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Editing Layers in Emerald

Aebleskiver Thibedeau
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10-22-2009 00:09
OK, I got it that the report of unlimited layers in Emerald was premature, along with various other things...and I have the newest version that corrects some of that. But I still don't have the capacity to edit layers in Appearance at all and my pant legs are hanging out of my brand new riding boots. How come I can't shorten them in Emerald?
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Abigail Merlin
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10-22-2009 01:24
you need to turn off emeral clothing layers in the preference, this will restore the normal SL clothing layers.
Raudf Fox
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10-22-2009 04:57
Turning off the clothing layer protection thingy didn't work for me. I even changed it in the xml file so that the stupid thing would stay off and it still won't let me alter the layers.
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Amaranthim Talon
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10-22-2009 07:19
Aha! This might explain why a friend was having problems with gloves yesterday.. So to edit the glove-layer, she needs to go into preferences and turn OFF enable Emerald Clothing layers?
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Aebleskiver Thibedeau
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10-22-2009 10:42
The Clothing Layer Protection is not the same thing as Enable Clothing Layers. It's a shield so no one can look and see who made the clothes you're wearing. Turning it off did not give me the ability to edit layers.

And although I know I enabled Clothing Layer in one of the earlier Emeralds, I can't find it now in 1.23.5.950....

0.o

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Ceka Cianci
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10-22-2009 11:53
i'm able to change all my mod items in appearance ..i'm on the emerald 1.23.5.950.
i'll check and see if there is anything i have checked or unchecked.. ;)
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Raudf Fox
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10-22-2009 11:55
Figured out what was wrong for me. For some reason, there is yet another settings file in the Snowglobe's folder that is specifically for Emerald. Uninstalled, deleted it, as well as anything else related to Emerald. Then when I reinstalled, I was able to edit the layers after shutting off the clothing layer protection thingy.

*mutters* I hate egg hunts at times.
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foehn Breed
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10-22-2009 12:01
I'm having problems, crashing w/ shapes.
Either in Appearance mode or wear on a done one. I get a message, save, don't save, cancel, pick one and *crash*
I turned off the protection layers in Shields, didn't matter. I thought that might be it, but no.
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Ceka Cianci
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10-22-2009 12:01
I still have my Clothing layers protection on and can edit my mod stuff.
i don't see anything that would be checked or unchecked that would make a difference really..i'll keep looking..
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LittleMe Jewell
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10-22-2009 12:02
I am still using 1.23.5.904 -- in that version, the clothing layers option is on the Emerald tab of Preferences / Avatar tab, right side of the upper part and is labeled "Emerald Clothing Mode".
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10-22-2009 12:06
From: LittleMe Jewell
I am still using 1.23.5.904 -- in that version, the clothing layers option is on the Emerald tab of Preferences / Avatar tab, right side of the upper part and is labeled "Emerald Clothing Mode".

ya i'm not seeing that in that spot on this version..just the render avatar invisible now..
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10-22-2009 12:35
*giggling @ Clothing Protection*
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Aebleskiver Thibedeau
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10-22-2009 14:15
From: Ceka Cianci
ya i'm not seeing that in that spot on this version..just the render avatar invisible now..


No, me either...I think they must have "fixed" that.... 0.o
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10-22-2009 14:42
From: Ceka Cianci
ya i'm not seeing that in that spot on this version..just the render avatar invisible now..
They did say it had been put there in that version accidentally, so apparently they have now corrected it and removed it.
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10-22-2009 16:25
From: foehn Breed
I'm having problems, crashing w/ shapes.
Either in Appearance mode or wear on a done one. I get a message, save, don't save, cancel, pick one and *crash*
I turned off the protection layers in Shields, didn't matter. I thought that might be it, but no.


What foehn said. I had to log in with a different viewer to change my shape.
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Carmilla Vlodovic
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10-25-2009 06:15
Aha! This might explain why a friend was having problems with gloves yesterday.. So to edit the glove-layer, she needs to go into preferences and turn OFF enable Emerald Clothing layers?

ok i know i am being thick but where in the preferences is the option to turn off enable Emerald Clothing layers, i cant find it anywhere.
Briana Dawson
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10-25-2009 07:05
From: Aebleskiver Thibedeau
The Clothing Layer Protection is not the same thing as Enable Clothing Layers. It's a shield so no one can look and see who made the clothes you're wearing. Turning it off did not give me the ability to edit layers.

