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Walker Moore
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Join date: 14 May 2006
Posts: 1,458
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11-15-2006 14:31
From: Winter Ventura That's why you sit on the ground, or a nearby object.. or don a jetpack set on ludicrous speed.
Or better yet.. TP. Or be sitting down before the greifers get to you A good point made above about cages being used for anti-griefing purposes. I once used the psiTEC trap to isolate a newbie griefer hell-bent on wrecking somebody's business until a Linden arrived to deal with him. When he logged out, the cage remained where it was, only to locate & re-cage him when he returned to the vicinity. |
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Whitey Nabob
Registered User
Join date: 23 Dec 2005
Posts: 16
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11-17-2006 10:28
From: Walker Moore
A good point made above about cages being used for anti-griefing purposes. I once used the psiTEC trap to isolate a newbie griefer hell-bent on wrecking somebody's business until a Linden arrived to deal with him. When he logged out, the cage remained where it was, only to locate & re-cage him when he returned to the vicinity. Come to think of it. Can't he file a griefer report on you for doing that? |
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Jopsy Pendragon
Perpetual Outsider
Join date: 15 Jan 2004
Posts: 1,906
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11-17-2006 10:47
I wish it would be called the "New Feature Petition" instead.
If we can't vote against things listed there... that'd be a more apt name.
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Whitey Nabob
Registered User
Join date: 23 Dec 2005
Posts: 16
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11-20-2006 21:13
From: Jopsy Pendragon I wish it would be called the "New Feature Petition" instead.
If we can't vote against things listed there... that'd be a more apt name. Well you can only vote for it not against it yes. However the only way Lindens would consider it if enough people vote for it. So if you're against it don't vote for it. Or make a voting suggesting that one would be able to cast votes against things. |
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Yumi Murakami
DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!
Join date: 27 Sep 2005
Posts: 6,860
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11-21-2006 05:13
From: Walker Moore Obvious workarounds always prompt the creators to indulge in a little lateral thought.  The above solutions are no solution at all to the cage guns whose traps re-cage their target the moment they attempt to escape by sitting on something outside of it. Sitting is also no defence against this kind of cage gun. The psiTEC implant's trap facility uses the same idea. You can, however, wear a non-phys mover and then just fly around freely with the cage following you.  For additional fun, you can find the person who caged you and bop them with the cage. |
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Xio Jester
Killed the King.
Join date: 13 Nov 2006
Posts: 813
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11-21-2006 07:08
From: Walker Moore
A good point made above about cages being used for anti-griefing purposes. I once used the psiTEC trap to isolate a newbie griefer hell-bent on wrecking somebody's business until a Linden arrived to deal with him. When he logged out, the cage remained where it was, only to locate & re-cage him when he returned to the vicinity.
From: Whitey Nabob Come to think of it.
Can't he file a griefer report on you for doing that? Unfortunately yep, fightin back is illegal. Also, like somebody said, the newest cagers just put you back into the cage after you TP. Happened to me at YaDni's Junkyard about 2 weeks ago. Can't remember how I got out of it, but while i was caged i typed up a Report and sent it as fast as I could...the griefer got banned or somethin, and somehow I escaped the cage when they were no longer present. Unfortunately thier friend was still there (didn't know they were friends 'til after the other one got temp-baned) and that one started caging everybody they could find in a tantrum. Luckily, that day I was able to get Lindens on the scene to take care of both incidents pretty quickly.
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Mike Westerburg
Who, What, Where?
Join date: 2 May 2004
Posts: 317
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11-23-2006 23:33
From: Whitey Nabob How come we all have to suffer from griefers due to the builder of weapons alway putting a little clause "I the creator take no responsibility from the misuse of my creations."
And then they gladly make griefer wapons that attack the grid an all since the griefers will happily pay for a weapon that can cause massive havoc and ruined the fun for everyone else.
After all how much time on SL isn't lost due to grid being down due to grifers?
Lets say 100 000 people is loggen on and a griefer attack maked the grid go down an hour.
Then they effectively ruined 100 000 hours.
And the most annoying part is the weaponbuilders that make a weapon then make the only shield working against that weapon then makes a worse weapon then makes a better shield etc, milking money out of both griefers and people that want to protect themselves against griefer attacks.
Why not make the builders of weapons responsible?
If their weapon is used to attack the grid or grief let Linden Labs politely ask them to remove it from their vendor or SLExchange or SLBoutique. If they refuse or they keep selling griefer weapons?
Close their account confiscate the land they own and ban their IP for good.
Harsh?
Yes but then finally it would be less griefers since they'd need to learn scripting themselves to get griefer weapons. IRL, I own a Browning 9mm HP, and I keep a stash of Hydra-Shoc JHP by Federal along side of it. I did not build this firearm, but I know who did. I did not manufacture the ammunition for it but I know who did. Say I were to shoot someone with it on the purpose of willful intent to harm them, would you sue or blame Browning? Would you sue or blame Federal? Or would you sue and blame me? Same concept, different scenario: IRL I own a Chevrolet S-10 , I know who built it and it was not me. For example, I were to crash my S-10 into a pedestrian willfully with the intent on harming them, would you blame Chevrolet? Would you blame me? Seems that many people get things into a knot when it comes to firearms, they want to blame the creators of those firearms, but when another situation occurs that does not involve firearms, they are more than happy to blame the individual. Just as in RL, you take away an avenue of causing problems, those that wish to cause problems will find another way. Take firearms for example, sure, mandate that all firearms in the world be destroyed, but those that wish to cause trouble will do so with knives, Take knives away and they will use blunt objects (baseball bats etc), take those away and they will use sticks and stones...
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Daisy Rimbaud
Registered User
Join date: 12 Oct 2006
Posts: 764
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11-24-2006 03:06
I noticed someone on SLexchange selling a weapon that cages every avatar in an entire sim. The description ends with the line "ToS? What ToS?".
Isn't it irresponsible for SLexchange to be hosting something that is deliberately intended to flout the SL ToS?
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