what do I spend this L on?
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Escaped Loon
Registered User
Join date: 30 Mar 2007
Posts: 47
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04-04-2007 07:38
I stumbled around SL for about a week, picked at some money trees and sat hours in some chairs. And in some strange way I found it entertaining, but what do i do now?
I've wasted a couple thousand L on guns when I've been discovering that was kind of wasteful since there's a bunch for free. I'm not sure excatly what weapons are for in this game yet except to get yourself reprimanded/threatened by elders for having one out. I am slowing discovering that digital dick is good but guns are a no no.
Was there ever a time that this world was violent or has it always been pro-porn and anti-violence? I dont have much interest in a virtual penis or man-boobs, but a bit of random violence either as a spectator or participant would be a welcomed break from camping casino chairs and stark naked male toons with hardons running around the campers. (Its funny but after about 2 minutes the joke gets old).
I found some footprints I wanted to buy, but at 200L is it even worth it? I mean will I just waste the L on them to turn around and find them free? Aside from buying property and porn which doesnt interest me, is it really worth buying anything in this game or can it all just be eventually found for free?
So I guess my question really is, what besides porn and porperty is valuable/worth buying in this game?
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Ike Fairweather
Off Tha Chain
Join date: 1 Feb 2007
Posts: 387
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04-04-2007 07:41
From: Escaped Loon I stumbled around SL for about a week, picked at some money trees and sat hours in some chairs. And in some strange way I found it entertaining, but what do i do now?
I've wasted a couple thousand L on guns when I've been discovering that was kind of wasteful since there's a bunch for free. I'm not sure excatly what weapons are for in this game yet except to get yourself reprimanded/threatened by elders for having one out. I am slowing discovering that digital dick is good but guns are a no no.
Was there ever a time that this world was violent or has it always been pro-porn and anti-violence? I dont have much interest in a virtual penis or man-boobs, but a bit of random violence either as a spectator or participant would be a welcomed break from camping casino chairs and stark naked male toons with hardons running around the campers. (Its funny but after about 2 minutes the joke gets old).
I found some footprints I wanted to buy, but at 200L is it even worth it? I mean will I just waste the L on them to turn around and find them free? Aside from buying property and porn which doesnt interest me, is it really worth buying anything in this game or can it all just be eventually found for free?
So I guess my question really is, what besides porn and porperty is valuable/worth buying in this game? Clothes and jewelry is nice. But unless you own property to build on, it gets boring.
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Tyci Kenzo
K2 Owner and Designer
Join date: 8 Dec 2005
Posts: 285
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04-04-2007 07:50
it really depends on why you started to play sl in the first place
there are areas you can fight depending on your style
im not sure of places to gun fight as that is not my thing
but my husband sword fights and uses his bow and such in specific sims we visit
you need to figure out exactly what you want to do in this game and then we can maybe send you in the right direction
there are clubs to dance and socialize at games to play lots of places to explore clothes..shoes...skins...hair...homes..land...furnishing all sorts of things you can spend money on it really just depends what you want to do
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Daisy Rimbaud
Registered User
Join date: 12 Oct 2006
Posts: 764
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04-04-2007 07:50
You'll soon find that the quality of any item you can get for free is almost always way below that of items that you pay real L$ for.
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Escaped Loon
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Join date: 30 Mar 2007
Posts: 47
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04-04-2007 07:55
From: Ike Fairweather Clothes and jewelry is nice. But unless you own property to build on, it gets boring. Yes I was afraid you'd say this. But on a lighter note the live DJs are keeping me around. Now if only the next noob who wants kill me for being ugly would just buy a combat HUD and a gun before sending there stupid IMs- "damn you ugly Im gonna kill you" and I reply, "Ok lets get it then", then its always, "can you help me get a gun first?" i try to help them and explain they need 50L for a DCS combat HUD and a free revolver before "killing me" but they just dont respond and end up teleporting away, i guess when they realize I'm as broke as they are /shrug
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Escaped Loon
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Join date: 30 Mar 2007
Posts: 47
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04-04-2007 08:04
From: Daisy Rimbaud You'll soon find that the quality of any item you can get for free is almost always way below that of items that you pay real L$ for. Nice I feel better now and one of the guns I bought I'm very stoked to just click on it instead chat to it to change its fire, ammo, etc. Could you elaborate somemore on the differences between free and bought items like an example of how the bought is better in whichever case? Obviously the drop down menu was worth buying for its convience but can you provide another example? From: someone you need to figure out exactly what you want to do in this game and then we can maybe send you in the right direction Yes you're right. So far figuring that part out has been the hardest part of the game for me. I came from Planetside and Star wars Galaxies but I'm not complaining about your game I like it actually, enough where I have not logged onto Sony in over a week, I just can't exactly pinpoint what it is I like about SL or what I want to do yet but yea.. I am entertained none the less.