And although I know I enabled Clothing Layer in one of the earlier Emeralds, I can't find it now in 1.23.5.950....

0.o

(cue Twilight Zone music)


HUH?

People cannot inspect you to see where your clothes came from.

Last i knew, "Clothing Layer Protection" just baked all your clothing and skin layers together so that someone can't come along and GL Intercept your outfit, specifically your skin, since it would be baked with the clothes you are wearing instead of separate as per the normal behavior with the regular viewer.

Never have we been able to see the creator of a persons clothing layer.
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LittleMe Jewell
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10-25-2009 08:31
From: Carmilla Vlodovic
Aha! This might explain why a friend was having problems with gloves yesterday.. So to edit the glove-layer, she needs to go into preferences and turn OFF enable Emerald Clothing layers?

ok i know i am being thick but where in the preferences is the option to turn off enable Emerald Clothing layers, i cant find it anywhere.
If you are still using 1.23.4.904 -- in that version, the clothing layers option is on the Emerald tab of Preferences / Avatar tab, right side of the upper part and is labeled "Emerald Clothing Mode".

If you are on 1.23.5.950, the option has been removed because it really does not work yet anyway.
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10-25-2009 08:32
From: Briana Dawson
HUH?

People cannot inspect you to see where your clothes came from.

Last i knew, "Clothing Layer Protection" just baked all your clothing and skin layers together so that someone can't come along and GL Intercept your outfit, specifically your skin, since it would be baked with the clothes you are wearing instead of separate as per the normal behavior with the regular viewer.

Never have we been able to see the creator of a persons clothing layer.
Yes, this is what that option does. And it will not prevent 'inspect' of prims that you are wearing.
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Ralektra Breda
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10-25-2009 09:17
From: Amaranthim Talon
*giggling @ Clothing Protection*


can't figure out for the life of me why anyone would want to hide who made their clothes...unless its ripped, of course.
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Cito Karu
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10-25-2009 11:34
no gl intercept will still grab anything even if protected is turned on.
but it does stop nosy folk from seeing who made what.

you can always export then reimport and see if that works
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10-25-2009 12:34
From: Cito Karu
no gl intercept will still grab anything even if protected is turned on.
but it does stop nosy folk from seeing who made what.



O.K. Obviously there are more aspects of SL that i am ignorant about that than even i knew, so lets clarify this since 2 people have stated it is impossible now:


1- Since when can you find out through your viewer who the maker of clothing layers are on another avatar.

2- "Enhanced clothing layer protection" as far as i knew worked to protect skins and clothing layers by baking all the layers together so when broadcast in SL to other viewers it is as one layer of clothing+skin together, not separate layers for clothing and skin. I believe this was a Copy Bot protection since GL Intercept works differently intercepting files from the video cards OpenGL stuff as opposed to SL which bakes the layers.

Has #2 changed? LittleMe agrees with my current understanding.

I am still confuzzled with this idea that we can tell what clothing layers are made by whom on other people through some process of the viewer other than just recognizing the manufacturer (we are not talking about prims but clothing layers).
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LittleMe Jewell
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10-25-2009 13:48
This is what the Emerald site says about the feature:

Clothing layer protection
Some clients, such as Vlife, Cryolife, etc some with the ability to right click and copy individual textures such as your skin, shirt, clothes... this function prevents that.
Does not work against copybots "clone" feature, but does prevent them from saving texctures to hard drive..
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10-25-2009 13:54
From: foehn Breed
I'm having problems, crashing w/ shapes.
Either in Appearance mode or wear on a done one. I get a message, save, don't save, cancel, pick one and *crash*

Ditto.

Emerald Viewer 1.23.5 (950)

2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo iMac

OS X 10.6.1

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10-25-2009 15:23
From: Ralektra Breda
can't figure out for the life of me why anyone would want to hide who made their clothes...unless its ripped, of course.

i never turned mine on i think it comes as a default and it's an option to turn it off..i'm still trying to understand the two buttons just to the right of it before i do that..
cause from the way it sounds you could end up turning other options off as well..

i don't care who see's what i am wearing..i just don't want to turn other things off and have to dig around to see what they are that changed hehehehe
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