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What can be done about neighbor's structure crossing onto my property?

Zante Zapedzki
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03-30-2007 08:06
From: Dorra Debs
A friend of mine had a similar problem and never got a response from the neighbor. He imed them numerious times with no response. Soooooo..... he created several 10m x 10m prims and put them on the property line (being very careful of course not to go over). He then made a texture in photoshop that was glaring neon pink with the statement "Please move your build onto your property and I will remove this prim". The prim he created went right into the neighbors livingroom. It was fixed the next day. While it would have been better to get a response from iming him this fixed the problem.


Genius. : )
Nigel Durnan
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03-30-2007 08:50
I've found large prims with messages on them to be quite effective. however, if his walls are thick, as described somewhere above, he might not see it.

I honestly think trees are the answer. When he contacts you, play dumb, and say, "hey, I went to move the tree and discovered you're over my line. Would you mind moving your wall?"

then again, he may like the trees.
cHex Losangeles
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03-30-2007 09:34
From: Nigel Durnan
I've found large prims with messages on them to be quite effective. however, if his walls are thick, as described somewhere above, he might not see it.


I think the idea was to make your prims large enough that they could protrude several meters into the other guy's build. This opens one up to a counter-AR, but does have a reasonable chance of getting his attention if he's just caught up in his work. Since the OP has seen the guy several times, maybe he could make the prim, rez it, and keep moving it to whatever level the guy is working on at the moment.
Aislinn Jewell
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03-30-2007 09:40
I have a suggestion.......... sit down in your graphics program and write him a note.

saying this is where the property line is.
and big arrow

Then download this into SL.
Create a big billboard and put it at the edge of your property. He can't ignore it if its sitting halfway in his building now can he???

The other thing, and maybe I missed it........if you have auto return on won't it send back anything on your land that doesn't belong to you? So it would send back part of his building???
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Arksun Tone
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03-30-2007 10:53
From: Sheena Gelfand
Any objects that are on your land that are not yours can be returned to orginal owner. I found I lost several 100s of prims onetime and couldn't figure out how, well long story short I found a high prim necklace under my house and I returned it to owner and my prims were returned right away.

If he isn't answering your ims or responding by removing his items then I would simply right click and return his items to him.


Thats not entirely true, if the central point of the prim is still on the other persons land, it counts on their land prims, even though it may be poking over the line by a lot, so auto return wont work in those cases sadly.

But yes its good advice and wise to use the autoreturn feature, or disable object creation and/or entry onto your own land to stop other peoples junk getting left there :)

*edit* i forgot there was a 2nd page and someone already raised this point. lol. oops. sorry
Rock Ryder
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03-30-2007 12:39
From: Sheena Gelfand
Any objects that are on your land that are not yours can be returned to orginal owner. I found I lost several 100s of prims onetime and couldn't figure out how, well long story short I found a high prim necklace under my house and I returned it to owner and my prims were returned right away.

If he isn't answering your ims or responding by removing his items then I would simply right click and return his items to him.


What happens if a single prim is 90% on his side of the border, and 10% on the wrong side of the border. Does the entire prim get returned to him? And if that prim is part of a linked set, maybe as large as an entire house, what happens then?

Rock
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03-30-2007 12:59
If it's a single prim with the central point on your neighbours side, it cannot be returned.
Even worse though, if it's a linked set, as long as the root prim is on their side it cannot be returned. That leads to a lot of people leaving their 30+m wave machines on other peoples land near where I am.
Alicia Sautereau
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03-30-2007 16:05
had almost the same issue and is still going

an 1024 plot next to my land was purchased and being used as a sandbox on day 1, land not secured or anything else.
owner hasn`t shown up in nearly 2 weeks after being prolly banned for something but some idiot left his car on that propperty crossing with my land

asked both of the landowner to secure their land with atleast auto return at 1minute and the car owner to remove his junk supplied with an lm

filed a ar wich seems to be resolved pritty quick with no actions taken.
as objects could enter and the car was floating in the air, i raised my land with a floor and continued the floor to make the neighbour`s land 1 giant grass floor wich hides their unfinished building and the yellow car.

land owner got another IM on how to setup auto return to remove my prims and get rid of the car with a reply to LL of the "solved" report explaining them what i did and that the owner was informed on how to fix as it doesn`t seems worth their time anymore and have to fix it myself

IF LL can`t hold land owners responsible for building outside their boundries and warning them with the removal of the items in question, alot more people will be called griefers.

I have on 2 occasions adjusted those 45m pine tree`s after some one bought land contacted me that they were crossing the border and explained that it was cause there was no owner and i`m friends with them now, why can`t some people just act normal and check their shit and adjust where needed???
Grace McConachie
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03-31-2007 18:29
I've been having a similar issue with a neighbor since October 2006. I asked him repeatedly to move the deck of his house which is intruding right into my living room and kitchen. I reported him twice to Linden and they have done nothing about it. They don't even do you the courtesy of a personal reply to explain *why* they won't do anything about it.

