"No drama please" ???
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Dylan Rickenbacker
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12-14-2006 04:45
Hi, one thing that's been puzzling me in SL from the start is the way the word "drama" is used here. For example, there's a web site called "SLDrama.com" which has nothing whatsoever to do with drama as I understand the word. And I keep finding places in Search that have the request "No drama please" in ther description. Can anyone enlighten me about the special connotation of "drama" in SL?
And while we're at it, what I've been looking for and haven't found yet is people who are really interested in drama, i.e. putting up stage productions in SL. Anyone?
Thanks - Dylan
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Joseph Worthington
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12-14-2006 04:57
"Drama" as it relates to SL and usually the interwebs as a whole, is indictive of unnecessary interpersonal relationship discussion and/or arguments. Serveral places would much rather not have partons and guests run off by some bickering couple, or a group of friends who want to use the location as a sounding board for their relationship woes. That is, if you have someone, ex-lover or signifigant other or whatever, who follows you everywhere for the sole purpose of trying to hash things out in a public, almost boisterious way, please don't bring it here. Also, if you're just out looking for a mate and tend to be those overly "dramatic" types, telling ever man or woman in sight how they make your heart swell and knees weak, please take it somewhere else. Cassanova's are often just as bad as the would be Dr. Phil guests. 
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Jack Belvedere
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12-14-2006 04:58
Hi Dylan, welcome. First of all, I would be real interested in helping out with some kind of stage production. I believe there's already a few theater groups in SL, which you might find under search. But message me in game sometime, if interested in starting up something new. Second, most people refer to drama in SL as, people being a pain in the butt. There seems to be a certain number of folks who can't enjoy themselves without having some kind of conflict, emotional breakdown, breakups, tragedies, and basically just anything you would see on the day time soap opera. That's not just an SL problem, I have seen it in other games too. I think there's just some kind of characters who can't log into a game and have fun without it, who knows. But it's real annoying to deal with it if you're a person who likes to play and relax. Ignore/mute does help. I think there should be a handful of islands or even a continent set aside for them, where they can have a good time driving each other crazy 
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Sabrina Hazlehurst
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12-14-2006 04:59
Drama, in a 'modern MMO society' sort of way could be closely described as soap opera drama - i.e. someone causing someone else problems by the way they act... making a scene, such like that.
As for your second question (availability of dramatics / play societies...) I dont have a clue unfortunately.
But theres sure to be some people out there who would be more than interested no doubt with such a wide variety of people out there, so if you cant find anything, start a group yourself and get it off the ground.
All you need is a passion for something, and you're half way to making it a reality.
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Morwen Bunin
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12-14-2006 05:01
Apart from drama as way of art or expression, I think it is often used to point out when things become turbulent or highly emotional.
Morwen.
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Sarg Bjornson
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12-14-2006 05:16
WHAT?? Dylan, I'm outraged!! How can you speak of drama when you have NO IDEA whatsoever of what lies behind it?? Honestly, you really HURT my feelings with this thread. Now I know I won't be able to sleep, you hear me? I won't be able to sleep for months because my heart is TRULY broken by your lack of maturity and offending words. For God's Sake, how can you be so heartless!!!! ... And that, basically, is drama 
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bilbo99 Emu
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12-14-2006 05:27
From: Dylan Rickenbacker while we're at it, what I've been looking for and haven't found yet is people who are really interested in drama, i.e. putting up stage productions in SL. Anyone?
