shopping issue

I am about ready to never buy a single thing from another player because one there items that I really liked infact I bought two items when I started it was 2 medation chairs each were over 750L.
They no longer work, the owners name isn't there. Its no mod, no copy.
Then today I found some great shoes the photo looked great bought them for 175 but once I put them on they didn't look like the photo.
This isn't first time this has happen to me.
Anyone else experiencing this? I even rebaked textures nothing.
Is it something I am doing wrong or is it just that I bought bad prim textured products?

Try rezzing the chair in-world and then look for the maker's name in the properties of the item. You can't always read the full properties of a no-mod item when it is in your inventory.

Shoes are highly dependant on textuers for the appearance. SL is having problems loading textures properly. If a shoe texture does not load completely, it can look really bad, even though the product itself is perfectly undamaged.

Thanks for responding. I am not sure what the issue is thhe chairs won't rez at all tried a couple times. I got few other items in same situation.
I did contact the owner of the shoes.
I have been learning about making things and I know how textures can sometimes go awry.
It just bit frusterating. I just should save my Lindens and use them for uploading my own content.

Well, that sounds frustrating. What is the exact name of the chair, and what did it look like? Someone else may have the same chair, and can check their copy for the maker info, to help you. I know I have one chair with the name "meditation chair", that is a Japanese-style chair with curved red or black arms (can't recall for sure, and am not in-world right now), and a pillow at the back up against the seat, with a Japanese-style print on it. if you clicked above the seat, in an area in front of the cushion, you hovered above the chair in a nice full-lotus meditation animation. Is that the one you have?

It wasn't that fancy I had two I don't remember where I got it but I do have snap shots of at least one chair but the green one not sure.

Drop a copy of that snapshot, showing the chair, into a notecard with a description of the chair and that you need to find the maker, and drop that norecard on my profile in-world. A search for Ceera Murakami will find my profile easily (There's only two Ceera's in SL the last time I looked, and Ceera Murakami and Ceera Kitsune are both me.) I do a lot of shopping. There is a good chance I've seen your chair before, and that I may recall where I saw it.

If you can, post a picture of it in this thread as well. Someone in the forums may recognize it. Maybe even the person who made it!

The issues with the chairs sound a lot like a problem with SL rather than the chairs themselves. Can you find out the Creator just by right clicking them in your inventory and choose Properties? Are you trying to rez them in an particularly laggy area?

Regarding the shoes, shopping for clothes and accessories in SL is just the same as in RL - usually they won't look like they do in the photo, because the photo shows someone who's probably a model and has spent hours rearranging their avatar specifically to look good in those items in that photo.

About the shoes : have you checked that your feet are the right size ? Prim shoes usually require a specific foot size to fit properly. It's usually size 0 for females, and I think size 20 for males. This information should be in a notecard included with the shoes.

I think it is a problem with SL. I was helping a person today with his house, and he could not drag the box containing the house onto his land.

Despite that he had done so before, and despite that I could stand there and do it.

We must have spent ten minutes with him trying to get that box onto his land, and he coudn't. I gave him a new copy of the box, and he couldn't get that to rez, either (assuming he was trying with the right box).

Finally he managed to find the rez-faux box that had been in the original box, and that rezzed. But the boxes never would.

So I think there is something wrong with the game right now.

coco

yeah maybe the problem was it was size 0 and I am guy didn't think of that. How do you know size 20 from 0? I forgot I had my duck feet on but it didn't make much difference. LOL
I even have objects with no mod, no copy with no name and I can't rez the item. Not even sure what it was One object does have name its called whirlwind no owner, no copy, no mod, no transfer and I have no clue how I got it but I have 2 items.
I got the two chairs in my picks section under 2nd lost chair and who made this.
It wasn't the best chair I ever seen but it was my first medation chairs.
This problem has been happening for about three weeks for me.
First two weeks when I ran into clothing items that didn't work I thought it was me and that I didn't know about rebaking textures but sometimes textures just act strange.
About the shoes I reduced my foot size and I can see the shoes but they aren't black like the image they are white with black parts to them and shoe laces. Oh well I am taking snap shots to figure out how to make my own using the base texture LOL
P.S. It has no name but discription on the chairs but I have no clue how to send snap shots in note cards I guess I can look

1: Make sure the snapshot is full perms - OK to copy, mod or transfer.
2: Drag the snapshot from inventory onto the notecard. This embeds a copy in the notecard, as a clickable link.

That sounds suspiciously like the "Missing Texture" texture.

thanks sent them. I wish I new what the other no name or unowned objects were from that I had.

Anyway I found several files with no names of creators now.
The person I bought the shoes from basically said I only make shoes for women.
So any new guy on the block who sees her tenisshoes and buys them is screwed.
Oh well it seems like most things are geared towards female avatars.
I had absolutely no clue that male feet even at smallest were different size then women's shoe.
The image of shoe when colors showed up literally look backwards.
I am not sure if its because of my foot size or the person who sold it just doesn't care.
I won't go back there nor recommend any of my friends to that store. Wish there was way to give bad ratings to store owners for selling freebies or badly textured images.
p.s If I wrote something about bad shopping experience with shop in my blog with owner of store name would I get into trouble?

You don't know if it's the creator's mistake or if it's an SL problem lots of people are having.

Someone has already told you that what you described sounds like the "missing image" texture problem that everyone in SL is dealing with.

And you bought women's shoes by mistake from someone who can't give you a new pair because she doesn't make men's shoes.