Every time I see it I"m annoyed, but there's nothing I can do. The suggestions made in this thread wouldn't work because it's only a deck, not an inhabited part of his house, so putting my own prims there wouldn't phase him a bit. After all, the side of my *house* bisects his deck and he is still not civil enough to move it off my land.

I wish you luck, OP, but I wouldn't count on an AR doing you any good whatsoever.
Cocoanut Koala
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03-31-2007 19:09
Welp, I had a neighbor couple of days ago whose house was over the line and into my yard, past my wall (which is clear on their side).

I IM'd the neighbor and they were sorry and said they didn't realize it, and they would scoot the house over right away, which they did.

Just thought I'd toss that little story out! Cause there are bunches of stories like that you never hear about, lol.

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Winter Phoenix
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03-31-2007 19:17
From: Grace McConachie
I've been having a similar issue with a neighbor since October 2006. I asked him repeatedly to move the deck of his house which is intruding right into my living room and kitchen. I reported him twice to Linden and they have done nothing about it. They don't even do you the courtesy of a personal reply to explain *why* they won't do anything about it.

Have you called LL personally? Id be talking to some live person at Linden labs and asking them exactly why this is being allowed to continue. Ive had a couple of issues that needed to be addressed through a phonecall. They are quite courteous on the phone, and even efficient.
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03-31-2007 19:23
From: Cocoanut Koala


I IM'd the neighbor and they were sorry and said they didn't realize it, and they would scoot the house over right away, which they did.


It makes me wonder sometimes how many people aren't aware of or don't use the 'View Propertly Lines' option. I always turn this on when I'm doing any building on my land.
Musicteacher Rampal
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03-31-2007 19:29
Used to be a time, not too long ago, when you could search for Lindens in game and see if any were online or not. If you could find a Linden online, many times they would come to your land, see the offending prims, and remove them...too bad the "upgrade" to the search feature doesn't allow you to see if lindens are online or not without checking the profile of EVERY SINGLE ONE!
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03-31-2007 19:45
Used to be easy to track down a Linden when things were falling apart. Search Linden and see who was lit up. Now they close the curtains and turn off the lights in the house. Kinda like those folks who dont want the trick or treaters coming to the front door.
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04-01-2007 13:27
From: Winter Phoenix
Used to be easy to track down a Linden when things were falling apart. Search Linden and see who was lit up. Now they close the curtains and turn off the lights in the house. Kinda like those folks who dont want the trick or treaters coming to the front door.


I'm guessing they got out of sight because they started getting somany in-world complaints/requests/etc. that their heads hurt and their computers crashed...
Jopsy Pendragon
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04-01-2007 13:43
An alternate to a suggestion seen above:

parcel lines on.
show property owners.

create an unhappy face with prims...
place it just above where the overlap into your parcel is.

Snap a pic, slap it on a big 10x10 prim facing his parcel.

Should get the point across even if your neighbor is a non-English speaker.

If/when they correct the problem, blow away the poster prim,
change the unhappy face to a happy face and leave it near your
parcel boundary facing your neighbor. =)

And, if that doesn't work after, try the request help and report an "Easment violation: Neighbor has prims overlapping my parcel and has been unresponsive to requests to relocate/remove them for days."
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04-01-2007 14:29
From: Jopsy Pendragon
create an unhappy face with prims...
place it just above where the overlap into your parcel is.

Snap a pic, slap it on a big 10x10 prim facing his parcel.

Should get the point across even if your neighbor is a non-English speaker.


This is a good suggestion. Considering that the majority of SL users are now outside the U.S., I suspect that there are a number of residents who are not fluent in English. Whether or not this is the case here, we probably all need to be thinking about ways we can communicate our needs to our non-English speaking neighbors without having to resort to abuse reports that probably won't be read anyway.

I would also suggest, when communicating a complaint to someone whose English language skills are in question, we use complete sentences and watch our grammar and spelling so that they can use one of the free translator programs if needed. I'm guessing that things like "hi how r u- i need u 2 move ur house off my land pls", which is barely comprehensible to me, will be well understood by non-native English speakers.
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04-01-2007 14:58
From: Har Fairweather
I'm guessing they got out of sight because they started getting somany in-world complaints/requests/etc. that their heads hurt and their computers crashed...


But with the greatest respect to them, that is what they get paid to do both from us the small customer to the biggest customer, if i have a complaint with my local store i go to the customer service desk and try and get a resolution i dont expect the store assistants to hide :)
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Lhorentso Nurmi
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04-01-2007 15:11
I'm having a similar issue with someone who has a script generating rainbow coloured squares that go through my building.

I reported it twice and got emails back stating that the issue has been resolved. Copy and paste emails, that is. Of course the issue was never resolved.

At some point LL will have to do something about their extremely poor customer service or risk losing business. I appreciate that their startegy is hands-off, but they can't expect people to spend money and have to put upo with anarchy. I for one have scaled down my ambitions because of issues like this.
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