Thanks - Dylan What an excellent idea!! Can I be the hero? Pretty please! You know, the guy who vanquishes the bad guy and sweeps the maiden off her feet .. um ... will have to be a short maiden mind! Does a search on groups come up with anything? How about thespian? You could start a group and post in the wanted forum mebbe. You needn't go full tilt into building a theatre to start with. Plenty around that would probably let you get a grounding. Nice open air one in Midnight City for instance. Time zones would be a real downer for any big collaborative ventures mind 
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Sarg Bjornson
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12-14-2006 05:31
I like the idea of a theatre, too. If you start something and need some free space contact me 
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Seola Sassoon
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12-14-2006 05:51
From: Sarg Bjornson WHAT?? Dylan, I'm outraged!! How can you speak of drama when you have NO IDEA whatsoever of what lies behind it?? Honestly, you really HURT my feelings with this thread. Now I know I won't be able to sleep, you hear me? I won't be able to sleep for months because my heart is TRULY broken by your lack of maturity and offending words. For God's Sake, how can you be so heartless!!!! ... And that, basically, is drama  How can you even say that? Are you crazy, you must be nuts in the head! I've been crying for hours now... god... I'm so depressed!!! Why would you do this to them? I got Dylan's back, and all you're doing is trying to create drama! *weeps* I'd tell on you to my boyfriend, but I don't have one because of you telling Sheena that Morbid that Rachel hooked up with me and I'm not even into girls! Thank you so very much for ruining my life! *cries* (Extension of drama between two people)
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Champie Jack
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12-14-2006 06:09
From: Dylan Rickenbacker Hi, one thing that's been puzzling me in SL from the start is the way the word "drama" is used here. For example, there's a web site called "SLDrama.com" which has nothing whatsoever to do with drama as I understand the word. And I keep finding places in Search that have the request "No drama please" in ther description. Can anyone enlighten me about the special connotation of "drama" in SL? And while we're at it, what I've been looking for and haven't found yet is people who are really interested in drama, i.e. putting up stage productions in SL. Anyone? Thanks - Dylan If english is your first language I have the feeling you are demonstrating a bit of your own drama skills - both the emotionally charged type and the theatrical type. I hope you find folks who share your interest in and passion for drama
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Strife Onizuka
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12-14-2006 06:22
Just as a reminder, the forums are generally a Drama Free zone. I recommend everyone review the forum guidelines (and sub-forum specific guidelines) every so often.
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Elgyfu Wishbringer
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12-14-2006 07:22
I have noticed that the more times a person declares they wish to avoid 'drama', the more likely they are to be the cause of it later on, hehe
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Dylan Rickenbacker
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12-14-2006 09:05
From: Champie Jack If english is your first language I have the feeling you are demonstrating a bit of your own drama skills - both the emotionally charged type and the theatrical type. As it happens, English is not my first language, so I'm curious ... what part of my original post strikes you as emotionally charged? Not taking offense here, just eager to learn. Dylan
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Maggie McArdle
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12-14-2006 10:02
i want to be susan lucci ^_^ or is that erica kane? i think theatre is a good idea also and if You do a search there is some sort of Playhouse in world. or check the forums. Welcome to SL Dylan 
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Stephanie Abernathy
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12-14-2006 10:03
reading this thread, it occurs to me that SL needs a "Jerry Springer SL show"! something to watch on our virtual TV's
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Artillo Fredericks
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12-14-2006 10:04
and don't forget to check out the punk rock band, NO DRAMA, playing live gigs occasionally in SL too! 
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Maggie McArdle
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12-14-2006 10:05
From: Stephanie Abernathy reading this thread, it occurs to me that SL needs a "Jerry Springer SL show"! something to watch on our virtual TV's
giggles i was just thinkin that EL OH EL ^_^ can i be the tranvastite male stripper who is in love with his dog groomer who dresses like His mom who is a prostitute?
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Regan Turas
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"Drama" short for "Drama queen"?
12-14-2006 10:38
I'm willing to bet the original reference to "drama" comes from the gay subculture term "drama queen."
As in "he's such a drama queen" or "don't be such a drama queen" when referring to someone who generates an emotional storm and splatters everyone in the immediate vicinity.
I'd never heard the term shortened to just "drama" before reading this post, but I knew immediately what was meant.
