harder for it?
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Walker Moore
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Join date: 14 May 2006
Posts: 1,458
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05-15-2007 14:06
From: Rusty Satyr Kids now-a-days have it too darned easy. How are they going to learn anything if they don't have to work harder for it? lol. children are very resourceful. in the late 80s, my Dad's computer had a lock and key on the front panel which stopped it booting, and he'd lock it before he went to work so i wouldn't mess with it. i just unscrewed the case every single day, and hotwired the damn thing. he still doesn't know. Dakotaflyer's message above struck a chord with me. it seems the nanny state has been so successful in the UK that citizens are now encouraging the government to take it further. censoring the net to protect the kids (presumably so the computer can replace the TV as a babysitter) is something i've heard requested before, and it really..um..urinates me off. 
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Har Fairweather
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Join date: 24 Jan 2007
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05-15-2007 15:21
From: Walker Moore lol. children are very resourceful. in the late 80s, my Dad's computer had a lock and key on the front panel which stopped it booting, and he'd lock it before he went to work so i wouldn't mess with it. i just unscrewed the case every single day, and hotwired the damn thing. he still doesn't know. Dakotaflyer's message above struck a chord with me. it seems the nanny state has been so successful in the UK that citizens are now encouraging the government to take it further. censoring the net to protect the kids (presumably so the computer can replace the TV as a babysitter) is something i've heard requested before, and it really..um..urinates me off.  Agree. The nanny state mentality is a major threat IMO. I'm not responsible, oh no! You're not responsible, oh no! He, she or it is not responsible, oh no! So who is responsible? Oh, the government! That collection of bureaucrats, clerks, officious boobs, appointed and elected officials corrupt or otherwise and cynical to the Nth degree always - let's make THEM responsible for out own moral choices and our actions. Wonder what the archeologists will say, ten thousand years from now, as they sift through the ruins. In the meantime, hey, you and me, and other intelligent individuals who get it, WE are responsible - for ourselves, anyway. And our children. [Rant off]
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Kathryn Mahoney
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Join date: 4 Apr 2006
Posts: 68
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05-15-2007 17:06
From: Har Fairweather Wonder what the archeologists will say, ten thousand years from now, as they sift through the ruins. If there are archaeologists 10,000 years from now, we will obviously have done something right.
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Rusty Satyr
Meadow Mythfit
Join date: 19 Feb 2004
Posts: 610
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05-15-2007 17:13
And here I was going to reply with "we don't build ruins like we used to." Stone tablets have a longer shelf life than paper, which ages gracefully compared to magnetic media. 
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Zaphod Kotobide
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Join date: 19 Oct 2006
Posts: 2,087
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05-15-2007 18:01
*pulls out his old trusty vinyl LPs* From: Rusty Satyr And here I was going to reply with "we don't build ruins like we used to." Stone tablets have a longer shelf life than paper, which ages gracefully compared to magnetic media. 
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Har Fairweather
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Join date: 24 Jan 2007
Posts: 2,320
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05-15-2007 18:25
From: Kathryn Mahoney If there are archaeologists 10,000 years from now, we will obviously have done something right. Heh. That's what I'm shooting for...
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Feldspar Millgrove
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Join date: 16 Nov 2006
Posts: 372
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05-15-2007 19:59
From: Rusty Satyr I'm all for strict age verification, because I'm a bitter.
When *I* was a kid, if I wanted to get my hands on some porn, my choices were:
Dumpster diving
Bribing some old homeless guy to buy some for me
Kids now-a-days have it too darned easy. How are they going to learn anything if they don't have to work harder for it? Hey! You damn kids get off my parcel! And get a haircut!
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Lilbit Nervous
Registered User
Join date: 29 Aug 2006
Posts: 71
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05-15-2007 21:00
Really, and honestly, the "passport number ID" will only encourage kids to use adult grid, and discourage adults from playing second life. Why? Well, handing over one of the most sensitive documents to a company that specializes in "campaign deployment" is not smart, all adults know this, but, kids stealing their parents ID to "verify" themselves, why would they see the harm in it? It's very easy to tell if little Susie stole your credit card to play an online game, why? Suddenly odd charges pop up, look for the source, bing bang boom, we have a winner! Identity theft, however, little harder to track, unless you buy an online credit score every week, thereby actually lowering your credit score *yes kids, you are limited to the amount of times your credit score can be accessed without it affecting your credit score...*, and checking to see if new credit cards and what not are now attached to your name, so, instead of pay pal getting your credit card information, and you knowing who to go after if it's leaked, you give it, online, to a dodgy group, who's parent company specializes in American political deployment, go us? All for what? To play a game? I own 2 estates, Hathian and Vodou, Hathian houses the sim everyone loves to hate, The Crack Den, we are undoubtedly adult content, mostly because we keep the "texture blood" makers in funky fresh styles, and send their kids to college *yes...the violence thing, yay me*, but, apart from that, we've had over 20k traffic daily for over a year, and over 25k for 5 months + straight, we keep people interested in SL, and lose money on the place, we are content providers, without us, SL is nothing *I don't mean without CD, I mean without artists to create interesting and interactive content*, SL without RP sims/nightclubs/coffee shops/and gigantic shooting gallerys where you kill emus and blame the fact they cannot fly, is, literally, an empty shell, that would become addictive to none, it relys entirely on user created content, so yeah, other then being pregnant and hormonal IRL, I'm irritated about this whole "Insert SS# here" issue for all these reasons, and I've put them in bullet form!
-Less secure then CC validation -Kids have just as easy access to their parents ID cards as they do to their parents CCs -Untraceable if your information ends up in some dinks hands, and he "becomes you" -Dodgy American political deployment group taking it -Many content creators quitting over it. -More likely to have underagers with their parents ID willing to do it, then real 18+ers -Possibly the death of SL, with Sony's new SL like game coming out, REALLY bad timing!
But yeah, feel free to insult, flame, and call me a preschooler now, the forums are great for that!
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