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Kepster Cure
Paradigm Shifter
Join date: 7 Jan 2006
Posts: 198
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04-04-2007 08:05
The thing about SL is this....it takes time to develop an understanding and find your niche, that is if you are not already familiar with virtual communities. Spend more time exploring, do a search for words associated with Real life hobbies you may have in world (ctrl-f) and I'm sure you'll find others with similar interests, whatever you do, don't give up, the learning curve is steep and to find meaning is sometimes just as hard but I'm sure that with a little patience and asking around you'll find something you won't be able to let go very easily, if you'd like a tour feel free to contact me in game, I could show you a few intresting areas you might enjoy 
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Tyci Kenzo
K2 Owner and Designer
Join date: 8 Dec 2005
Posts: 285
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04-04-2007 08:11
Yes you're right. So far figuring that part out has been the hardest part of the game for me. I came from Planetside and Star wars Galaxies but I'm not complaining about your game I like it actually, enough where I have not logged onto Sony in over a week, I just can't exactly pinpoint what it is I like about SL or what I want to do yet but yea.. I am entertained none the less.[/QUOTE]
i understand completely im a eq/eq2/swg veteran i came here when the nge came out and have not left
i went to classes learned to build things and explored
i now have 8192sqm of land i rent and never enough prims for builds im workin on and for my shop and home...i host slingo and i dj
im always finding new things to learn or build or new areas to explore and things to do skydiving is a blast...love my harley...have found empty creative sims to explore and play in with friends
have a huge and awesome family
it just takes time figuring out what you want to do and then finding it
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Markubis Brentano
Hi...YAH!!
Join date: 15 Apr 2006
Posts: 836
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04-04-2007 08:13
From: Escaped Loon Nice I feel better now and one of the guns I bought I'm very stoked to just click on it instead chat to it to change its fire, ammo, etc. Could you elaborate somemore on the differences between free and bought items like an example of how the bought is better in whichever case? Obviously the drop down menu was worth buying for its convience but can you provide another example?
Yes you're right. So far figuring that part out has been the hardest part of the game for me. I came from Planetside and Star wars Galaxies but I'm not complaining about your game I like it actually, enough where I have not logged onto Sony in over a week, I just can't exactly pinpoint what it is I like about SL or what I want to do yet but yea.. I am entertained none the less. Do a search for Star Wars and you should be able to find groups taht get together. I never checked them out but I bet they have skirmishes and battles of some sort. there are entire sims set up to fight in. I believe theres an old west style sim that only allows older six shooters. Gorean sims are usually bloody areas...perhaps you'll fit in there. The cheap guns have cheap scripts with very little firepower. yes, thats correct....in "damage-enabled" sims, you can actually take poeple out with your scripted gun...so the quality guns have quality scripts and usually do th emost damage. use your search tool and start exploring this wonderful world...just try to keep your guns holsetered in non-combat sims or people will get angry. 
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Brenda Connolly
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Join date: 10 Jan 2007
Posts: 25,000
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04-04-2007 08:13
Spend it on Me! 
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Escaped Loon
Registered User
Join date: 30 Mar 2007
Posts: 47
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04-04-2007 08:17
cool thanks kep. i'm better than most noobs too i dont beg or other type of common nooberies i think the main attraction of SL to me is its easy to find players I can relate to, unlike say star wars galaxies where the only common ground is ppl who like(ed) a 30 year old half ass movie made into a failed MMORPG. from my observation so far SL is more an expression than a game which isnt exactly a bad thing. From: someone Spend it on Me! LOL- I *knew* I was setting myself up for one of these comments.
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Kitty Barnett
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Join date: 10 May 2006
Posts: 5,586
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04-04-2007 08:18
From: Escaped Loon I'm not sure excatly what weapons are for in this game yet except to get yourself reprimanded/threatened by elders for having one out. I am slowing discovering that digital dick is good but guns are a no no. I'm not sure where you went, but the primed and primmed get scolded and mocked pretty much all over  . There was a thread about this specifically two months back or so. People are more indifferent about nude newbies running around because at most they're just annoying and can easily be ignored, while most who run around pointing their gun at everything that moves are generally griefers where simply ignoring is less of an option.
