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Jackson Rickenbacker
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03-08-2007 21:30
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With the recent rattle about ageplay, I thought we should examine Furry affairs

Human on Furry = Beastiality
Furry on Furry = Discovery Channel
Furry humping grandma's leg = COMEDY


Question is will this recent policy change trickle into the Furry Community too, and what will the defining lines be?
Gaybot Foxley
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03-08-2007 21:37
lol Another controversial thread. Resident Answers has never been so entertaining. I don't consider a human avatar engaging in sexual relations with a furry avatar to be beastiality. In reality, both entities controlling the avatars are either humans or advanced artificial lifeforms. (Perhaps even aliens) No animals were harmed in the making of this movie. I don't think the depiction of beastiality is illegal on the internet; if it is, it's probably not heavily enforced. There have been far more threads in the forums with the general complaint about "Ageplay" and "Rape" than so called "beastiality". Combine that with universal, negative, media attention and you have yourself an amendment to the Community Standards.
Ann Launay
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03-08-2007 21:41
From: Jackson Rickenbacker


Human on Furry = Beastiality


Uh, no...furries aren't actually animals, ergo, no bestiality.
tristan Eliot
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03-08-2007 21:44
From: Ann Launay
Uh, no...furries aren't actually animals, ergo, no bestiality.


Shhhh... Don't tell them i'm not really a cat! Oh noes! :D
Colette Meiji
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03-08-2007 22:05
furries are people too.

really people are too quick to group furries into the sexual kink stuff

The only real diffrences betweeb furry AV sex and human AV sex seems to be terminology and sometimes the use of a animal shaped penis.

And the fur, of course.
Usagi Musashi
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03-08-2007 22:28
From: tristan Eliot
Shhhh... Don't tell them i'm not really a cat! Oh noes! :D



HAhhah :p
Ronin Arnaz
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03-08-2007 23:45
From: Ann Launay
Uh, no...ageplayers aren't actually children, ergo, no child abuse.


Fixed.
Jackson Rickenbacker
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03-09-2007 00:26
NO Ronin, dont even replace peoples quotes with your own ideals.

Ageplay in the sense its known in SL is nothing more than simulated child sex, its disgusting, rude and psychologically questionable. I doubt any child in RL should be allowed near a person that thinks its ok to simulate child sex.
Ronin Arnaz
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03-09-2007 00:48
From: Jackson Rickenbacker
Yiffing in the sense its known in SL is nothing more than simulated animal sex, its disgusting, rude and psychologically questionable. I doubt any animal in RL should be allowed near a person that thinks its ok to simulate animal sex.


Fixed. Again.

I'm not putting words into mouths. The fact is that the way you describe ageplayers works just as well for furries. Please, allow me to explain why.

Look, in the real world, sex with both children and animals is taboo, illegal, and almost universally considered obscene. Okay, with me? Any disagreements? No? Good.

Now, you're actively opposed to virtual child sex. That's okay, I see your point. That's fine. But then you (And many others on this forum) turn right around and defend simulated sex with animals.

So, are you saying that sex with animals is okay? Let me tell you, animal sexual abuse is NOT a laughing matter. See a cat in pain, blood seeping from its rear end, dying from internal injuries, and we'll talk.

I'm not saying either one is okay. But we can't just ban one illegal, obscene act, while we defend the rest of them. That's the very essence of corruption.

So, until someone can rationally explain why simulated animal abuse is okay, and simulated child abuse isn't, then please, step off the high horse.
Zi Ree
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03-09-2007 01:13
Please mind the difference:

Children = actual living real world creatures, young human people, abuse possible in RL
Furries = Ficticional characters, animal-like creatures with human properties, not animals, no abuse possible

So you can't compare one to the other in any way.
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Tegg Bode
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03-09-2007 01:19
Coo we have people attacking & trying to sacrifice others interests to save their own

Can anyone tell me if Fridge molesting a Daffodil is still ok assuming both are played by adults?
Winter Ventura
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03-09-2007 01:20
From: Zi Ree
Please mind the difference:

Children = actual living real world creatures, young human people, abuse possible in RL
Furries = Ficticional characters, animal-like creatures with human properties, not animals, no abuse possible

So you can't compare one to the other in any way.