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Anwir Albion
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12-14-2006 13:45
From: Elgyfu Wishbringer I have noticed that the more times a person declares they wish to avoid 'drama', the more likely they are to be the cause of it later on, hehe Quoted for truth, if anyone has "No drama" in their profile avoid them like the plague, even more so if they insist on spelling it "dhrama." I'm still working on my theory that unnecessary H's somehow affect brain functioning.
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Wildefire Walcott
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12-14-2006 13:48
From: Anwir Albion Quoted for truth, if anyone has "No drama" in their profile avoid them like the plague, even more so if they insist on spelling it "dhrama."
I'm still working on my theory that unnecessary H's somehow affect brain functioning. Amen.
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Champie Jack
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12-14-2006 14:02
From: Dylan Rickenbacker As it happens, English is not my first language, so I'm curious ... what part of my original post strikes you as emotionally charged? Not taking offense here, just eager to learn. Dylan I meant it as a compliment. I actually thought your post was a very clever way to discuss your interest in theatrical drama. I also imagined that english was your first language because of your very well written post. Regarding "which part of my post was emotionally charged?"... None of it was emotionally charged. I was defining drama without quoting the dictionary directly. Perhaps I was too clever for my own good in this thread.
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Seola Sassoon
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12-14-2006 14:47
From: Regan Turas I'm willing to bet the original reference to "drama" comes from the gay subculture term "drama queen."
As in "he's such a drama queen" or "don't be such a drama queen" when referring to someone who generates an emotional storm and splatters everyone in the immediate vicinity.
I'd never heard the term shortened to just "drama" before reading this post, but I knew immediately what was meant. Actually you have it backwards. Drama queen was duped because drama's (in literature and art, mostly theatre, where drama is commonly overacted) traditionally included hundreds of over the top details that would engage the audience. Drama in SL has the same aspect and has nothing to do with gays and drama queens. In fact, there were drama queens long before gay people had anything to do with it.
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Maggie McArdle
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12-14-2006 14:54
From: Seola Sassoon Actually you have it backwards.
Drama queen was duped because drama's (in literature and art, mostly theatre, where drama is commonly overacted) traditionally included hundreds of over the top details that would engage the audience.
Drama in SL has the same aspect and has nothing to do with gays and drama queens. In fact, there were drama queens long before gay people had anything to do with it. was just lookin it up and yes Seola is right back in the olden days there were no microphones, so the actors had to "over act" so people in the cheap seats could hear them. as time went by these guesters becam more and more flamboyant so they could be seen as well.
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FD Spark
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12-14-2006 14:57
It strange at least in media the big hit these days is Reality Shows, Talk shows like Jerry Springer you would think they survive because of the drama or the abllity to spy upon someone else's live. With Second Life I guess there could be way of threatre of peeking into one's virtual life if there weren't so much zombified boredom, with splash of homophobes, egotistism and general seprateness, lack of connection with each other. There definitely needs to be bit more to do in my opinion then there is and better way to connect. Personally I checked out the blogs, the other forums and most I have seen on other people's blogs is complaining or sales pitches mixed with some interesting information but most of it seems like huge ghost and zombie low populated world out here in Second Life of with very few things to do other then make content and sell content and to spend and buy Lindens.
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Maggie McArdle
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12-14-2006 15:02
From: FD Spark It strange at least in media the big hit these days is Reality Shows, Talk shows like Jerry Springer you would think they survive because of the drama or the abllity to spy upon someone else's live. With Second Life I guess there could be way of threatre of peeking into one's virtual life if there weren't so much zombified boredom, with splash of homophobes, egotistism and general seprateness, lack of connection with each other. There definitely needs to be bit more to do in my opinion then there is and better way to connect. Personally I checked out the blogs, the other forums and most I have seen on other people's blogs is complaining or sales pitches mixed with some interesting information but most of it seems like huge ghost and zombie low populated world out here in Second Life of with very few things to do other then make content and sell content and to spend and buy Lindens. *blinks*
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