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Lostmedia Ares
Drinking tea
Join date: 6 Sep 2006
Posts: 290
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04-04-2007 08:27
Invest in some building tool's both of witch you can buy or find for free . Stop camping as its a waste of time and has been proved to be more expencive to run a PC and pay for an internet connection than it is to actualy buy Linden $'s Time better spend learning a skill like building or scripting or even exploring SL is far better than sitting in a chair in a room full of zombie's that are lagging up sim's and doing nothing . the time spent learning to build will pay you back if you stick at it , Go to sandbox's and talk to people ( not with a gun in your hand  ) ask for advice on how to build , use this great forum to find tips and help on building .
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Kepster Cure
Paradigm Shifter
Join date: 7 Jan 2006
Posts: 198
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04-04-2007 08:33
From: Escaped Loon i think the main attraction of SL to me is its easy to find players I can relate to... ... from my observation so far SL is more an expression than a game which isnt exactly a bad thing.
I couldn't have put it in better words, that said, don't give up it might take some time to find what will keep you in SL but once you find it it will be unlike anything you've ever experienced. Have fun 
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Escaped Loon
Registered User
Join date: 30 Mar 2007
Posts: 47
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04-04-2007 08:37
From: Lostmedia Ares Invest in some building tool's both of witch you can buy or find for free . Stop camping as its a waste of time and has been proved to be more expencive to run a PC and pay for an internet connection than it is to actualy buy Linden $'s Time better spend learning a skill like building or scripting or even exploring SL is far better than sitting in a chair in a room full of zombie's that are lagging up sim's and doing nothing . the time spent learning to build will pay you back if you stick at it , Go to sandbox's and talk to people ( not with a gun in your hand  ) ask for advice on how to build , use this great forum to find tips and help on building . ahh.. but I found *teh uber camps* lol, and i got SO good at camping yea your right i really need to take it to the next level, well i spent some brief time modelling a zebra headband and leopord print armband for my AV but that honeymoon was, needless to say, short lived. i need to learn some script already. i take it the sandboxers are a bit more chatty than the nude campers
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Katier Reitveld
M2 News Manager
Join date: 13 Sep 2005
Posts: 412
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04-04-2007 08:43
Regarding combat. There is plenty available although most is centered around Roleplay so it's not a freeforall. Use of weapons needs a reason in such sims. Also there are weapon test sims which are generally a lot more free in theire use. Weapons in non-combat areas are annoying because they create lag and annoy people, especially as many have net's or launchers which cause nothing but grief. The cheap/free weapons are the worse for this and better quality weapons are not free. There are two types of combat in SL too. The inbuilt health meter is annoying as when you die you TP home ( thus away from the sim ) and sims need 'damage' turning on to use. The other is scripted combat systems which work a lot better and allow a lot of flexibility in how combat works. Allows spell casting and the like. These are generally thwe most common combat system but is generally used in a Roleplay Environment and as such as mentioned earlier isn't a kill for the sake of it environment. Roleplay however is a HUGE amount of fun. Because you don't TP when you die with a combat system roleplay is possible with your corpse and/or you can return to combat quickly ( if the sim allows it - normally a death is roleplayed out for a time - often 3 RL days - during which time your a ghost) As Lostmedia Ares said don't camp, waste of time and RL money. Either buy lindens or find a job or start a business. What other things to spend money on. Well if you get into Roleplay then it's well worth investing in accessories. So Skin, Clothing, attachments, combat systems ( some are free and you need the right one for the sim your in ) accessories etc. Can get yourself fun toys like vehicles, aircraft can be flown anywhere ( but it does get laggy crossing the sim boundaries ). There is also motor racing in at least one area and plenty of water to sail on. Hope that helps a little  .
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Deandra Watts
F-Bombardier
Join date: 12 Aug 2006
Posts: 485
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04-04-2007 08:59
Hiya, welcome to SL. Land of "OMG I'm busy" or "Cripes I'm bored". At least that's how I feel most days lol
Feel free to contact me in-world (once the grid's back up, that is). Typically these days I hang out on my land and am up for whatever will make me laugh for 10 minutes.
I have guns too and would happily exchange blasts-into-space for a bit til that gets boring.
There are some people I hang with I knew from awhile back/another game that are equally silly and spontaneous.