"Children" in SL = Adults over the age of 18.. humans, roleplaying fictional characters. Not Children.. No Child abuse possible

"Furries" in SL = Adults over the age of 18.. humans, roleplaying fictional characters. Not Animals.. No Animal abuse possible
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Wilhelm Neumann
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03-09-2007 01:21
From: Zi Ree
Please mind the difference:


Furries = Ficticional characters, animal-like creatures with human properties, not animals, no abuse possible

So you can't compare one to the other in any way.


there are no foxes, pigs, cows and cats in the real world?
Solar Legion
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03-09-2007 01:22
From: Wilhelm Neumann
there are no foxes, pigs, cows and cats in the real world?


There are none that resemble in any way a Human Being. Most furries play an anthromorphic character - you know, Human like!
Wilhelm Neumann
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03-09-2007 01:27
ah and i see there are people who play babies with the vocabularies of an adult too what's the difference they are playing they aren't it

also never watched what furries do the only "furry" i have ever been is a dragon which is a story book character never tried the fox thing but there are many foxes that walk on all 4 legs in second life run by humans at a computer, just like the babies who have humungous vocabularies

I dunno but most 3 year olds and toddlers don't tend to utter what some of the "children" I have seen running around in second life do

call me crazy but.. they seem to be roleplaying but falling out of character often

OH yeah i have a zebra as well that walks on all 4 legs I dont say much when i run around and play him which is rare he likes fruit though..
Feras Nolan
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03-09-2007 01:28
From: Jackson Rickenbacker
Furry on Furry = Discovery Channel


Furry on Furry is more something for Cartoon Network
Talarus Luan
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03-09-2007 01:32
From: Ronin Arnaz
Fixed. Again.

I'm not putting words into mouths. The fact is that the way you describe ageplayers works just as well for furries. Please, allow me to explain why.

Look, in the real world, sex with both children and animals is taboo, illegal, and almost universally considered obscene. Okay, with me? Any disagreements? No? Good.

Now, you're actively opposed to virtual child sex. That's okay, I see your point. That's fine. But then you (And many others on this forum) turn right around and defend simulated sex with animals.

So, are you saying that sex with animals is okay? Let me tell you, animal sexual abuse is NOT a laughing matter. See a cat in pain, blood seeping from its rear end, dying from internal injuries, and we'll talk.

I'm not saying either one is okay. But we can't just ban one illegal, obscene act, while we defend the rest of them. That's the very essence of corruption.

So, until someone can rationally explain why simulated animal abuse is okay, and simulated child abuse isn't, then please, step off the high horse.


First, as someone else so aptly put it in another thread on this topic a while back, furries aren't having sex with animals, they are having sex with EACH OTHER!

Second, humans are animals, too.

Third, as a Dragon, I have no desire to hump prey.

Fourth, SL is a virtual world; no animals (besides the hairless monkeys) participate, or can be harmed by it.

Fifth, illegal is not the same thing as immoral, nor is it necessarily unethical.

Sixth, not all sex with animals is abuse. Technically, if the animal chooses of its own free will to engage in sex with another not of its species (how one defines "free will" in the context of animal sentience is left as an exercise for the reader), it can't be considered "abuse", especially if the animal is sexually mature; it's just consensual.

Lastly, I am rambling on silly philosophical baloney and need to go to sleep. :(
Tristin Mikazuki
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03-09-2007 01:40
Haveing a furry Av...
My AV looks as much like me as your human looks like you...
Why dont you let people just enjoy the game instead of being a natzi?
If ya dont like furries tought the happen to be the best builders and scripter in SL go back to WOW or AW and keep SL free of bigots and haters and racists k?
Ronin Arnaz
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03-09-2007 01:41
Okay, that's an argument I can live with. Yiffing != representation of animal abuse, because furries are typically anthropomorphized animals, and do not actually exist (i.e. Talking rabbits, crafty coyotes, lasagna-eating cats, etc.)