So what exactly is the shop owner's fault that would make her deserve a negative rating?

it just the shoe the texture she did is gone and doesn't work I paid 175 for shoe that is backwards.
I figure if I ever get to figure out templates I will make the shoe for myself not to sell it.
I don't plan on selling anything I don't make myself if I ever sell anything.
The thing is I run into tons of people who own shops who sell really awful products and aren't very nice and some even sell freebies as their own. I would never do that for a linden. But I figure in last month I have went through over 35k in lindens and some of the stuff wasn't worth it. Their been few good business people who made things I have met and some downright pretty nasty one's out there too who have no problem selling pretty awful stuff.

I had no clue that the shoe size was different.
Either way its the point if I spend over 185 us dollars supporting local business in last 2 months and majority of stuff doesn't work or doesn't look right it makes me not want to buy anything.
I really believe there should be way to know if the designer or business is worth the lindens to those who are new and learning especially if they are selling products that don't work, complecated to use.
I read that size zero is standard shoe size for all av's in the forum but why would I know this not to be true until after I lost money on item that doesn't look like the image.
Either way to those who care and new buyer beware whatever you buy because you have no clue whether or not the item will even look like what you see in image advertised or even if the item was orginally a freebie that someone raised the price and sold for 175 that wasn't made by them orginally. I don't know if its creator or sl but its lot of money to invest either way if there nothing but bugs or people being nasty. She didn't even say hey I am sorry basically she said its your problem I got your money I don't make men's shoes you're sol by her actions.
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You don't know if it's the creator's mistake or if it's an SL problem lots of people are having.

Someone has already told you that what you described sounds like the "missing image" texture problem that everyone in SL is dealing with.

And you bought women's shoes by mistake from someone who can't give you a new pair because she doesn't make men's shoes.

So what exactly is the shop owner's fault that would make her deserve a negative rating?

1. It's not hard to change your footsize...just change it to zero.
2. It's true that some clothing articles or other attachments (shoes, etc.) don't look as advertised. It's trial and error. I would suggest - if you're interested in fashion - that you join some of the blogs that blog about the best designers. Those may help you see what's really worth it and what isn't. I rarely buy anything that isn't blogged about by those I trust first.
3. Clothing and attachments are not "investments" - they are articles of clothing or fashion adornments. And you didn't "lose" money, but you may have wasted some Lindens on the things that weren't worth it. Research is key.

Do your homework, hon.

I'm a SL resident since November 10, 2006. Did not spend as much as you did, but I bought quite a lot of things and so far I have to regret even a single buy.

There are means for you to have a good shopping experience. Check out the following websites:

http://www.secondstyle.com/
http://www.lindenlifestyles.com/

Then the places where I do dhop often (in random order)

Lassitude & Ennui
ETD
OPIUM
Simtropia
Musashi-Do
Naughty Designs
Szentasha Fashions
GuRL6

I think FD's point may have been that he bought a pair of shoes for his male avatar that the store did not make clear were designed for female avatars.

And the advice here about where to go is good but I think what FD is talking about is still problematic. It would be terribly sad if good new designers could not get noticed or recognised because every user was having a negative experience with other new designers and thus going to the only existing recognised ones. I don't know if Second Style scout new designers but unless they have a staff bigger than Linden Labs they can't possibly catch them all. (And Second Style adverts have the same caveat as vendor panels, but squared: those avatars have been worked on for hours, just to look good in those specific outfits, and some of them are wearing items - such as skins - that aren't even publically available.)

Well, it's not that I want to easily dismiss FD Spark issues as "rants of the day". Here SL is just like RL. What you see on a sign or advert may not be what you get.

About SL fashion magazines and sites, well... I'm new here, so I may suffer from naiveness, but I spent a good deal of time reading Second Style magazine, current and back issues, SL fashion and all around blogs, user comments and such. That helped me a lot, I must say.

Looking around in new and old archives I noticed that from time to time new people on the fashion scene are being reviewed and get some exposure... Maybe not all of them...

Anyway my point is that doing some research before visiting a shop may yeld good results and make someones shopping experience a lot better.

Then on the vendors side there should be a professional attitude. The ones I have mentioned have never disappointed me and I had some friends of mine shop there. For sure there are other names worth to be on my list, but hey...

Give me time and, more important, money to spend

Well, that's fair enough. But remember that SL is - in many ways - sold on its freedom to create, and to become involved in creating. When people have experiences like this, which leads to them not trusting stores and creators in world, that freedom is put at risk, or at least made unscalable. It doesn't just apply to clothing - it applied to houses, scripts, and everything else as well.

Part of the problem I am dealing with is one finding places, information especially in game or and information about the places,creators,etc.
Then there always what agenda these magazine have in promoting specific product?
Have they used the product? Or were they paid to promote the product and never used it?
I have more time then most people do but even I don't have 24 hours to search every single thing about certain designer or if the shop owner is even the designer in the first place.
Sometimes I have bought items talk to shop owner only to find out the don't even know how to do textures or own the product they are selling and I don't always have the time to do that.
There so much to know just about SL and creators, artist in it I don't have time to do it all or even support content creators who are new and struggling which I would prefer but I like to know before hand that they are just like me before I buy product that wasn't what I expected.
The more established content makers how do I even know they exist if they aren't in search or classified? And they don't need to advertise once they get certain amount of clientel or need my lindens in first place.

You're making this too hard Find a couple blogs (several listed here) and read about things before you buy. It's just like real life in that way.