-Dea
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Colette Meiji
Registered User
Join date: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 15,556
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04-04-2007 09:01
Anyone who TRULY has Lindens burning a hole in their pocket can send them to me. Ill make sure they go to a good home. 
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Beebo Brink
Uppity Alt
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 574
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04-04-2007 09:02
If you keep thinking of SL as a game, then you're going to have trouble adjusting. It's not a game, it's a location. Like any new territory, you need to explore the landscape in order to find things to do. There are games *in* SL, so if you like to play games (violent or otherwise), then you can Search for them. But the burden is on you to find them, because they are only a small offering of what is available. And if you find that you don't have any use for some Lindens, I'd be glad to take them off your hands because there are a LOT of things on my shopping list. 
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Erin Talamasca
Registered User
Join date: 18 Sep 2005
Posts: 617
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04-04-2007 09:05
Shoes - buy shoes *nod*
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Raindrop Drinkwater
Globally Creative
Join date: 28 Jun 2006
Posts: 240
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04-04-2007 09:28
From: Erin Talamasca Shoes - buy shoes *nod* No don't do that!  They look so cute and innocent. You buy one pair -- thinking, "What the heck? One pair is nothing."... "But I need another colour... and this model would go so well with my new jeans..." Next thing you know you've got a store-full of shoes in your inventory. I don't know much about combat sims. Look for the Jesse sim, and also Rausch, I think. I also stumbled upon a damage-enabled, futuristic city one day -- I wish I remembered where it was, it looked fantastic. (It wasn't Midian City. Think Nexus, with combat).
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Hunter Stern
Web Weaver
Join date: 7 Oct 2004
Posts: 377
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04-04-2007 09:39
When I joined SL in 2004 we didn't have camping and my thought initially was that SL was to be explored completely and what better way to do it than fly. Ofcourse flying was enhanced by some uber cool wings the likes i'd never seen before. I even had a go at making and selling my own wings (before camping, we had tons of Best wing contests).
Now over time as with anything, SL changed drasticly in policy as well as culture and politics and communities. Wings by then (to me atleast) not as cool and the market was now flooded by free ones at that which are of high quality still. so that kinda put a stint in my niche because I personally didnt want to just make something that was already heavily available.
SO, I had ot find a new direction, and believe me, it's not always easy weather you're a creator or just a 'tourist' when your world is turned inside out from some perspectives.
I now have a product which I love working on and oddly it doesn't involve flying from place to place but forces the user to relearn the beauty in the 'Step', ofcourse not alot of people find beauty in spiders or arachnid based forms,lol, and you don't see a whole ton of them out there, but it's amazing at what can come about given time and creativity.
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Desmond Shang
Guvnah of Caledon
Join date: 14 Mar 2005
Posts: 5,250
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04-04-2007 10:02
So... you have reached enlightenment to the point that you realise: - money is pointless - the evils of society are merely a waste of time - and you aspire to greater things? Sir, consider me your humble student. Perhaps sharing this bit of wisdom with the rest of the grid would be a worthy goal...
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Daisy Rimbaud
Registered User
Join date: 12 Oct 2006
Posts: 764
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04-04-2007 10:08
From: Escaped Loon Could you elaborate somemore on the differences between free and bought items like an example of how the bought is better in whichever case? Obviously the drop down menu was worth buying for its convience but can you provide another example? Look at the quality of workmanship on nearly any sort of item, whether it be guns, clothes, vehicles, houses, furniture ... Look at the range of options and abilities ...
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Joie Salome
Registered User
Join date: 1 Feb 2006
Posts: 31
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04-05-2007 12:29
So Desmond...you're saying Escaped Loon is our next Yogi? I came from SWG to SL a few years ago and was bored out of my wits the first few weeks. All I saw were the sex clubs and it was boring. No interaction amongst people it seemed. In SWG and other games before that I was an avid rp'er(roleplayer) and I was very into the social interaction that comes with it. Also, I hate to admit that under my gentle exterior was a true red waiting to get out, a la UO. Here in SL I have found that the game is not something that is spoon-fed to you, you have to go out and make your OWN adventures, wether exploring sims that are created to entertain the masses like Numkulla or Lost Gardens of Apollo or just looking at the different ways groups set up sims geared towards buyers.. like Grimm Babies. I have to admit though.. shopping for shoes and clothes is an interesting past time, one that I spend hou....well a lot of time on anyway. 
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