But what about other fantasy beings engaged in virtual sex? Fairies, sprites, gnomes, hobbits, anthropomorphic dolls, etc. Heck, what about plain ol' tinies, or small avatars for that matter?
Ronin Arnaz
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03-09-2007 01:45
From: Talarus Luan

Fifth, illegal is not the same thing as immoral, nor is it necessarily unethical.

Sixth, not all sex with animals is abuse. Technically, if the animal chooses of its own free will to engage in sex with another not of its species (how one defines "free will" in the context of animal sentience is left as an exercise for the reader), it can't be considered "abuse", especially if the animal is sexually mature; it's just consensual.


Somehow, I think there are a slew of legislators, judges, animal rights activists, and members of the general public that would disagree with you.

But that's neither here nor there.
Stephen Zenith
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03-09-2007 01:45
To be honest, it will only take a few complaints and furry sex will be the next ageplay. Or Gor. Or BDSM. Or "escorts". Or gambling. Or <insert controversial behaviour of choice>

If people are going to get anywhere with this issue, those of us who believe that consenting adults should be free to do whatever we wish with other consenting adults are going to have to stick together.

It's unfortunate that LL took this action at the behest of a well-known agitator, but for the ageplay crowd to start lashing out at Furries and other groups who have not (yet) been banned will not help their cause.
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03-09-2007 01:52
From: Ronin Arnaz
Somehow, I think there are a slew of legislators, judges, animal rights activists, and members of the general public that would disagree with you.

But that's neither here nor there.


..and even that doesn't change the facts.

Seventh, the majority are not always right.
Ronin Arnaz
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03-09-2007 01:56
From: Stephen Zenith
To be honest, it will only take a few complaints and furry sex will be the next ageplay. Or Gor. Or BDSM. Or "escorts". Or gambling. Or <insert controversial behaviour of choice>

If people are going to get anywhere with this issue, those of us who believe that consenting adults should be free to do whatever we wish with other consenting adults are going to have to stick together.

It's unfortunate that LL took this action at the behest of a well-known agitator, but for the ageplay crowd to start lashing out at Furries and other groups who have not (yet) been banned will not help their cause.


That's just it. These behaviors, for better or worse, have defined Second Life. Let's face it, we are, for the most part, a group of deviants.

But you know what? That's okay. That's the purpose of a virtual world. All of us, for once, can be true selves. No limits. No pregnancy, HIV, gunshot wounds, no rape or long-lasting trauma.

Second Life was once a place where the sky was the limit. But this decision changes that. There are now murky moral guidelines beyond "Don't harass people."

You might be fine with it. Hey, you don't ageplay anyway, why do you care? Well, I can almost guarantee that you do something in SL that others find seriously offensive, and is opposed by strong legal or moral precedents.

We all need to understand that this is not just a threat to a small group of perverts. This is a threat to Second Life as we know it.

Lines need to be drawn, with clear rationalizations in mind. If we start basing community standards on mere emotional arguments ("BLARG! CHILDREN!";) then the grid will become as oppressive as the real world.
Ronin Arnaz
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03-09-2007 01:59
From: Talarus Luan

Seventh, the majority are not always right.


No. Then again, they don't have to be.
Tod69 Talamasca
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03-09-2007 02:11
YAY! Conservative Christian values have come to SL!!! :eek:

Lets all ban:

Furry Sex: Bestiality

Gorean Sex: Men control the women, who have no say in the matter, which sounds ALOT like ISLAM, which jest aint American which means its not allowed according to the bible.

Furry on Gorean Sex!! Nuff Said

Goth Sex: Cuz they're not bible fearing folk!!!

Goth Gorean Fury Sex, because their Islamic Bestial non-bible fearing people

Playing Second Life!!! Because you are spending your time in front of "Graven Images" and not reading your bible & spending your time in Church. :eek:


*Note: All is said in Sarcasm. Once you start banning willy nilly, where does it stop? Who has any right (other than Morality) to decide? As they say "If you cant stand the heat, get outta the kitchen"
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